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fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 15 2009 12:07 GMT
#1021
On January 15 2009 21:06 Allko wrote:
WORST day in BiSu's SC Career IMO


nah finals with mind was worest

this is WOREST DAY IN STARCRAFT HISTORY!
bisu fanboy
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
January 15 2009 12:08 GMT
#1022
A zerg which is not under pressure and can basicaly play without being harrassed is just so much stronger.

And no those two dts he invested in did not do any major damage at all. 5 lings 4 or 5 drones. That was all he killed this game in terms of economy.

I think he really really had a bad day. I dont say this as an excuse.
I mean why e.g. did he let his shuttle stand at the edge of the zerg main for 20 seconds ? Instead of flying it back to his main and trying to do some more harras with storm drops.

That was exactly the sign which made me wondering..

bisus performance today was weak. He is out of both major leagues. On the other hand he played so awesome vs Flash in GOM and in pro league. I m just in disbelief how one can be so good and so bad at the same time..

oh wellz..

the times where someone can dominate everyone ( NaDa, Oov, Boxer ) are definitely over..
hatred outlives the hateful
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 15 2009 12:08 GMT
#1023
On January 15 2009 21:05 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2009 21:04 Eternity241 wrote:
How strong is skyhigh's TvP?

it beat BeSt's PvT
and BeSt beat Flash in a full out macro war on Colosseum.

No he didn't, he beat Flash with a sweet carrier rush. It might have been the last game before he started to go fast arbiter every damn time.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 15 2009 12:08 GMT
#1024
Well I'm happy for Savior but sad for Bisu.... I was actually hoping for Savior to win first (which it happened... yay) and Bisu to lose and then Bisu to rise as second person to the 16 where Bisu and Savior meet at 8......... oh well..... crying Bisu is sad indeed...
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
January 15 2009 12:08 GMT
#1025
BTW why doesn't people understand the concept of karma? You see the misconception all the time, especially in American TV series.
-,-
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 15 2009 12:08 GMT
#1026
On January 15 2009 21:08 Fwmeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2009 21:05 MrHoon wrote:
On January 15 2009 21:04 Eternity241 wrote:
How strong is skyhigh's TvP?

it beat BeSt's PvT
and BeSt beat Flash in a full out macro war on Colosseum.

No he didn't, he beat Flash with a sweet carrier rush. It might have been the last game before he started to go fast arbiter every damn time.

oh really? I swear it was an arbitor game...
dats racist
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
January 15 2009 12:09 GMT
#1027
GOODNIGHT TL

wake up in 4 hours for class. -.- YAY

buT it was ALL worth it!
Beyond the Game
m!st
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia95 Posts
January 15 2009 12:09 GMT
#1028
Bisu doesn't consider his PvZ to be his strongest.....his PvP or PvT are easily better. his PvZ is revolutionary, and it was good because of that. all z's have now adjusted to his play style and its not revolutionary any more. he needs to revamp his PvZ and he should be fine.
His PvP is at storks level if not better
His PvT can beat top class players on balanced maps.

surgical tossssss!
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 15 2009 12:09 GMT
#1029

All you haters can die.

Thanks.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Eternity241
Profile Joined April 2008
Australia342 Posts
January 15 2009 12:11 GMT
#1030
Either way, I haven't seen bisu play many PvT's recently so I don't know skyhigh's chances against him. However, the games tonight may affect his confidence going into Gom. Here's hoping that Bisu retains his stature as one of the best PvT players around and plays well against Skyhigh.

I'm going to sleep, goodnight guys, good games today.
Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
January 15 2009 12:11 GMT
#1031
Winning every game in proleague dosen't matter. But Bisu lost at the most important games of the season. He was overrated all the way because the players are more motivated and serious in OSL/MSL than in proleague. Thats why u see different special builds and performance. .
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
January 15 2009 12:11 GMT
#1032
On January 15 2009 21:08 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
[...]
the times where someone can dominate everyone ( NaDa, Oov, Boxer ) are definitely over..

u obviously didnt take savior and his destroying of everyone in 2009 in account
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 15 2009 12:12 GMT
#1033
man are CJ fans and SKT fans going to trade roles now?
dats racist
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-15 12:15:30
January 15 2009 12:12 GMT
#1034
Oh, Bisu. This is what you get for fucking up the groups and making us watch a whole group full of mediocre terrans, a bunch of ZvZs, and a group with 3 of the top players.

Btw, and this is just speculation, but perhaps Bisu made a mistake in choosing 3 zergs. It seems that both Zero and Magma were quite prepared, and both played extremely well against him. Zero especially was very impressive because his ZvP was considered pretty mediocre. I can only imagine that because ZvZ is so mechanics based and luck-based(Jaedong notwithstanding), all zergs in the group spent a lot of time preparing for Bisu, and countered his builds very well.

Edit: I hope MBC wasn't planning on using that Bisu intro for the entire group stage. Otherwise they'd have to find a new intro pretty soon.
Meh
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51638 Posts
January 15 2009 12:12 GMT
#1035
On January 15 2009 21:09 m!st wrote:
Bisu doesn't consider his PvZ to be his strongest.....his PvP or PvT are easily better. his PvZ is revolutionary, and it was good because of that. all z's have now adjusted to his play style and its not revolutionary any more. he needs to revamp his PvZ and he should be fine.
His PvP is at storks level if not better
His PvT can beat top class players on balanced maps.



Then why did he force himself into a group with three zergs when he had the opportunity to change it around?
It's obviously shouted by Bisu 'hey, my PvZ owns all'.

Clearly, tonight it didn't.
Commentator
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 15 2009 12:12 GMT
#1036
I don't really think Bisu is down and out... he played really well against Magma (minus losing some early corsairs), and I'm pretty sure no other Protoss would have won that game. He had a bad game against Zero yeah. Not sure about the game against Savior since I didn't watch it (I managed to start watching after it was over -.-). Anyways, point being, he's still mechanically sound whereas last time he slumped he wasn't.

If anything, I expect him to dominate GOM and proleague now, since he has nothing else to do.
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 15 2009 12:14 GMT
#1037
On January 15 2009 21:08 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2009 21:08 Fwmeh wrote:
On January 15 2009 21:05 MrHoon wrote:
On January 15 2009 21:04 Eternity241 wrote:
How strong is skyhigh's TvP?

it beat BeSt's PvT
and BeSt beat Flash in a full out macro war on Colosseum.

No he didn't, he beat Flash with a sweet carrier rush. It might have been the last game before he started to go fast arbiter every damn time.

oh really? I swear it was an arbitor game...

Well, all his other games are so I guess it is easy to mix up. But that game was a two base carrier rush, with Flash not scouting, and then scanning the wrong main, possibly due to seeing Bests goons coming from that angle.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
m!st
Profile Joined January 2009
Australia95 Posts
January 15 2009 12:15 GMT
#1038
His PvZ is good, theres no doubt in that. but he keeps going for the zeal archon build. and players are just developing good timing pushes against it.\
and u cant say bisu was playing at his best tonight.

-Losing first 2 corsairs because they were sitting still, which would have helped him deal with the muta....

I don't think he will slump but his confidence against Z's has been bad since by.hero. he lost those games and hasn't played a good pvz since[he hasn't played many though]
surgical tossssss!
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-15 12:23:12
January 15 2009 12:15 GMT
#1039
VOD is up

+ Show Spoiler +
1-15 Lost Saga MSL 2009 32强A组最终战:Bisu vs Zero
1-15 Lost Saga MSL 2009 32强A组:Bisu vs maGma
1-15 Lost Saga MSL 2009 32强A组:sAviOr vs Zero
1-15 Lost Saga MSL 2009 32强A组:maGma vs Zero
1-15 Lost Saga MSL 2009 32强A组:Bisu vs sAviOr
Allko
Profile Joined February 2004
China297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-15 12:20:00
January 15 2009 12:16 GMT
#1040
On January 15 2009 21:07 fearus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2009 21:06 Allko wrote:
WORST day in BiSu's SC Career IMO


nah finals with mind was worest

this is WOREST DAY IN STARCRAFT HISTORY!


hmmm... you are a loyal fan of BiSu.
btw you got a wrong worest
Stop Playing God
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