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On January 01 2009 22:26 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2009 22:24 Shikyo wrote:On January 01 2009 22:23 fonger wrote: Can anyone confirm that Nony actually knew about Super's expansion on the hill right outside his main? It really looked like he didn't to me. You guys have bad understanding of the game if you think he didn't know about it... Yeah :/ But if he knew about it some things he did didn't make sense to me. But you're at least 500 times better than me so yeah.
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same problem here.. i only have audio at the moment
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But we have to agree that Super was very successful with his harassment. The harassment made Nony lost his focus and screwed
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the first VLC stream ending in 6 has video, the 7 stream is the one that is only audio for me
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where is the video
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On January 01 2009 22:26 Shauni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2009 22:24 Shikyo wrote:On January 01 2009 22:23 fonger wrote: Can anyone confirm that Nony actually knew about Super's expansion on the hill right outside his main? It really looked like he didn't to me. You guys have bad understanding of the game if you think he didn't know about it... But us newbies will go ahead and discuss it anyway thanks. If you're going to be a dipshit, at least be an informative dipshit and enlighten us on where we went wrong.
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I've got both using... the 6 one.
Edit: At least until it died.
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Stream not working at all atm T_T
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On January 01 2009 22:22 Pioneer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2009 22:19 Sanity. wrote:On January 01 2009 22:16 Pioneer wrote: Kinda funny that Super barely won on a massively favored Terran map after the Chinese were bashing NonY. actually it was played on Athena2 i believe, which is more balanced.... 6-4 PvT.... super just played extremely well The only difference between Athena 1 and Athena 2 is there is 1 less mineral patch at the natural on 2 but the real reason why Athena is a bitch is the massive amount of buildable terrain and the cliff expos which allow the Terran to have a massive upper ground advantage while pushing. Edit: Oh the removed the gas from the cliff expos. eh its because the ramps are wider on the middle expos, which actually lets toss attack expos and or pushes using the high ground. and the gas you mentioned.
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As others mentioned, once Nony failed to do anything with the reaver, it was going to be an uphill battle. Still, Nony did have an opportunity to secure a better position. The recall to Super's main was a bad decision; he should have bolstered his army/economy a bit and then completely break the central contain. Also, recalling into a terran's main usually seems dubious to me. Chances are that there will be mines and tanks nearby or just coming out factories which can easily thwart such an attack.
Upgrades, get them! Nony dealt with harassment pretty poorly, especially at bottom right. It looks like he still has trouble with unit management and determining the correct time/place to attack.
After breaking out of the initial push/contain by Super, Nony could have opted for a longer game. He had a loose control of the map and could have given himself more time for his economy to catch up.
Don't mean it to sound like a put down, just what I saw/thought. Always easier to critique from the sidelines.
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On January 01 2009 22:33 fonger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2009 22:26 Shauni wrote:On January 01 2009 22:24 Shikyo wrote:On January 01 2009 22:23 fonger wrote: Can anyone confirm that Nony actually knew about Super's expansion on the hill right outside his main? It really looked like he didn't to me. You guys have bad understanding of the game if you think he didn't know about it... But us newbies will go ahead and discuss it anyway thanks. If you're going to be a dipshit, at least be an informative dipshit and enlighten us on where we went wrong.
Since Terran always expand there first when he does the mid game push toward P main, there was no way Nony didn't know about it. Yes, he might have had a 'chance' to attack it while Super was busy defending recall/other expos... but Nony couldn't have done much more than he did with his army. If he would have tried to attack that high ground expo (which I don't think would have succeeded), Supers other expansions would have went up, I believe Nony just wanted to keep him on 3 bases against his 4.
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Thank you ! working like a charm for me
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nvm, nony played already lol
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looks like Super has the upper hand here, but its fairly hard to tell
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I guess it's kkong from MBC
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