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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
November 27 2008 23:13 GMT
#401
poor pusan =(
manner
sillyboy_tomato
Profile Joined July 2008
United States157 Posts
November 27 2008 23:18 GMT
#402
omg best, what?!?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 28 2008 01:04 GMT
#403
FUCKING BESTGOD DIE IN A FIRE
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traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
November 28 2008 01:10 GMT
#404
On November 28 2008 01:00 Velr wrote:
Are there actually people that play better when televised? You allwas here from people that choke on TV but for some reason.. i mean.. there are people that love it, aren't there?


I know from my old Lan days that i loved it to play when some people watch (well... 5-15 was the maximum i could achieve and half of them i would classify as friends).

i don't think it's people play better, it's just that some people can't play their best when there's pressure. because you get caught up in the moment, think about things you shouldn't, which takes away brain power from things you could be thinking about in game
ASAzerg
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada33 Posts
November 28 2008 01:37 GMT
#405
On November 27 2008 19:03 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 18:48 ASAzerg wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:40 IdrA wrote:
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.


Wow, I want to see the replay.

On a side note, is it just bad luck that you have to face July in the very first match of MSL prelims?

only in part
all the groups are seeded and i am in the most recent round of draftees, we were all matched up against the highest ranked kespa players.


I just saw the replay of game 1 and you did well with the timing push, forcing July to turtle at his base for some time.

Wow, so new progamers would have to take down veterans who have probably won multiple titles in their first match? Tough system.
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
November 28 2008 01:46 GMT
#406
No one said it was going to be easy.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 28 2008 02:31 GMT
#407
On November 28 2008 10:37 ASAzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 19:03 IdrA wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:48 ASAzerg wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:40 IdrA wrote:
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.


Wow, I want to see the replay.

On a side note, is it just bad luck that you have to face July in the very first match of MSL prelims?

only in part
all the groups are seeded and i am in the most recent round of draftees, we were all matched up against the highest ranked kespa players.


I just saw the replay of game 1 and you did well with the timing push, forcing July to turtle at his base for some time.

Wow, so new progamers would have to take down veterans who have probably won multiple titles in their first match? Tough system.

That's how it goes in every seeding system. It wouldn't be fair if Bisu and Jaedong had to play in the first match.
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anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
November 28 2008 05:55 GMT
#408
When i saw the vod just randomly checking baezzi it caught me off guard to see idra vs. july... Idra you did very well, July's building placement is so good and just his senses and everything. but you're definitely getting better, i got faith in you.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
November 28 2008 06:04 GMT
#409
On November 28 2008 10:37 ASAzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2008 19:03 IdrA wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:48 ASAzerg wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:40 IdrA wrote:
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.


Wow, I want to see the replay.

On a side note, is it just bad luck that you have to face July in the very first match of MSL prelims?

only in part
all the groups are seeded and i am in the most recent round of draftees, we were all matched up against the highest ranked kespa players.


I just saw the replay of game 1 and you did well with the timing push, forcing July to turtle at his base for some time.

Wow, so new progamers would have to take down veterans who have probably won multiple titles in their first match? Tough system.

well every group has a seed, although some arent as good as others, so anyone has to take down one of the high ranked players (assuming they arent one themselves) to pass. its just a matter of how quick you meet them.
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
November 28 2008 06:36 GMT
#410
On November 28 2008 15:04 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2008 10:37 ASAzerg wrote:
On November 27 2008 19:03 IdrA wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:48 ASAzerg wrote:
On November 27 2008 18:40 IdrA wrote:
first game on destination i did a one base build, lifted fac outside my base and made 2 vultures, he was ready for them they didnt really do anything. went fast vessel and he went 2 hatch muta, had irad by the time his mutas were there and fended them off without taking any damage, most of his mutas were hurt badly or killed by 2 irads. went to attack his 3rd base with mm/vessel, he had lurkers out. attacked and killed 2 or 3 and had to pull back with lings coming in, first tanks out and moved to push again. did ok and had a nice marine spread but he had too much shit. he got his 3rd hatch faster than my practice partners did, sacrificed muta timing for it. allowed him to have enough lurker ling to break me.

on medusa i 14 cc'd and he opened 2 hatch lurker, killed temples. i saw it coming and made 2 (or 3? i forget) bunkers behind my main + 2 in front, expecting a lurker ling allin. he just contained with 3 lurkers and went 2 hatch muta which i didnt scout. killed a decent number of scv marine and by the time i stabilized and had a vessel he had guardians out. i think it was an allin, 2 base the whole time, but i wasnt able to scout every expo so he may have hidden one.


Wow, I want to see the replay.

On a side note, is it just bad luck that you have to face July in the very first match of MSL prelims?

only in part
all the groups are seeded and i am in the most recent round of draftees, we were all matched up against the highest ranked kespa players.


I just saw the replay of game 1 and you did well with the timing push, forcing July to turtle at his base for some time.

Wow, so new progamers would have to take down veterans who have probably won multiple titles in their first match? Tough system.

well every group has a seed, although some arent as good as others, so anyone has to take down one of the high ranked players (assuming they arent one themselves) to pass. its just a matter of how quick you meet them.

Unless someone beats the seed and loses later, like who Best lost too.
Jaedong
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36392 Posts
November 28 2008 07:01 GMT
#411
fuck, effort lost in group finals against bestgod

damnit
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
November 28 2008 07:29 GMT
#412
Nice played idra, very nice control and macro.

When i look at the WCG games(grand finals koreans vs foreigners) i laugh at the rape but here it was actually a decent fight although i could see skilldifference which is ofcourse understandable.

nice to see that you improve over there! fighting!!
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 28 2008 08:11 GMT
#413
Man I am so happy so many good zerg players passed (fuck yeah lux)
dats racist
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 28 2008 08:23 GMT
#414
Man, best. Pvp is supposed to be your mu. Oh well, pretty tough.
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 28 2008 08:30 GMT
#415
Any source for vods ? :o...
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
nihil2501
Profile Joined October 2008
United States142 Posts
November 28 2008 08:44 GMT
#416
On November 28 2008 17:30 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Any source for vods ? :o...

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Jon747&view=videos
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 28 2008 09:11 GMT
#417
Wow so many no-name upsets... I'm look at some of these results thinking WTF.
Graphics
DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
November 28 2008 09:13 GMT
#418
ROFL bestgod > effort saint > bestgod SAINT > EFFORT??
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
November 28 2008 09:18 GMT
#419
One of the main reasons why i dont watch and follow the pro scene as much as i used too
The amount of newcomers appearing was overwhelming. I dont mind upsets like when bisu beat boxer when he first appeared but i really hate when no names like shinhwa win and than disappear and suck.

by who? by what? I barely recognize any of these guys' names
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-28 11:09:19
November 28 2008 11:01 GMT
#420
Personally I think the change is pretty glacial. It's pretty rare where one of them just qualifies out of nowhere... and usually they get your attention if they do. I mean, out of those who actually qualified, the only one that I don't really know is Horang, and I remember his name for something from last season's qualifiers. Players like Skyhigh and By.Baby qualified last season, and they've had enough exposure so most people know who they are now.

Upsets happen all the time, but that's just the nature of it. Also, Shinhwa isn't exactly an unknown... he played 2v2s on Lecaf a ton the past few seasons.
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