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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 08 2008 06:31 GMT
#461
On November 08 2008 15:23 mog87 wrote:
Id free is the favorite to win the MSL at this point carrying so much momentum, but since its PvP i guess Bisu would be the overall favorite. Basically the winner is likely free or Bisu. Gah pvp finals...damn stork..if only forgg was still in, and forgg vs kal 2 would have been great to watch.


I think that bisu is ready for another one. He's been showing some amazing for pvt, and he's on like an 11-0 streak? i think that he's ready to keep his win's rolling. He had his killer face on after destroying fbh.
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ForVengeance
Profile Joined August 2008
United States111 Posts
November 08 2008 06:32 GMT
#462
[/QUOTE]
the old players are just too focused on their own old style and cant adapt with the younger players who have more time and motivation and havent been worked to death by their coaches. the old players have seen everything what the starcraft industry has to offer, but the younger ones have so much hope that they will win big money and get on the next cover page of starcraft magazine. [/QUOTE]

Well, if i had to choose between vagina and starcraft id choose vagina twice.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
November 08 2008 06:32 GMT
#463
Nada =(
Xellos <3
Plutonium
Profile Joined November 2007
United States2217 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 06:34:09
November 08 2008 06:32 GMT
#464
I can't remember the last time a protoss lost in a strait-up TvP with no cheese or risky play.

Well, Daezang excluded.
And Fantasy v. Stork Game 4 doesn't count, because stork went 1-base reaver.
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
November 08 2008 06:33 GMT
#465
On November 08 2008 15:29 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2008 15:27 ahole-surprise wrote:
On November 08 2008 15:24 .risingdragoon wrote:
On November 08 2008 15:21 Plutonium wrote:
These games pissed me off, because all they did was display how protoss is just easier to play than terran.


did you watch the games at all?

free outplayed nada every game, he 1a2a3a last game cus he outmacroed nada 3x times worth


Did you miss the part where he proxy gate + zealot rushed? Oh man it sure takes skill to micro zealots against lone marines.

Or how about not even suspecting a 2 factory and still owning it because you had a reaver?



His reaver micro was super good that game. I'm sad that they didn't show a replay. The observer moved away, and when we looked back at where there were two full health tanks and 5 marines, there were 2 half health tanks, and a reaver in the shuttle.


It was one reaver shot that killed all the marines and hurt the tanks, if he didnt do it the first time, most likely the reaver wouldve slowly picked shit off regardless. Yeah, that one reaver shot was good, but what else did Free do that game? Totally misread what Nada was doing? Let vultures kill a bunch of probes despite having dragoons and Obs? Then he just flies his reaver around and then A-moves his dragoons into his tanks, rinse and repeat. That's where it really feels like Protoss is easy.
Pulp can move, baby!
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 06:34:10
November 08 2008 06:33 GMT
#466
On November 08 2008 15:32 Plutonium wrote:
I can't remember the last time a protoss lost in a strait-up TvP with no cheese or risky play.

Well, Daezang excluded.

Check out Flash.
And don't say Flash excluded because you could just exclude everyone who won. Then your point would be right.
This BSing about how protoss in imba is stupid and annoying.
Jaedong
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 08 2008 06:34 GMT
#467
On November 08 2008 15:28 x89titan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2008 15:22 Dante08 wrote:
On November 08 2008 15:20 StRyKeR wrote:
old timers can't keep up with new macro / prepared assassin-style strategies


july anyone?

the old players are just too focused on their own old style and cant adapt with the younger players who have more time and motivation and havent been worked to death by their coaches. the old players have seen everything what the starcraft industry has to offer, but the younger ones have so much hope that they will win big money and get on the next cover page of starcraft magazine.


I'm not sure that this is true. We saw boxer try to innovate with valks, we saw oov innovate through fantasy with his mech build. Nada has just been consistent because his team needs him to play, so he hasn't really had time to just sit, think, and innovate. Oov had time to do that, and we saw it in fantasy's play. Nada is so focused on making sure his team is doing well that he's forced to rely on sort of generic play.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 08 2008 06:35 GMT
#468
On November 08 2008 15:32 Plutonium wrote:
I can't remember the last time a protoss lost in a strait-up TvP with no cheese or risky play.

Well, Daezang excluded.
And Fantasy v. Stork Game 4 doesn't count, because stork went 1-base reaver.


1 base reaver is fairly standard, especially on plasma/semi island maps. It was fantasy's play that was amazing.

What about game three, just to go with the most recent, famous tvp's (i guess that means we're excluding proleague ><;
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ForVengeance
Profile Joined August 2008
United States111 Posts
November 08 2008 06:36 GMT
#469
The point is i dont blame the older players for caring a little less. Theyve already hit home runs in the world series. Winning is always great and no one wants to decline, but man people move on. Not only do they move on by choice, they move on in their soul whether they like it or not. People change inside. And i dont blame anyone for that. And i certainly dont give undue credit to "younger players" just cause they have no lives and all the time in the world.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 06:42:26
November 08 2008 06:36 GMT
#470
lordy the lamentation of the nada women sure are loud

look again, it's no accident free beat nada, he just lost 0-3 that makes him 0-4 vs free in this msl alone

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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
November 08 2008 06:37 GMT
#471
On November 08 2008 15:30 waterGHOSTCLAWdragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2008 15:29 Dante08 wrote:
Did anyone see the poster they showed after the game? It was free Kal Bisu jangbi standing together LOL


They were probably looking at eachother going: wait, we need to play eachother? wtf.


Nono you know the intro they play, then at the end all the progamers standing together, kal jangbi bisu and free were coincidentally standing next to each other lol
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-08 06:40:58
November 08 2008 06:40 GMT
#472
nada hype thread without free hype thread
+
nada 3-2 predictions
=
free 3-0 ez

go freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
Taek Bang Fighting!
ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
November 08 2008 06:42 GMT
#473
Well I never cared about either of these players but this series did confirm for me that Protoss is a gay easy race.
I'm done with this MSL.
Pulp can move, baby!
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 08 2008 06:45 GMT
#474
omg what?? its over already? godamn nada

Now MSL is less interesting with four protosses.
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Wasabi
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States3085 Posts
November 08 2008 06:46 GMT
#475
--- Nuked ---
DIMJkE
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Bulgaria425 Posts
November 08 2008 06:47 GMT
#476
This MSL has turned into (P)BeSt's wet dream. Should have qualified buddy...
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 08 2008 06:47 GMT
#477
On November 08 2008 15:45 clazziquai wrote:
omg what?? its over already? godamn nada

Now MSL is less interesting with four protosses.


Legend of the fall + nada didn't play very well= 4 toss semifinal. Lame.
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yoofor
Profile Joined December 2007
United States143 Posts
November 08 2008 06:48 GMT
#478
every single quater-final game was won by a protoss

what the hell is wrong with this world?

where is all the zergs?
strongwind
Profile Joined July 2007
United States862 Posts
November 08 2008 06:54 GMT
#479
amazing how the PvZ and the two PvT quarters have been 3-0 rapes.

someone start the "P is imba" threads! =D
Taek Bang Fighting!
dongfeng
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
731 Posts
November 08 2008 06:55 GMT
#480
im not a protoss lover myself but u cant deny free's skill in all 3 games
granted nada wasnt playing anywhere near his best
u guys break up a ramp with 4/5 rines, vult tank with 4 goons and have no losses, then u can say protoss ez

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