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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
On October 11 2008 11:20 GGQ wrote: GGPlay can beat Stork, if Stork beats BeSt yeah I also think GGPlay would be the favorite against Stork, despite the maps. He would have a really hard time against Best though. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States8197 Posts
On October 11 2008 10:10 Wolverine wrote: lol, maybe he was good then but who cares? His games recently are super boring rapes. He got demolished by BeSt in group stages, barely beat Light in a pathetic game on Medusa, got manhandled by Flash in the last OSL so bad it didn't even look like GGPlay was trying, played an hour long ZvP with Stork that was godawful and he lost... I'm happy to see a TvZ semi and I hope it's interesting but I think GGPlay is gonna get rolled like he should have in the group stages... :/. If Fantasy can't do it (and he probably will) then BeSt defintely will. And if it's GGPlay v Stork then LOL, that is going to be a boring final for sure. At least it won't be 3-0 though. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On October 11 2008 11:22 damenmofa wrote: yeah I also think GGPlay would be the favorite against Stork, despite the maps. He would have a really hard time against Best though. Stork's PvZ>Best's PvZ | ||
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FConnectionUK
United States316 Posts
GGPlay > Stork not because of skill but just because... GGplay is like what Firebathero is to Savior. GGplay is Stork's one of the very few opponent/nemesis who has significant winning percentage. In the group selection Stork clearly mentioned that he didn't want to play GGplay in the same group. Edit: just used the TLPD and the stats were 5:1 favoring GGPlay. And the last one loss is from an hour ++ long game where Stork just BARELY won. | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On October 11 2008 09:01 Wolverine wrote: WOW. You have never seen the GGPlay vs Iris finals. You are an idiot. Seconded. Flash lost and his TvZ isn't as good as you think it is. Deal with it. GGPlay pulls out many epic TvZ games, I'm looking forward to him playing Fantasy although I think the maps will be too much in Fantasy's favor for him to win. | ||
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Loveletter
United States543 Posts
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iPF[Div]
Spain572 Posts
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Nick_54
United States2230 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
although another silver for stork would be insane | ||
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MistBurN
Korea (South)9 Posts
On October 11 2008 12:40 FConnectionUK wrote: GGPlay > Stork not because of skill but just because... GGplay is like what Firebathero is to Savior. GGplay is Stork's one of the very few opponent/nemesis who has significant winning percentage. In the group selection Stork clearly mentioned that he didn't want to play GGplay in the same group. Edit: just used the TLPD and the stats were 5:1 favoring GGPlay. And the last one loss is from an hour ++ long game where Stork just BARELY won. Not Barely won....Stork raped GGPlay... | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
And you noobs should try fighting uphill battles to see how hard it is before saying he screwed up. But i do however believe he would have won this game had he made one or two observers and succesfully sniped stork's. Not having complete vision uphill made him lose most of those battles. He didn't have vision of storks reavers, and stork had maphack basically. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On October 15 2008 21:20 LaLuSh wrote: Everyone dissing bisu for fighting uphill, what the hell else could he have done? That's the only way to break out into the middle. And you noobs should try fighting uphill battles to see how hard it is before saying he screwed up. But i do however believe he would have won this game had he made one or two observers and succesfully sniped stork's. Not having complete vision uphill made him lose most of those battles. He didn't have vision of storks reavers, and stork had maphack basically. Or maybe, just maybe, he shouldn't have abandoned the high ground in the first place. As in, camping below Stork's ramp and/or falling back to exp, then running back fighting uphill. Had he maintained the high ground position after taking the exp down, I think he'd be hard pressed to screw the match up from that point. Then again, don't underestimate Bisu's capability to trip over himself. | ||
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mSLeGenD
115 Posts
You clearly have not seen that rep -__- If I'm not mistaken, it's the one on Gaia from WCG 2005 I think? Epic game. | ||
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Simplistik
2173 Posts
It's this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/9525_GGPlay_vs_Stork | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On October 11 2008 11:44 Vasoline73 wrote: lol, maybe he was good then but who cares? His games recently are super boring rapes. He got demolished by BeSt in group stages, barely beat Light in a pathetic game on Medusa, got manhandled by Flash in the last OSL so bad it didn't even look like GGPlay was trying, played an hour long ZvP with Stork that was godawful and he lost... I'm happy to see a TvZ semi and I hope it's interesting but I think GGPlay is gonna get rolled like he should have in the group stages... :/. If Fantasy can't do it (and he probably will) then BeSt defintely will. And if it's GGPlay v Stork then LOL, that is going to be a boring final for sure. At least it won't be 3-0 though. You really should check your facts, GGPlay is 2-0 vs flash in BoX, 3-2 in Daum Semis (going on to win the whole thing) and 2-1 this season in Incruit Ro8 You clearly don't understand how Zerg players work if you think GGPlay "maybe was good" but then who cares. July is the same way, they are streaky players who get hot for one league. If they are "hot" then they are super entertaining and awesome to watch. I think GGPlay is going to beat Fantasy and then beat Best or Stork. | ||
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Vasoline73
United States8197 Posts
On October 16 2008 02:17 Hot_Bid wrote: You really should check your facts, GGPlay is 2-0 vs flash in BoX, 3-2 in Daum Semis (going on to win the whole thing) and 2-1 this season in Incruit Ro8 You clearly don't understand how Zerg players work if you think GGPlay "maybe was good" but then who cares. July is the same way, they are streaky players who get hot for one league. If they are "hot" then they are super entertaining and awesome to watch. I think GGPlay is going to beat Fantasy and then beat Best or Stork. I don't know what facts I would have to check, I never said that Flash has a winning record vs GGPlay or that GGPlay didn't win Daum or something. If you mean what I said by "got manhandled by Flash in the last OSL" I mean EVER08 not Daum. I just mean now the guy seems awful to me. At least July had some convincing games last season when he won. If they are "hot" then they are super entertaining and awesome to watch This is where we are disagreeing about GGPlay... what game from this OSL by him has been super entertaining? He got walked over by BeSt, literally walked over... GGPlay didn't do anything in that game. All he did was build lings and lose. He beat Light in IMO one of the most poorly executed 1 base builds I've seen recently by a Terran player... that game was pretty awful. He beat Rock in a game I didn't watch... but I seriously doubt it was anything more than Rock failing harder than GGPlay could fail. The only 2 games I'd give GGPlay credit for are games 1 and 2 of the series v Flash. Game 1 he executed the perfect counter to Flash's mech build, and game, 2 besides his failed all in, was pretty entertaining from both sides. Game 3 he got lucky. And luck is obviously a part of Starcraft, but I think it would be a hard argument to say GGPlay would have won game 3 without that mine drag.... The only argument I think besides luck that makes sense for game 3 is that Flash lost the game more than GGPlay won it... which I would agree with. GGPlay still has time to show some cool, exciting play, but I haven't seen anything from him that impresses this OSL. All I'm complaining about is that it seems like he just got a lucky game 3 and everyone is ready to put him at #5 on the powerrank, like his skills are suddenly top tier...which I don't agree with. All my opinion of course. | ||
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Wolverine
138 Posts
On October 16 2008 05:22 Vasoline73 wrote: I don't know what facts I would have to check, I never said that Flash has a winning record vs GGPlay or that GGPlay didn't win Daum or something. If you mean what I said by "got manhandled by Flash in the last OSL" I mean EVER08 not Daum. The only 2 games I'd give GGPlay credit for are games 1 and 2 of the series v Flash. Game 1 he executed the perfect counter to Flash's mech build, and game, 2 besides his failed all in, was pretty entertaining from both sides. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH ETC. All I'm complaining about is that it seems like he just got a lucky game 3 and everyone is ready to put him at #5 on the powerrank, like his skills are suddenly top tier...which I don't agree with. Hi. Have you seen the GGPlay vs Iris finals? If not stop posting now. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On October 10 2008 18:32 motbob wrote: I was just about to say that. Flash might lose 2-0 and he might win 2-1 but he definitely won't lose 2-1. And look what happened. | ||
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