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Incruit OnGameNet Starleague 2008 Round of 36 Group D
Best of 3, Map list;
Plasma
Return of the King
Andromeda
Hwasin vs Thezerg
Rumble vs Winner of the above match.
Its starting and there wasn't a thread. If somebody can make one that looks better please do. I just thought there had to be one
Predictions
+ Show Spoiler + Hwasin 2-0 TheZerg and then Rumble 2-1 Hwasin
Results
+ Show Spoiler +Thezerg > hwasin (1st ZvT win on plasma I believe
TheZerg > hwasin Thezerg wins 2/0. Both game recommended for ZvT crush style
TheZerg > rumble 1/0
Rumble > Thezerg (B.O Win)
TheZerg > rumble (rumble threw away a 20 supply muta lead with completely scared starcraft .. TheZergs mutamicro was obviously superior at all times
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Hwasin TvZ is always awesome to watch!
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You can simply take banner from previous topics 
Anyway, Daum is showing this, and suprise! no lag.
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hwasin's TvZ is art, and I really don't want to see rumble in the next OSL
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Hwasin should own this up.
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On August 11 2008 18:34 sztuczyn wrote:You can simply take banner from previous topics Anyway, Daum is showing this, and suprise! no lag.
Okay I'll do it. I was thinking about it but ... it seemed dishonest t.t
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I don't think Hwasin could really have asked for a more favourable group : S
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Hwasin looks bored, he is not happy with his opponents.
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Hwasin is a bitch...... jk .... about him beating TheZerg .... RED SNIPER PEE YEW ... no PEW PEW for you buddy .... Hive time bitch.
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Thezerg's Kespa rank is 100th, wow. 
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Hwasin 7
Thezerg 3
Both players mining stuff.
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2 port wraith from Hwasin
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Thezerg is going 12 pool 11 gas, hwasin 12 Rax-Gas, probably 2 Port wraith vs some awkward 1 Hatch muta.
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Finally a map where Hwasin cant do 1 rax cc..
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Reduces initial muta/scourge count by killing larvae with a vult
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Spire is going up, 2 Port is going down, hwasin has a vulture harrasing Thezerg's nat, and kills a larva
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Jung Young Chul Fighting!
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First wraith is harrassing overlord, got one and forced back due to scourge.
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Looks like 2 control groups of mutas going into hwasin's main.
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Hwasin's cc is killed and many wraiths lost
Meanwhile, thezerg is going up to 5 hatch 3 base.
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Thezerg is massing mutas, hwasin is massing wraiths and cloak is done, hwasin expands.
Looks like i'm fucking behind. 
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Lurkers coming
Hwasin's expo is back up.
I see gg coming as lurkers roll into hwasin's base
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Mutas are owning Hwasins nat cc! Hwasin is in HUGE trouble.
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hwasin looks terrible with black hair
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Muta harass brings hwasin's army completely out of position, lurks burrowed at the raxes.
Hwasin going waiting for the perfect time to attack?
Attacks and fails miserably
gg
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Hwasin is tring to attack but he's got owned badly and types out.
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LOL -> that was the dancing queen (performed by hydras?!?) L:>>>>>
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lol, hwasin owned.. That was strange feeling tbh
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On August 11 2008 18:53 Kyuki wrote:lol, hwasin owned.. That was strange feeling tbh
yeah i didn't really get that game. why didn't hwasin do more with his wraiths? he killed like 2 overlords and some drones and then got owned by a shitload of mutalisks
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Brilliant strategy by Thezerg, fast lair with overlord speed and quick lurkers, i like it.
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Finally a zerg that doesnt look helpless against the wraiths on this map.
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muta + queen(ensnare) is the perfect deflection of wraiths imho
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You have to wonder if rumble is trying to rethink his strategy after watching hwasin get destroyed.
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bad loss for a very good tvz map, idk what hwasins build was but it didnt work to well
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Its really not a very good TvZ map i dont think, its really been the wraiths only so far.
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On August 11 2008 18:56 Tinithor wrote:
Finally a zerg that doesnt look helpless against the wraiths on this map.
The problem is his build is only good vs wraith ....
If quick muta is zergs only build on the map , then terran can abuse them with standard macro play.
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TheZerg looks like a small evil cartoon hero <3
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On August 11 2008 19:00 radadaundandan wrote:
TheZerg looks like a small evil cartoon hero <3
Indeed.
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On August 11 2008 18:59 Tinithor wrote:
Its really not a very good TvZ map i dont think, its really been the wraiths only so far.
That map is zerg hell ZvT.... once the season kicks in zerg will get crushed....
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2 rax acad vs 2 hatch lair
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Hwasin 2
Thezerg 8
Cross positions, both players mining yo.
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Hwasin doesn't seem very confident I think. TheZerg is quite emotionless reminds me of xellos :>
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TheZerg is going two hatcheries lurk while Hwasins opts for two rax timing rush.
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I really don't see whats wrong with the map for ZvT, Muta harras can be devastating, lurkers own those small chokes, you can expo all over the map in relative safety...
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Thezerg is doing some awkward drone dance before he makes his hatch, hwasin 2 raxes.
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thezerg scouts the rush far enough away that he can get 2 sunks up barely in time
counter fails because of a firebat at ramp and both players are armyless.
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damn hwasin that was bad...
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LOL at TheZerg holding this attack some nice micro really
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Thezerg has no hydras but owned all of hwasins army, hwasin builds 3rd rax and a factory.
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hwasin's expo going up as well as a sci facility
going to have 3 tanks by the time the first vessel pops
thezerg at 3 gas before hwasin gets his expo.
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Hwasin sieging many many times, thezerg's army might be too big by the time he gets to his base.
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Massive flank destroys hwasin's army
next army taken out too.
defilers out soon.
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Thezerg is playing great, owned all of hwains army and will have defilers.
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Sound like Hwasin is going to lose :|
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Who is that guy for real? LOL
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hwasin, many minerals, very bad
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Hwasin is definitely going to lose, he's getting completely outmacroed and is now cornered in his base more or less
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this zerg is pretty good
GO ZERGIE!
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man thezerg is playing really well. isn't he an mbc 2v2 player?
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Hwasin is getting owned and owned, he is stuck in his base.
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gg
100% deserved win.
Hwasin played well, but thezerg just played better.
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His first push with 3 tanks was his only chance, that flank played him.
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Guarantee that no one predicted those results. Anyways, this atleast guarantees another zerg in the OSL
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GG, thezerg just owned him badly, well deserved win.
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TheZerg just killed him... he let him no chances
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Hwasin sieging too many times in his push gave thezerg the time to get a second army to come and flank him.
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lol, i wonder if hwasin forgot to get ebay/upgrades, his rines were at 0-0 at the end of the match
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btw now I hope thezerg to win vs rumble because I don`t like figurants like Rumble in OSL
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I am praying TheZerg Beats rumble... a new ZvT player is needed on the scene.
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I didn't see him reinforcing his initial push with the tanks that eventually got flanked.
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Yea i hope that TheZerg beats rumble too, i KNOW that Rumble will never do anything, but maybe thezerg might.
Wonder whats the cause of Hwasin's epic choke.
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dose anyone have the vlc stream for me?
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is awesome32274 Posts
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rumble's booth girl has nice knockers
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I hate Rumble. He is a one hit wonder that actually doesnt hit anything.
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I think that Hwasin losing like that was more suprising than JD not qualifying at all.
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Rumble looks REALLY nervous
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Rumble's green at 11
TheZerg orange at 7
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What?
How is rumble's spire *and* hatch behind?
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On August 11 2008 19:36 Vivi57 wrote:
What?
How is rumble's spire *and* hatch behind?
lolol the zerg's mutas are like 5 seconds ahead plus he has resource advantage
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uhm...
okay thezerg actually kicks ass.
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omg thezerg's micro is really nice
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wow, the zerg's micro is pretty good
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Wow the zerg is owning this shit up.
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i dont think he's let a single scourge hit him!
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dude...
thezerg's muta/scourge micro is fanastic!
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If his ZvP is good as his ZvT and ZvZ Thezerg will win this OSL straight up. This is a complete massacare.
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51453 Posts
thezerg finally not choking and doing well.
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On August 11 2008 19:42 samachking wrote:
If his ZvP is good as his ZvT and ZvZ Thezerg will win this OSL straight up. This is a complete massacare.
Well lets not get ahead of ourselves, Rumble sucks, though idk whats up with Hwasin, he did dominate though and certainly thezerg is looking strong as hell.
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wow great muta micro and aggression by TheZerg
Did you guys notice 9lord/gas vs 11pool/10 gas evens out (in terms of gas) because of the earlier gas at natural hat ... that is insane ... same drones and identical gas with 11pool having the faster lair/spire and extra lord .... Solves that debate.
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In mirror matchups that plugin showing mineral/gas/supply is fucking sick as fuck.
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Holy shit look at rumble sweat already
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He needs a better alias. I cannot be a fan of a player called "thezerg," it just isn't done. But his play against Hwasin was certainly worth watching.
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Rumble lookin like hes gonna piss his pants while thezerg is quite calm.
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On August 11 2008 19:47 AttackZerg wrote:
In mirror matchups that plugin showing mineral/gas/supply is fucking sick as fuck.
yeah it really is
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fat guy was trying to nice guy game that girl, girl tells him to look at the screen. love is the same in all cultures!
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Wow, Thezerg actually managed to crush Hwasin. Awesome.
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TheZerg lost the B/O war. Lets see how this goes.
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rumble has more gas, and an extra hatchery this time.
Doesn't look great for thezerg
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rumble might pop too many scourges/muta for thezerg to handle
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wtf is rumble doing. move out idiot
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35psi to 24.
Even before any major fighting, I dont think thezerg can pull this one back
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On August 11 2008 19:56 zgl wrote:
wtf is rumble doing. move out idiot
One of the reasons i dont like Rumble.
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rumble is actually microing his mutas this time
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Savior also had the nick like IPXZerg at the begining.
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how has rumble not won yet?!?
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On August 11 2008 20:00 ShloobeR wrote:
how has rumble not won yet?!?
because his last name is failure
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thezerg should gg out any minute
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Rumble is diong a horrible job at finishing what he should of won easy.
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damn, i hope thezerg has something nice planned for this game
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Rumble looked very unconvincing in his win though, when thezerg just totally ravaged Rumble.
It would be horrible for rumble to win it now : )
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Basically pure Build Order win
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TheZerg had like 5 less drones 2 hat vs 3 hat ... and inconsistent / delayed 3rd gas ... yet he won 2 muta battles with less numbers ... rumble is TheSuck
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thezerg plays early hatch exp this time.
about 100 behind on gas but more drones
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Spire is pretty far behind as well.
But hopefully not far enough for it to be fatal
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The zerg should win this one easy.
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lol at korean fan girls hiding their faces in the wrong camera direction ..
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rumble is 15/33 AFTER hatching 3 mutas.
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oh gosh...
The zerg sends in a lot of lings... and they all get wiped out without doing any damage
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thezerg has less mutas out but oen spore at each hatch at least
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On August 11 2008 20:09 ShloobeR wrote:
rumble is 15/33 AFTER hatching 3 mutas.
No. Plugin is just not instant
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On August 11 2008 20:11 zgl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2008 20:09 ShloobeR wrote:
rumble is 15/33 AFTER hatching 3 mutas. No. Plugin is just not instant
yeh i saw that after they hatched :D
my bad
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If he hadnt wasted so many lings...
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Rumble has a lead, but he isn't confident enough in his micro to attack TheZerg -_- kinda like game 2
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nothing much happening now, rumble is ahead in muta count but thezerg has 600+ gas in reserve
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Rumble 0-1 upgrade
The zerg has 1-0 lol
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they both have functional Expansions up safely now.
This game could go a little longer then average zvz
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Rumble is ahead in upgrades. He should engage before TheZerg gets his 1/1.
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rumble expands to 9!
Thezerg moves out with like 22 muta
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TZ expands to 3 and Rumble scouts it immediately
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QUEENS NEST
Snares would be fun
Plague even better.
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Queens nest for TZ!
Ensnare? Devourers?
Who knows!
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zerg gonna go devourers? LOTS of gas
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devourers would be pretty badass
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god i hope he does go devourers now
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Upgrades are 2-0 (TZ) vs 1-1 (Rumble)
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defiler mound AND greater spire going up.
This will either be awesome or totally lose him the game
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Rumble has to attack now. He has 25 supply advantage, but TZ is getting Greater Spirre
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OMG this is gonna be siiiicc
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God this is so stupid. Scout damn it.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
1-2 wont mean shit if those mutas get plagued though@
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guys tell me pls that the brown is thezerg ?
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TZ moving out with devourers mutas and defiler!
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probly waiting on plague to research and then going
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this is gonna be over in like 5 seconds :D
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PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGUUUUUUUUU
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Now all we need is an offensive nydus
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the defiler moves so slow ><
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Rumble : zero sense of timing and or attacking instinct.
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Thezerg wins *and* we get to see awesome zvz
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thezerg, deserved winner!
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Rumble had a huge attacking window and did jack.
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On August 11 2008 20:25 zgl wrote:
Rumble had a huge attacking window and did jack.
no room for playing scared in starcraft
who'd thezerg choose? luxury?
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Yea i was wondering what rumble was waiting for, i guess The Zerg hid his tech very well and its really impossible to judge the muta count cause they keep stackin em on the hatchery.
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Did Rumble scout Thezerg the entire match? Maybe he just didn't know he was ahead?
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Well after TheZerg beat Hwasin it would be a shame if he didnt advance.
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double D hah (devourer & defiler)
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So Rumble is the first of the starleaguers to lose. Looks like a decent upcoming OSL so far if TheZerg delivers.
Luxury, July, TheZerg, BeSt, Much, BackHo(bleh), Sea, Flash
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thezerg is my xbox live handle so I truly believe this guy may be something special
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yes!
Jung Young Chul advances!
MBC Game Hero <3
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The king of TVZ gets owned by "thezerg"
What is BW coming too :o.
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Nothing. Hwasin in my book has always been utter crap. The only thing he had 'riding' for him at one point was good TvZ. Now he doesn't even have that, HM!
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United States12607 Posts
Come on Rumble! And WTF is with the Red Sniper losing to a B-class Zerg?
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On August 11 2008 23:48 jwd241224 wrote:
Come on Rumble! And WTF is with the Red Sniper losing to a B-class Zerg?
TheZerg was the first zerg to go super fast muta then expo build on plasma ( as far as I know) and hwasins 2 port wraith were faily ineffective ... and then at a point muta>wraith so bad those paper planes crumble ..
Game two hwasin tried 2 rax fast acad push ..... vs 2 hat speed/lurker ... 2 sunkens in barely time + failed ramp runup with 1 drone+hydra blocking long enough for sunkens to take out 2-3 remaing marines ... from there it went to 3 rax ( still no expo) fact (then expo) vs 3 gas > five hat lurker/scourge/ling and +1 carpace way before hwasins .... His strategys failed. He didn't play bad, just strategically he drew the short end. Its not like he pulled a flash and just played like utter shit.
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United States12607 Posts
On August 11 2008 23:58 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2008 23:48 jwd241224 wrote:
Come on Rumble! And WTF is with the Red Sniper losing to a B-class Zerg? TheZerg was the first zerg to go super fast muta then expo build on plasma ( as far as I know) and hwasins 2 port wraith were faily ineffective ... and then at a point muta>wraith so bad those paper planes crumble .. Game two hwasin tried 2 rax fast acad push ..... vs 2 hat speed/lurker ... 2 sunkens in barely time + failed ramp runup with 1 drone+hydra blocking long enough for sunkens to take out 2-3 remaing marines ... from there it went to 3 rax ( still no expo) fact (then expo) vs 3 gas > five hat lurker/scourge/ling and +1 carpace way before hwasins .... His strategys failed. He didn't play bad, just strategically he drew the short end. Its not like he pulled a flash and just played like utter shit.
Thanks for that report. Plasma seems like it will bring out a lot of unorthodox strategies, I like it!
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OGN should force thezerg to change ID
fast
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On August 11 2008 23:48 jwd241224 wrote:
Come on Rumble! And WTF is with the Red Sniper losing to a B-class Zerg?
Did you watch the games? Thezerg's play was NOT B-class.
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On August 12 2008 00:29 St3MoR wrote:
OGN should force thezerg to change ID
fast
Quick, what month will the OSL finals be? DecemberZerg!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
wow i didnt expect hwasin to lose to a zerg.
thezerg played really well though. O_O
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Aw man, I thought Hwasin would advance...
Good games though~
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Well, matybe Hwasin is still traumatized from the 1-3 loss from Jaedong.
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In a group of 2 zerg, Hwasin looked to be the favorite to advance 2-0. Other than him losing, even more suprising was his 0-2 lost against a zerg. Red Sniper shot air!
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Spain572 Posts
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Thezerg was on roids. Go watch all the games.
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EPT
