Kal and 815 got easy groups, though i wouldn't be suprised if JD somehow didn't make it through his group (I'd be quite pleased if Leta did instead, He deserves it)
On July 27 2008 22:40 tracer wrote: Wow, so it's single elimination; one loss and you're out. JD could be one cheese build away from not qualifying for the OSL.
Stork missed out on MSL last season because he got 5pooled twice by a lecaf zerg (Lost Game 1, Won Game 2, Lost a normal Game 3)
On July 28 2008 00:37 Tinithor wrote: WhAT?!?! NO! Pure rA and chalrenge all in one group.... why must this be.... Atleast Savior should have an easy group
I hope BoxeR wins his group, that would be awesome. Haven't seen RainBOw play in a while, hope he gets through the preliminaries as well! Will be rooting for rA too. Too many people to cheer for.. +_+
I hope sAviOr can show us some good games . Also Boxer to win his group . Then again I expect a lots of great games and not some random no-names to qualify taking the spot from someone more experienced and then drop out very fast .
omg these prelims always rock.. just too bad the chance of disappointment is present... GO ACE... boxer mumyung and daezang make me proud i love you <3 the other aces will have a hard time >_<; btw where is clon? sad to see one of the best zergs of all time missing in these prelims T_T ><;
This is the first time I've been around for the prelims of a tournment so I have a few questions that are probably noobish. Are there players that don't have to go through this group prelim stage, like are there players already seeded into the tournment? I ask this because I don't see Flash or Best and a few others on the list and I wasn't sure if maybe they just decided not to play in this tournment or whether they had just been seeded through for some reason.
All players in the round 2 of the previous OSL are automatically seeded into the next OSL (Round 1/ODT round). Players that went 1-2 in round 1 of the previous OSL (ODT round) are automatically seeded into the next OSC.
Edit: It appears that now, half of the ODT players are eliminated to the preliminaries (both the 0-2 and the 1-2 players).
So yes, there are players that get to skip this stage.
On July 28 2008 03:55 Carefree Me wrote: All players in the round 2 of the previous OSL are automatically seeded into the next OSL (Round 1/ODT round). Players that went 1-2 in round 1 of the previous OSL (ODT round) are automatically seeded into the next OSC.
So yes, there are players that get to skip this stage.
Things changed this time around. Players that went 1-2 are now in PSL not the ODT. For example, Casy still has to go through the offlines.
On July 28 2008 03:55 Carefree Me wrote: All players in the round 2 of the previous OSL are automatically seeded into the next OSL (Round 1/ODT round). Players that went 1-2 in round 1 of the previous OSL (ODT round) are automatically seeded into the next OSC.
So yes, there are players that get to skip this stage.
Things changed this time around. Players that went 1-2 are now in PSL not the ODT. For example, Casy still has to go through the offlines.
Thank you for bringing that up. I didn't hear anything about that before so I assumed it was going to be the same. Looks like it's getting more and more scary for the ODT players.
On July 28 2008 03:55 Carefree Me wrote: All players in the round 2 of the previous OSL are automatically seeded into the next OSL (Round 1/ODT round). Players that went 1-2 in round 1 of the previous OSL (ODT round) are automatically seeded into the next OSC.
So yes, there are players that get to skip this stage.
Things changed this time around. Players that went 1-2 are now in PSL not the ODT. For example, Casy still has to go through the offlines.
Thank you for bringing that up. I didn't hear anything about that before so I assumed it was going to be the same. Looks like it's getting more and more scary for the ODT players.
Yeah, no one else said anything, I just sort of noticed it. Also, I think the OSC and especially the ODT/ OSL ro 24 this year is going to have some great games. Theres lots of old favorites not looking as dominant as well as many new player doing well.
On July 28 2008 05:28 Kuja900 wrote: guys where is stork i dont see him in the list
Also, there is no JulyZerg...
july is seeded into ro32 cause hes reigning champ lol, i dont think stork got high enough rank to be seeded tho last tourny did he?
July will be seeded into the Ro16 (assuming last season's rules). Stork was in the Ro16 of the last OSL, meaning he will be seeded into the next ODT (OSL Round 1). Though it may appear to be one step below the Ro16, it is actually not the Ro32. There are only 24 players in ODT.
On July 28 2008 05:28 Kuja900 wrote: guys where is stork i dont see him in the list
Also, there is no JulyZerg...
july is seeded into ro32 cause hes reigning champ lol, i dont think stork got high enough rank to be seeded tho last tourny did he?
July will be seeded into the Ro16 (assuming last season's rules). Stork was in the Ro16 of the last OSL, meaning he will be seeded into the next ODT (OSL Round 1). Though it may appear to be one step below the Ro16, it is actually not the Ro32. There are only 24 players in ODT.
ahh ok ty for clearing that up i thought it was like all the semi finalists get seeded into ro32
NOOOOOOOOOOOO SEri is fucked, he is a very promising young terran user, but i dont think he can beat Spear _and_ inter.clam yet. But on the other side, oOv is his coach - so lets see if he already grew a gorilla tail and beats them ;P
On an unimportant sitenote, everytime when I see carefree me's sig and remember + Show Spoiler +
On July 28 2008 10:24 xenero wrote: Seems the Ultimate OSL FAQ's aren't being read...
Fuck man, those things read like doctorate-level theses. I read them and I'm still confused as to how this all works. Of course, I'm also drunk right now.
p.s.: What kind of retard would nickname himself as k1j2h3? You're about to become a full-time progamer, you faggot.
my guess is his english was crap and couldn't come up with an id, but still you'd think he could type some konglish id. anyway if he ever makes it to tv, the commentators probably won't mention his ID once so thats a moot issue anyway
I think that really is a testament to just how competitive progaming is, because you always see no-names knock out some big name pros in the offline qualis.. Although a lot of that might be due to the cheese/special strats..
On July 28 2008 13:46 Fr33t wrote: ON AIR: → [WCG] Ro24 Day 1
Misleading
I'm pretty sure this is on OGN, as in the channel in Korea that you can get in some satellite or maybe cable bundles outside of Korea. It's not on Daum.
The OSC works in a very similar way to Round One of the OSL in that the groups work identically. The 24 players in Round One of the OSL come from Round Two and OSC. Thus the OSC needs to send 12 players up to Round One to fill up the numbers. OSC also has 24 players, 6 come from Round One and 18 from the offline qualifiers. The 6 players from the ODT come from the players who lost at the tiebreaker set and the 18 from the offline qualifiers come from the group winners.
If 18 players come from offline qualifiers, and there are 12 groups, how is the path from the offline qualifiers to the OSC? And it looks like 9 players per group?
That information is slightly outdated. Now, all 24 players come from offline qualifiers. There are 24 groups, 12 from each day. One player advances from each group.
On July 28 2008 14:25 thunk wrote: Boxer's back in, I hope he gets a place to play in this season's OSL.
Ra and Pusan don't have byes; they have to play their best to make it past the new faces, sadly.
And someone's Journey for the royal road begins here.
I hope Nal_rA has been sleeping a lot lately, because he'll need some pretty insane dreams to beat Pure given his last game against him. Though they may not even play eachother, I don't know the format exactly. I hope they do and rA wins, though I'd settle for their not.
On July 28 2008 20:45 Spyder wrote: Am i blind or what?...i checked 3 times those 4 groups and the seeded ones and i can't find Anytime..whats that lol?
anytime is joining military service. I think he can't attend tourneys at the beginning of his service.
Savior is obviously going ot rip through his group so I'm not worried at all... But I really really really want by.cozy and Hades(by.great) to make it, but their groups are hard.
On July 29 2008 12:48 xenero wrote: Jaedong! Jaedong! Wait, do all 8 groups in each day play @ the same time? Like in a giant gaming room?
except that there are twelve groups each day, split into six and six.
But yes, they do play all at once in a giant gaming room (essentially). Well, not exactly all at once, They launch the next groups as computers become available due to people getting eliminated from earlier groups. Multiple games are always going at once in several groups.
Man, took me a little bit to figure out how to work yaoyuan and it took even longer to get the stream to load. But thanks to the poster who brought up the fact that you can watch the OGN live on it.
On July 29 2008 13:13 tracer wrote: Sweet, they're showing Kal's and Jaedong's groups.
are those the only groups being shown?
Not sure, but on the little OGN preview bar on the bottom of the screen it said Kal and Jaedong. I'm assuming all the groups play at the same time so they'll have to jump around a lot if they plan on showing multiple groups.
On July 28 2008 02:14 Kaolla wrote: omg these prelims always rock.. just too bad the chance of disappointment is present... GO ACE... boxer mumyung and daezang make me proud i love you <3 the other aces will have a hard time >_<; btw where is clon? sad to see one of the best zergs of all time missing in these prelims T_T ><;
On July 28 2008 02:14 Kaolla wrote: omg these prelims always rock.. just too bad the chance of disappointment is present... GO ACE... boxer mumyung and daezang make me proud i love you <3 the other aces will have a hard time >_<; btw where is clon? sad to see one of the best zergs of all time missing in these prelims T_T ><;
I don't think Clon has a team anymore.
Which brings in to my mind something..
KTF is searching for an experienced pro-gamer to become a strategy coach.
Clon doesn't have a team and hasn't been doing very good at all as a pro-gamer, so chances of getting a team is slim. Why not become a strategy coach for KTF?
On July 28 2008 02:14 Kaolla wrote: omg these prelims always rock.. just too bad the chance of disappointment is present... GO ACE... boxer mumyung and daezang make me proud i love you <3 the other aces will have a hard time >_<; btw where is clon? sad to see one of the best zergs of all time missing in these prelims T_T ><;
I don't think Clon has a team anymore.
Which brings in to my mind something..
KTF is searching for an experienced pro-gamer to become a strategy coach.
Clon doesn't have a team and hasn't been doing very good at all as a pro-gamer, so chances of getting a team is slim. Why not become a strategy coach for KTF?
Best 2v2 last season = Not very good as a progamer?
He's probably waiting for FOru to get out so they can be snatched up by a team in need of a good 2's pair. Those two won games on hunters when they had the worst possible positions.
ok ... yaoyuan its based in p2p and i need to forward a port... ill work in it... so sad that so many tl members are watching the games and nobody help me =(
sick comeback from han, nice sair/dt play to take out an expo and then he attacked before JD had plague, but he was pretty lucky imo that JD did not see that observer hidden in the dark swarm
wow jaedong was so ahead, why didn't he push with all hydras, instead of gaying up the middle with lurks. the protoss had only like 1.5 groups of units compared to jaedongs 3+ groups of hydras.
you need to download tvants, install it and then close your browser and re-open it, once you did it, just click in OGN:tvants, and say yes to activex box. wait and watch corean tv =)
On July 29 2008 23:41 Kacas wrote: can someone confirm if jaedong is out of osl? =/
damnit
yes, he is out
Man, this is like Roger Federer losing in the preliminary stages of a Grand Slam. Then again, he would never have to play preliminaries considering his ranking. They should have something like that in pro SC, where ranked players don't have to do prelims (despite their performance in earlier tournaments)... this blows.
On July 30 2008 00:45 crazie-penguin wrote: WHAT JAEDONG WHY WHY EDIT: At least Effort is cool and Jojoba sounds like a cool name...(july is obviously seeded but is luxury also seeded?)
Haha, Jojoba (쪼쪼바) is Korean for a kind of popsicle.
On July 30 2008 00:45 crazie-penguin wrote: WHAT JAEDONG WHY WHY EDIT: At least Effort is cool and Jojoba sounds like a cool name...(july is obviously seeded but is luxury also seeded?)
Yep, Lux is seeded to the Ro16 as well .
But lol - who the hell is han? I really really like to see his games (especially against JD) .
Fuck this shit no JD i don't care if you lose even to Baby you are still the best . On what maps did Jaedong lose to this Han guy and were the games good I mean you don't often see JD lose to a protoss nowadays ?
On July 30 2008 01:29 raga4ka wrote: Fuck this shit no JD i don't care if you lose even to Baby you are still the best . On what maps did Jaedong lose to this Han guy and were the games good I mean you don't often see JD lose to a protoss nowadays ?
we didnt see game 1 where han won on tv but in game 3 han played amazing and pulled off a comeback against jd
On July 30 2008 01:29 raga4ka wrote: Fuck this shit no JD i don't care if you lose even to Baby you are still the best . On what maps did Jaedong lose to this Han guy and were the games good I mean you don't often see JD lose to a protoss nowadays ?
we didnt see game 1 where han won on tv but in game 3 han played amazing and pulled off a comeback against jd
It sure looked like a HUGE comeback (Jaedong was ahead in terms of resources), but now that I think about it, it seemed like Han was just biding his time to pull off a MASSIVE hanbang timing attack. And it worked. Amazing storms, amazing reaver micro, and very, very cost effective play won him the game.
Hey, i like JD, and i would of rather him advanced over Han... but hey, what can ya do? (Though if it was leta, then Leta all the way! OGN Fanboyism ftw)
On July 29 2008 23:41 Kacas wrote: can someone confirm if jaedong is out of osl? =/
damnit
yes, he is out
Man, this is like Roger Federer losing in the preliminary stages of a Grand Slam. Then again, he would never have to play preliminaries considering his ranking. They should have something like that in pro SC, where ranked players don't have to do prelims (despite their performance in earlier tournaments)... this blows.
I think the system is OK, it stimulates the competition, if there is a seeds and ranking system about the sc tournaments you will watch the same faces all over again, I think 12 out of 16 will be the same guys. About the games vs han, it really doesn't matter who is the better player overall, because the protoss guy played better in the set, he deserves to advance more than JD...just like July deserved the OSL title more than BeSt. JD should really focus on his MSL performance next season and good luck to Han
thank God 4 terran's advanced in the 2nd half. strong ones too, in light, iris, and gogo. dongrae i don't really care about, but since he's in lecaf he has really good training partners. maybe he'll actually do something this time around.
Jaedong is eliminated by Flash in two leagues, then loses 0-2 in the group stages of Ever, loses 0-3 in the finals of arena msl, and fails to qualify for the next osl.
I don't care what you say, these recent events are going to be a HUGE hit to Jaedong. I expect a slump.
On July 30 2008 04:46 Dazed_Spy wrote: Jaedong is eliminated by Flash in two leagues, then loses 0-2 in the group stages of Ever, loses 0-3 in the finals of arena msl, and fails to qualify for the next osl.
I don't care what you say, these recent events are going to be a HUGE hit to Jaedong. I expect a slump.
I think the slump of JD already started. This lost to han I think, is a result from the big upset of the MSL finals - 0-3 is not a joke - he got completely dominated by fOrGG and I think we will be able to see some more upsetting results from JD in the near future .
EARLY GROUPS Group A - Spear - Lost in Finals - I still think he should have been able to get out of that group. His loss in the finals is his own fauly after letting the hour long frist game that ended in a draw get to him. I give myself half a point Group B - Tester - Advances! - As I expected One full point Group C - hyvaa - Lost in Finals - I'll use the excuse that ZvZ outcomes can be unpredictable. Half a point Group D - Kal - Advances! - This one was easy. One point Group E - Jaedong - Lost in Finals - Seriously? Who the fuck is han? Jaedong had no excuse not to win his final match. Half a point Group F - 815 - Lost in Round of Four - Some nice upsets in this group. You are better than that 815, but you failed. You had a relatively easy group too. No points
Three and a half points for the first segment. Pretty good I think. None of my predictions lost in the first round, and only one didn't make it to the finals.
LATE GROUPS Group G - TT - Lost in Round of Four - I know you could have cheesed your way to victory, and I think you would have beat Iris had you made it to the finals, but you didn't. No points Group H - Light - Advances! - The winner of each match in the group was who I thought would win. Plus one Group I - go.go - Advances! - This one was too easy. One more Group J - DaezanG - Failed - Clearly I made the wrong call on this one. Oops. No points Group K - Shudder - Lost in Round of Four - I knew I should have went with HerO in this group. But I didn't. No points Group L - Sheis - Failed - Your TvZ is good and you had no business losing that match. Nothing
So the later group only gave me two points. Average I'd say. When they got to the finals they delivered, otherwise they pretty much sucked. I think my picks could have done better (obviously), but I don't think there were any major surpises from these six groups as to the six players advancing.
I am also going to change some of my Day 2 predictions after giving them some thought, I'll get those re-posted in a bit.
The earlier groups are pretty straightforward I think, while most of the later groups have a bit more difficulty to them or are much more even as far as player skill and experience goes.
The earlier groups are pretty straightforward I think, while most of the later groups have a bit more difficulty to them or are much more even as far as player skill and experience goes.
Shine shall be eaten by Ma Jae Yoon. Clearly you typoed.
The earlier groups are pretty straightforward I think, while most of the later groups have a bit more difficulty to them or are much more even as far as player skill and experience goes.
Shine shall be eaten by Ma Jae Yoon. Clearly you typoed.
like I said back on page 6... *reverse psychology*
Jaedong can make the next OSL, right? I'm asking this because I read article long ago about how a progamer failed at offlines and couldnt be present for 3 osls.
At least 5-6 of those players aren't going to make it.
Upsets away!!
On July 30 2008 11:01 xenero wrote: Jaedong can make the next OSL, right? I'm asking this because I read article long ago about how a progamer failed at offlines and couldnt be present for 3 osls.
Where do you get your sources? That couldn't be from here because that's false.
Day 2 Predictions Ideal(What I want) Predictions + Show Spoiler +
A - Lomo
B - Memory
C - fOrGG
D - Firebathero
E - Hwasin
F - Nal_rA
G - Boxer
H - sAviOr
I - Midas OR ToSsGirL
J - XellOs OR GoRush
K - Casy OR LuCifer
L - Canata
Realistic Predictions
I'll only put analysis for the groups that have changed and how I think our beloved oldies will fall to the newcomers. + Show Spoiler +
Group A First off I HONESTLY don't see Lomo making it, and if he treats his games anyway like Jaedong did then he won't be able to win it, I can see Devil or BestGod getting this one.
Group B Both Memory and RuBy are ones I want to go through, but after what I saw happen to Jaedong(im going to be using that a lot get used to it) this Group is anyone's game but if I had anyone to give it to I'd say FireFirst
Group C Unchanged gogo fOrGG
Group D Unchanged gogo firebathero (though I would like saint to win :< )
Group E lol
Group F I could see Chalrenge take down rA, I know Bisu's PvP isnt ASTOUNDING or how it compares to rA's, but it all depends on if either can wade their way through the other matchups first.
Group G The sad truth, its BoxeR, everyone wants him to win because it would mean so much more since he's finally done with ACE. Things have changed since he was gone and you can't see everything just from Proleague, though there aren't any eye-openers in Group G I'm still worried about the outcomes (see Jaedong rant)
Group H sAviOr I have no doubts, if he loses I blame Jaedong. lol
Group I I have on my computer a replay of Nbs[gm] vs Savior(he's his pracitce partner or something) and the game I saw was an epic PvZ, I don't know how is PvT works out (because Stay doesn't looking hes staying hah hah haaa) but if anyone can take this group by suprise its him. (Of course I want Midas back btw, and ToSsGirL playing as terran..haha)
Group J Xellos, I'm a little worried about GoRush being in the group, but Xellos got qualified for the last 2 OSLs he can do it again. Btw the group name SeoJiHoon he better win
Group K I can't say no to Casy(WemadeFOX fan here) , but I can't shake the feeling that someone, maybe LuCifier, maybe not LuCifer, is going to be changing a few things around in this group. Group L If fOru works some magic and gets out of this alive I will have no major complaints (sorry Canata D: )
On July 30 2008 11:31 Monokeros wrote: Day 2 Predictions Ideal(What I want) Predictions + Show Spoiler +
A - Lomo
B - Memory
C - fOrGG
D - Firebathero
E - Hwasin
F - Nal_rA
G - Boxer
H - sAviOr
I - Midas OR ToSsGirL
J - XellOs OR GoRush
K - Casy OR LuCifer
L - Canata
Realistic Predictions
I'll only put analysis for the groups that have changed and how I think our beloved oldies will fall to the newcomers. + Show Spoiler +
Group A First off I HONESTLY don't see Lomo making it, and if he treats his games anyway like Jaedong did then he won't be able to win it, I can see Devil or BestGod getting this one.
Group B Both Memory and RuBy are ones I want to go through, but after what I saw happen to Jaedong(im going to be using that a lot get used to it) this Group is anyone's game but if I had anyone to give it to I'd say FireFirst
Group C Unchanged gogo fOrGG
Group D Unchanged gogo firebathero (though I would like saint to win :< )
Group E lol
Group F I could see Chalrenge take down rA, I know Bisu's PvP isnt ASTOUNDING or how it compares to rA's, but it all depends on if either can wade their way through the other matchups first.
Group G The sad truth, its BoxeR, everyone wants him to win because it would mean so much more since he's finally done with ACE. Things have changed since he was gone and you can't see everything just from Proleague, though there aren't any eye-openers in Group G I'm still worried about the outcomes (see Jaedong rant)
Group H sAviOr I have no doubts, if he loses I blame Jaedong. lol
Group I I have on my computer a replay of Nbs[gm] vs Savior(he's his pracitce partner or something) and the game I saw was an epic PvZ, I don't know how is PvT works out (because Stay doesn't looking hes staying hah hah haaa) but if anyone can take this group by suprise its him. (Of course I want Midas back btw, and ToSsGirL playing as terran..haha)
Group J Xellos, I'm a little worried about GoRush being in the group, but Xellos got qualified for the last 2 OSLs he can do it again. Btw the group name SeoJiHoon he better win
Group K I can't say no to Casy(WemadeFOX fan here) , but I can't shake the feeling that someone, maybe LuCifier, maybe not LuCifer, is going to be changing a few things around in this group. Group L If fOru works some magic and gets out of this alive I will have no major complaints (sorry Canata D: )
I hope Savior faces-off against Shine again. Not only is Shine's TvZ pretty weak, but the last time those two played it was complete rape by Savior and his CJ face of domination after he won.
Man, this is such a brutal process. So many players that probably deserved to get in (Jaedong, anyone?) were eliminated here and have to wait until next season.
Didn't TheZerg just get his progaming license by eliminating Idra recently?
Yea, losingID8 got it right. Idra lost to zergstyle[gm] - probably the only non-accomplished [gm] player i've heard of.
On July 30 2008 15:59 thunk wrote: Man, this is such a brutal process. So many players that probably deserved to get in (Jaedong, anyone?) were eliminated here and have to wait until next season.
Didn't TheZerg just get his progaming license by eliminating Idra recently?
no, thezerg has been a progamer for quite a while now
On July 30 2008 18:45 Fish_Baguettes wrote: Wow, Notice went 2-0 against Ra and Chalrenge O.o Has he been in action before? Or has anyone heard of him?
STX_SOUL Notice was one of the best players of the minor league and he played in the play off in STX vs OGN and was the only one who win for STX
On July 30 2008 18:45 Fish_Baguettes wrote: Wow, Notice went 2-0 against Ra and Chalrenge O.o Has he been in action before? Or has anyone heard of him?
STX_SOUL Notice was one of the best players of the minor league and he played in the play off in STX vs OGN and was the only one who win for STX
apparently in game 1 vs hyun, hwasin lost to a 4pool. but then he came back from 0-1 to win it 2-1! that's champion material right there. go win this starleague hwasin!
Can somebody who is able to actually view the games do some live reporting .. for some reason yy is crap for me these last two days t.t =-( (after 2 months of perfect streaming ... fucking karma)
On July 30 2008 21:03 AttackZerg wrote: Can somebody who is able to actually view the games do some live reporting .. for some reason yy is crap for me these last two days t.t =-( (after 2 months of perfect streaming ... fucking karma)
Have you tried playple.com? (Use IE, due to ActiveX application is required)
Mutas doing ALOT of damage to pusan he counters but is driven off by some hydras and lurks, of hydras and lurks Savior i guess counter counters to pusan's 3rd.
On July 30 2008 21:37 Plexa wrote: YES Savior 1-1 Pusan
You mean Midas? Im confused...
And Midas, Savior and Pusan in one group. That's pretty stacked.
[edit]
Like I thought. I guess someone meant Pusan instead of Midas earlier.
But, didn't Savior already 2-0 Pusan? Im sure I saw several people discuss that. Savior tricked Pusan by making more mutas, or something. Then 2-0. And that was a while ago.
Midas' interview is nothing extraordinary; he did have a really husky voice. Either he has a bad cold in the middle of the summer or is choked with emotion.
30일, 용산 e스포츠 보조경기장에서 열린 인크루트 스타리그 2008 예선 H조에서 박지호(MBC게임)이 본선 진출에 성공했다.
다음은 박지호와의 일문일답.
- 2년 3개월 만에 스타리그에 복귀한 소감은 ▲ 일단 기분이 너무 좋다. 스타리그에서 떨어질 때쯤 양대리그 본선에 있었던 데다 프로리그까지 있으면서 쉬고 싶다는 생각을 했었다. 그런 생각을 하는 바람에 지금까지 백수 생활을 하게 된 것 같다(웃음). 첫 챌린지리그를 통과할 때 마재윤 선수를 잡고 올라왔었는데 공교롭게도 오늘 또 다시 마재윤 선수가 결승 상대에서 기분이 그렇다.
- 결승전이 아무래도 가장 힘들었을 텐데 ▲ 방송에서 보셨는지 모르겠지만 세 경기 모두 굉장히 재미있었던 것 같다. 마재윤 선수와는 예전 MSL 16강에서 붙었는데 초반 저글링에 졌었다. 그런데 이번에 대진표를 보니 생각보다 선수들이 힘들어서 걱정을 좀 했다. 하지만 솔직하게 목표가 마재윤 선수였기 때문에 준비하고 있었다.
- 마재윤 선수와 경기한 소감은 ▲ 1경기에서 유리했었는데 마재윤 선수가 소름이 끼칠 정도로 잘해서 지고 말았다. 하지만 이후에 감독님께서 좋은 말씀을 많이 해주셔서 마인드 컨트롤을 잘 할 수 있었다. 긴장이 굉장히 많이 됐지만 8강부터 차례로 게임을 하면서 최종 보스를 만날 준비를 할 수 있었던 것 같다.
- 오랜만의 스타리그라 목표도 남다를 것 같은데 ▲ 이제 한 고비를 넘겼을 뿐이고 앞으로 두 고비, 세 고비가 남았다. 온게임넷 관계자 분들께서 생각한다면 대진표를 조금 쉽게 짜주지 않을까(웃음). 농담이다. 일단 최소 16강은 올라가고 싶다. 16강 진출에 성공한다면 결승까지는 바로 올라갈 수 있을 것 같다.
- MBC게임이 스타리그 예선 최다 진출인데 ▲ 팀원들이 묵묵하게 연습에 충실했다. 그리고 떨어져서 숙소로 돌아오는 선수를 보고 ‘나는 탈락하지 말아야겠다’는 생각을 하면서 자극을 받았던 것 같다.
- 특별히 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 오랜만에 스타리그에 올라간 만큼 더욱 더 재미있는 경기로 찾아 뵙고 싶다. 예전에는 물량으로 화끈한 경기를 보여드리면서 인기를 얻은 것 같은데 다시 초심으로 돌아가서 물량과 함께 테크니컬한 모습도 준비해서 돌아오겠다.
30일, 용산 e스포츠 보조경기장에서 열린 인크루트 스타리그 2008 예선 H조에서 박지호(MBC게임)이 본선 진출에 성공했다.
On the 30th, at the Yongsan eSports stadium, Park Ji Ho (Pusan[s.g] qualified for the main league through H group of 2008 Incruit Starleague
다음은 박지호와의 일문일답.
The following is a one-question and one-answer (someone tell me what 일문일답 is) with Pusan.
PLEASE NOTE that the way [someone] asked these questions is actually a statement, not a question. He or she elicits answers, using suggestive(?) statements.
- 2년 3개월 만에 스타리그에 복귀한 소감은 ▲ 일단 기분이 너무 좋다. 스타리그에서 떨어질 때쯤 양대리그 본선에 있었던 데다 프로리그까지 있으면서 쉬고 싶다는 생각을 했었다. 그런 생각을 하는 바람에 지금까지 백수 생활을 하게 된 것 같다(웃음). 첫 챌린지리그를 통과할 때 마재윤 선수를 잡고 올라왔었는데 공교롭게도 오늘 또 다시 마재윤 선수가 결승 상대에서 기분이 그렇다.
Q. Feeling after entering a league after two years and three monthes. A. I am so elated. Around the time when I was disqualified from both leagues I wanted to take a break, so I was a freeloader for a while. I think I'm happy because the first challenge league I passed through I beat Savior and I beat him again today.
- 결승전이 아무래도 가장 힘들었을 텐데 ▲ 방송에서 보셨는지 모르겠지만 세 경기 모두 굉장히 재미있었던 것 같다. 마재윤 선수와는 예전 MSL 16강에서 붙었는데 초반 저글링에 졌었다. 그런데 이번에 대진표를 보니 생각보다 선수들이 힘들어서 걱정을 좀 했다. 하지만 솔직하게 목표가 마재윤 선수였기 때문에 준비하고 있었다.
Q. The final game of Bo3 seemed the hardest. A. I don't know if you (viewers) saw the game or not, but I think they were all exciting. Before I faced Savior in MSL Ro16 before and lost due to zergling rush. This OSL Qualifiers I saw the brackets and was daunted by the caliber of players, but truthfully prepared because my opponent was Savior.
- 마재윤 선수와 경기한 소감은 ▲ 1경기에서 유리했었는데 마재윤 선수가 소름이 끼칠 정도로 잘해서 지고 말았다. 하지만 이후에 감독님께서 좋은 말씀을 많이 해주셔서 마인드 컨트롤을 잘 할 수 있었다. 긴장이 굉장히 많이 됐지만 8강부터 차례로 게임을 하면서 최종 보스를 만날 준비를 할 수 있었던 것 같다.
Q. Feeling after versing Savior. A. I was advatageous in the first game, but Savior played astonishingly well and I lost. Nevertheless my coach cheered me up, and I was able to mentally prepare for the next games. I was extremely nervous, but I was prepared from Ro8.
- 오랜만의 스타리그라 목표도 남다를 것 같은데 ▲ 이제 한 고비를 넘겼을 뿐이고 앞으로 두 고비, 세 고비가 남았다. 온게임넷 관계자 분들께서 생각한다면 대진표를 조금 쉽게 짜주지 않을까(웃음). 농담이다. 일단 최소 16강은 올라가고 싶다. 16강 진출에 성공한다면 결승까지는 바로 올라갈 수 있을 것 같다.
Q. Since this league is after a long break, you must have particular determinations. A. This is only one of the challenges I have to face. I still have three to go. The Ongamenet staff was lenient(sp?) on the brackets (laughs). Just kidding. I really want to at least advance to Ro16. If I reach there, I feel as if I could reach finals easily.
- MBC게임이 스타리그 예선 최다 진출인데 ▲ 팀원들이 묵묵하게 연습에 충실했다. 그리고 떨어져서 숙소로 돌아오는 선수를 보고 ‘나는 탈락하지 말아야겠다’는 생각을 하면서 자극을 받았던 것 같다.
Q. Biggest number of MBCGame Heroes' players advanced into the preliminaries. A. Everyone practiced dilligently and phlegmatically. After seeing those who disqualified, I was piqued to "not become one of them".
- 특별히 하고 싶은 말이 있다면 ▲ 오랜만에 스타리그에 올라간 만큼 더욱 더 재미있는 경기로 찾아 뵙고 싶다. 예전에는 물량으로 화끈한 경기를 보여드리면서 인기를 얻은 것 같은데 다시 초심으로 돌아가서 물량과 함께 테크니컬한 모습도 준비해서 돌아오겠다.
Q. Any special comments you want to say A. After such a long respite from a starleague, I want to entertain fans with even more exciting games (than before). I was known for my monsterous army (not macro) so I will prepare for fantastic unit production as well as other techniques.
Go Pusan~
You own me something Plexa.
Man I just remembered I have a partially translated ToSsGirl article. -_- That one will take ages---
I really like the fact that pusan pass this. Just bad that he had to take off Savior for it since I would also like to see Savior but I guess the best of the two did pass
zerg fans should pray that July or Lux makes it to the Ro8... Thou I feel sad about savior I'm extremely happy that only a handful of zergs made it to the Ro32 and if everything goes fine only July and Lux will be in the Ro16.
EDIT: Wish sAviOr luck on the MSL qualifiers then.
yea seriously, savior's one televised game against pusan was impressive to say the least he's certainly not beaten.. its just a travesty that they were put into the same group ffs
Wow...I'm heartbroken for Oversky and Rainbow...damnit, almost.
Nal_keke made an impressive feat, beating Fancy and scratching go.go (1-2) is an impressive feat. I think the guy's still improving, one day who knows...
Take note of BaBy, too. That kid's rising. Fast. Miz.Peace ain't a rookie - and we all know who ForGG is, and how much he has shaped his TvT up recently.
And FBH out is like caressing all my wounds by the best doctor's in the world.
Who the heck is Doochi? Sporting a great amount of 3 minor league losses and almost breezing through a group like THAT? Starting with beating free of all people when he's forced to play one match more? Wow.
Midas - Welcome back!
About Justin: I think noone really ever tried to go deep into this as he's come off as negative to most TL people (to me too, actually ), but maybe he's just choking in the spotlight? (still, after this much time, who knows - it's just about his personality, nothing else). He may do well when the camera / audience isn't on
EARLY GROUPS Group A - Lomo - Lost in Round of Four - Lomo, you suck! No points Group B - RuBy - Lost in Round of Four - I'm not too disappointed with this result, Violet had a good chnce of emerging from this group. But still no points Group C - fOrGG - Advances! - Him not advancing and not riding his momentum is nearly uncomprehendable right now. One easy point Group D - fantasy - Advances! - I thought firebathero would have fallen to one of the protoss players, but fantasy, being the baller he is, took down fbh's TvT anyway. One point Group E - Hwasin - Advanced! - Some players are blessed with easy groups. One point Group F - Pure - Advanced! - After the last Proleague season, Pure was the obvious choice here. One point
Four points out of six possible. I'd say that's quite good, even if most of these group made for fairly simple predictions upsets can still happen. The two players who I didn't predict as advancing at least got past the first round.
LATER GROUPS Group G - s2 - Lost in Round of Four - I like Shark so I'm not too disappointed, even though he did defeat Boxer on the way I also blame ZvZ again. No points Group H - Shine - Lost in Round of Four - Fuck you Pusan. And fuck you too Shine for not beating Pusan so that Savior could devour you in the finals. I really thought Savior would make it through. My reverse psychology didn't work. He was even ahead in the finals. For Savior almost getting there... I give myself half a point Group I - Midas - Advanced! - Welcome back to television Midas. You also had one of those easy groups. One point Group J - SoO - Advanced! - I made the right call in changing my prediction on this one. One awesome point Group K - LuCifer - Lost in Round of Four - Just like I made the wrong call in switching here. Casy wasn't supposed to beat a Lucifer. Glad that Hyuk made it though. I give myself 0.25 points for this one Group L - Justin - Advanced! - Nobody wants Justin to advance, actually from the OGN website it appears he has a decent amount of Korean fans that do; but none of us want him to advance. He still does a lot of the time though and we can't help but accept that. One regretful point
For the later group I earned by my own counting: 3.75 points. Again I think I did very well here, especially since the last six groups were a little less straightforward than the first six. Again no one fell out before they could get past the first round.
I also did better than the couple of you others predicting outcomes. I'll take pride in being able to do that.
On July 31 2008 02:31 Showtime! wrote: I did a little bit better than you :p
But, in some cases I took two players. T_T Only one of my second selections advanced though so quite even.
The reason I counted myself as having done better is because I didn't choose two players. If I chose two I would have likely gotten a couple more correct, Hyun for sure and likely one or two others.
On July 31 2008 04:14 Showtime! wrote: Because you cannot base everything on stats from televised games.
Many players have been training months for this.
I don't. Can people please stop saying that someone bases everything off stats from televized games just because he posted a TLPD record. It's getting annoying.
Gah this isn't what I imagined the OSL would be like... (casy, jeadong, savior, boxer, even Hades ...well, i couldn't expect much from boxer and he's not my fav but seeing him back wouldve been awesome)
On the birght side MBCs Super Sniper SHARK[GM] made it, at least we'll see some interesting games from him.
When i went to sleep savior was up 1-0 and now he loses.... ah well, atleast shark and midas managed to pass, this should be a good OSL, hopefully these rookie zergs will show they've got game.
On July 31 2008 04:07 TheTyranid wrote: FUCK HYUK. FUCK THIS ZERG.
Casy even beat Lucifer who should have walked all over him. Then he gets beat by a Zerg.
I quit life.....................
Yah, that group was just complete nonsense. Lucifer loses at his strongest matchup (vT) playing against Casy whose vP is his weakest matchup (supposedly)
Afterwards, Casy loses at HIS strongest matchup (vZ) against Hyuk whose vT is his weakest matchup.
Apparently, logical outcomes don't apply to the offline preliminaries.
I was so fucking excited when I read the results spoiler and sAviOr was up 1-0 against Pusan, but then I fucking realized he's not advancing and screamed "FUCK YOU PUSAN" at the top of my lungs.
On July 31 2008 05:33 Tinithor wrote: Pretty depressing savior has fallen out of the leagues all together... does he still have to qualify for the MSL too?
I'm glad that I won't have to see jaedong knock out all my favourites in OSL and then losing to players I hate (forGG).
But even when not advancing, he has to rob me of one of my most favourite players, Leta.
Fuck you jaedong in all eternity, after raping much and hwasin I at least had respect for you, but after losing to a comparatively lousy player like forGG I've lost all of it.
On July 31 2008 08:15 Barbarne wrote: Fuck you jaedong in all eternity, after raping much and hwasin I at least had respect for you, but after losing to a comparatively lousy player like forGG I've lost all of it.
Man, when I first read that, I didn't read comparatively and I was gonna flame you so hard. But yeah, Jaedong shoulda 4pooled after he was up 1-0.
I am so terrible pissed off right now at some of the results... Especially seeing some of those players I reaaaaally wanted to see go to the next round fall at the very doorstep of it. OMFG Savior, Boxer, Casy? And Xellos and Gorush got eliminated in the first round..... I am already starting to hate this OSL, and it hasn't even started yet. Heck, we don't even know who will be at the next OSL!
Come on fellas, just because your fav players didn't get through, it doesn't mean the osl wont be fun. I mean, if they didn't get through, its because they aren't good enough. We have better players-new players- to replace them. Some of them may become dominant in this osl. You don't have to remain a fan of only 4-5 pro gamers.
On August 01 2008 01:19 Dazed_Spy wrote: Come on fellas, just because your fav players didn't get through, it doesn't mean the osl wont be fun. I mean, if they didn't get through, its because they aren't good enough. We have better players-new players- to replace them. Some of them may become dominant in this osl. You don't have to remain a fan of only 4-5 pro gamers.
So Jaedong isn't good enough? Please lol. Probably just wasn't focused with Flash on his mind in the Gomtv finals.
Anyway I'll agree that it'll still be good I look forward to watching Pusan play.
On July 31 2008 17:59 iloveHieu wrote: Pusan is so ugly though.
On August 01 2008 01:19 Dazed_Spy wrote: Come on fellas, just because your fav players didn't get through, it doesn't mean the osl wont be fun. I mean, if they didn't get through, its because they aren't good enough. We have better players-new players- to replace them. Some of them may become dominant in this osl. You don't have to remain a fan of only 4-5 pro gamers.
So Jaedong isn't good enough? Please lol. Probably just wasn't focused with Flash on his mind in the Gomtv finals.
Anyway I'll agree that it'll still be good I look forward to watching Pusan play.
On July 31 2008 17:59 iloveHieu wrote: Pusan is so ugly though.
Are you high?
Eh, only time will tell if Jaedong is still Jaedong or not. Losing 0-3 and failing to qualify leaves me with a question mark. And yes, Pusan is very ugly.
Pusan!!! is thorough!!! though at the expense of savior =(. Lomo failed... and Boxer . BTW, anyone know if FBH cried after losing to Fantasy? Didn't watch teh game =(
edit: Who the hell is jojoba?
edit2: ROFL, check out Dongae's record, how the hell did he get through?
Remember, this is the "Legend of the Fall" so I think one of these three will win the OSL... 1. BeSt (most probable) 2. Kal (royal road too) 3. Pure (royal road, least probable)
On August 02 2008 11:40 3 Lions wrote: Remember, this is the "Legend of the Fall" so I think one of these three will win the OSL... 1. BeSt (most probable) 2. Kal (royal road too) 3. Pure (royal road, least probable)
my bet is on pure. I really want him to become a top level player
Either han or tempest will be the one who carries on the legend of fall, I mean han last year just got embarrassed by july now hes taking down jaedong, and tempest in the msl qualifiers he took out july who at the moment has the most godly zvp on the scene not once but twice. Both of these feats i think we can safely attribute to this very season
As the things are going soon we will have ony terran and protoss league with no zergs remaining. I don't know why is that? Maybe because of the map pool? I have read somewhere some interview with an OSL MSL map maker and he said that he is favouring protoss always when he is constructing a new map.
EPT
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By.Flash (KTF MagicNs)
Rock (WeMade FOX)
GGPlay (CJ Entus)
. Also Boxer to win his group 
. Then again I expect a lots of great games and not some random no-names to qualify taking the spot from someone more experienced and then drop out very fast 
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