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Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
June 27 2008 10:22 GMT
#181
On June 27 2008 19:19 QuietIdiot wrote:
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On June 27 2008 19:18 Pepsicolaone wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:16 Uligor wrote:
I hate this map pool so much.
I think BeSt is going to miss his first OSL title just because of this map pool.

i dont think this map pool is ne more or less worse than when savior won. but he won meeting terrans in semi and final with Reverse Temple and loguinus2.

PvZ is the hardest mu to balance out, hence a history of poor pvz recs from leagues throughout the years.

ZvT =/ PvZ, much different dynamics and styles of play.

you were talking about map pool and now your talking about MU balance?? nvm... forget it... you obviously dont get what i mean....
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
June 27 2008 10:22 GMT
#182
On June 27 2008 19:19 QuietIdiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 19:18 Pepsicolaone wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:16 Uligor wrote:
I hate this map pool so much.
I think BeSt is going to miss his first OSL title just because of this map pool.

i dont think this map pool is ne more or less worse than when savior won. but he won meeting terrans in semi and final with Reverse Temple and loguinus2.

PvZ is the hardest mu to balance out, hence a history of poor pvz recs from leagues throughout the years.

ZvT =/ PvZ, much different dynamics and styles of play.


ZvT is just as imbalanced, if not more so.
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LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10830 Posts
June 27 2008 10:22 GMT
#183
On June 27 2008 19:21 jwd241224 wrote:
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On June 27 2008 19:20 weiliem wrote:
the map pool just wont affect him.


No player is that good.

savior used to be that good
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gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 10:24:25
June 27 2008 10:22 GMT
#184
And game 3 is starting now, lux is up 2-0, and the map is Troy, so it's good for best, but beware of Lux creative mind! Lux spawns at 10 while Best at 5. Best builds a pylon in his main, so he won't fe. Maybe he is afraid of a 5 pool . He now builds a gate and an extractor, and send a probe near the assim to block scouting. Meanwhile lux looks to be 9 speedling again.
Carefree
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1571 Posts
June 27 2008 10:23 GMT
#185
Game 3 has started.
Map: Troy

Cross positions
Best green @ 5
Luxury yellow @ 11
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QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 10:24:59
June 27 2008 10:23 GMT
#186
On June 27 2008 19:22 Pepsicolaone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 19:19 QuietIdiot wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:18 Pepsicolaone wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:16 Uligor wrote:
I hate this map pool so much.
I think BeSt is going to miss his first OSL title just because of this map pool.

i dont think this map pool is ne more or less worse than when savior won. but he won meeting terrans in semi and final with Reverse Temple and loguinus2.

PvZ is the hardest mu to balance out, hence a history of poor pvz recs from leagues throughout the years.

ZvT =/ PvZ, much different dynamics and styles of play.

you were talking about map pool and now your talking about MU balance?? nvm... forget it... you obviously dont get what i mean....

Nono I inferred about map pool balance, not the matchup itself. PvZ mu's are tough to balance out for maps.

But FE variations have sort of balanced it out, but on a map like hwarando where you don't get a gas surplus when the zerg will get +1 up, it becomes a slippery slope.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
June 27 2008 10:24 GMT
#187
when protosses play blind and mass probes (2 zeals and 3 cannons??) and then lose to a break, you really can't moan.
: o )
tracer
Profile Joined March 2008
Korea (South)693 Posts
June 27 2008 10:25 GMT
#188
Uh oh. Best might get trapped inside his main.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 27 2008 10:25 GMT
#189
haha luxury is really abusing troy Wow
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
June 27 2008 10:26 GMT
#190
aww cmon!!
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
June 27 2008 10:26 GMT
#191
On June 27 2008 19:21 Dromar wrote:
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On June 27 2008 19:16 Ota Solgryn wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:13 Dromar wrote:
On June 27 2008 19:10 blabber wrote:
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Luxury showing us all how lame Zerg is



I was actually really excited once I saw Lux go 9pool speed. I'm always interested to see what pro Zergs can do with an aggressive build on maps with ramps. Is cheese all Zerg can do? Seems like it's always 2 hatch muta or a hydra break after aggro starts from Zergs.



Its increadible that you call a two hatch muta build cheese. Its a fucking tier 2 unit!

"No rush 20 mins OK?"



What would you call it? An aggressive, low-econ build that has one good chance to deal big damage? If it's a strong econ build, why would anybody use 3 hatch muta instead?

I didn't mean to call 2 hatch muta cheese, though that's how it came out. Plus I've never even tried it or considered trying it, so I'm not in a position to say. Do you think it's not cheese? It seems equally cheesy to a hydra break to me, though I prefer to call it an all-in timing push.


Yeah its an aggressive low-econ build. But its certanly not all-in. Yes, you CAN win in one blow, but you can also deal a great amount of damage which only gives you a slight advantage.
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gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 10:27:28
June 27 2008 10:26 GMT
#192
Lux sends his lings the wrong way at 2, but is sending one ling toward the 5 position, so he will scout best. Best has one zealot and two probes to hold position, so lux attacks the assims and manage to snipe one! A dragon is out for best, but he loses his zealot! Horrible play by best as he lets zergling coming down his main! Meanwhile lux has laid 2 more hatches, one at his nat.
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
June 27 2008 10:27 GMT
#193
Luxury is a BEAST today.

Best should've looked at how stork played his series vs him.
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
June 27 2008 10:27 GMT
#194
On June 27 2008 19:20 weiliem wrote:
stop blaming about the map pool pls. if (P)BeSt is really good, the map pool just wont affect him. (Z)Luxury really put out a better performance than (P)BeSt did.

This might be the dumbest comment I've read all week.
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poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
June 27 2008 10:28 GMT
#195
first kill on that sair
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
June 27 2008 10:28 GMT
#196
On June 27 2008 19:21 jwd241224 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2008 19:20 weiliem wrote:
the map pool just wont affect him.


No player is that good.


Flash vs. Stork on Katrina?
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Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
June 27 2008 10:28 GMT
#197
lol @ best!
gondolin
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
France332 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-27 10:30:47
June 27 2008 10:28 GMT
#198
Lings keep storming in best base, killing quite a few probes. Sairs are out for best, he kills the scouting overlord, but lux has a spore ready. Lux has killed best's secound assim, so best is sealed in his base. He has a shuttle out that lift zealots behind the assim. Lux had a den, and is now building a spire. A reaver his out for best, and a control group of zealot is heading towards lux.
weiliem
Profile Joined January 2008
2071 Posts
June 27 2008 10:29 GMT
#199
On June 27 2008 19:27 GinNtoniC wrote:
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On June 27 2008 19:20 weiliem wrote:
stop blaming about the map pool pls. if (P)BeSt is really good, the map pool just wont affect him. (Z)Luxury really put out a better performance than (P)BeSt did.

This might be the dumbest comment I've read all week.


u must be the dumbest person i've seen in my whole life
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
June 27 2008 10:30 GMT
#200
On June 27 2008 19:28 Elsi wrote:
lol @ best!

I was almost under the impression that BeSt WANTED Lux to shut down his assimilators - he was teching fast and going for corsair / reaver quickly, so he has access to dropships soon anyway.
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