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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
January 10 2008 10:10 GMT
#181
go anytime!
Studying Chinese~
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 10 2008 10:11 GMT
#182
whos who?
God Hates a Coward
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
January 10 2008 10:12 GMT
#183
oops wheres the casting?
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:12 GMT
#184
Anytime white 9, Kal red 12
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 10 2008 10:12 GMT
#185
On January 10 2008 19:11 Oystein wrote:
whos who?


anytime white
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
January 10 2008 10:12 GMT
#186
Zodiac

Anytime @ 9, Kal @ 12.

Both are going reavers and have their expansions up. Kal attacked earlier, but Anytime won the engagement at his nat due to Kal not focus firing, w/ Anytime ending with 4-5 goons and Kal retreating his 3 weakened ones.
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
January 10 2008 10:12 GMT
#187
check teams in the up thingy

kal is red
anytime white?
Studying Chinese~
jaesung
Profile Joined November 2006
124 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 10:13:30
January 10 2008 10:13 GMT
#188
im pretty sure saviour would had all those thing if he's economy or time to do so, simply couldnt. why blame on saviour's gameplay?

anyways, if saviour made mistakes like what yall said, its done. ruby simply owned him.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2008 10:13 GMT
#189
On January 10 2008 19:08 soccercop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 19:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 19:00 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:57 SigrUn wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:56 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:53 soccercop wrote:
i couldnt see the game live.....didnt he have any lurkers?


I don't think he had an hydra den even.

He really teched very fast, did NOTHING with his mutas except defend an expansion (but losing 5 mutas in the process to about 12 marines, 2 firebats and 4 medics). Then he lost his Defiler Mound, and bad scourge use and Ultralisk use caused him to lose a lot of lisks quickly to irradiate. Ruby then proceeded to roll over.

A few lurkers would ahve been a good idea. I think Savior teched too fast.


The purpose of the build is to skip Lurkers and use that gas for Ultralisks.


Well, I think that in that situation where his harass was totally useless, he shouldn,t have continued on with that. But that's my opinion.

I know about the muta harass => Ultra build. However, if you can't kill a single SCV, try to stay alive before thinking about Ultras. That's where i think Savior made his mistake, in not adapting to Ruby's play and the flow of the game.

Sorry but your opinion us wrong. The harass was not designed to do any damage. Simply it was allow him to get the 4th gas he needed for his ultra/defilier build. Lurkers would have been a HORRIBLE idea. Ruby was going Sk with really quick upgrades. Saviors build was actually really good. It was just poorly executed.



if thats the case, if Savior's mutaslisks did more damage to scvs and marines, the game would have turned the other way? like delaying the push?

No. Saviors build this game did not focus on mutas, the mutas were simply to allow savior to take a 4th gas and transition to Ultras.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2008 10:13 GMT
#190
On January 10 2008 19:13 jaesung wrote:
im pretty sure saviour would had all those thing if he's economy or time to do so, simply couldnt. why blame on saviour's gameplay?

anyways, if saviour made mistakes like what yall said, its done. ruby simply owned him.

You're really irritating.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:14 GMT
#191
Kal's nat destoryed,
dt's standing by,
wait, they are dead.
anytime still reinforce goons
MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
January 10 2008 10:15 GMT
#192
Archives started for Kal, and Anytime with noticeably larger army.

Anytime charges Kal's nat! Probes to defend and both lose their reavers. Kal left with 1 goon and Anytime blasts away at Kal's nat nexus, which is destroyed. Anytime in control now with Kal stuck in his base w/ few units.

Kal had a reaver and dts out, but Anytime manages to snipe the reaver and had well positioned obs, and maintains his control of Kal's ramp.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 10 2008 10:15 GMT
#193
On January 10 2008 19:12 smoke2k wrote:
check teams in the up thingy

kal is red
anytime white?


ah thx, just read the first one and that was all korean, didnt see the STX on red
God Hates a Coward
ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
January 10 2008 10:15 GMT
#194
GG well pld by the winner :D

Studying Chinese~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 10 2008 10:16 GMT
#195
On January 10 2008 19:08 soccercop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 19:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 19:00 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:57 SigrUn wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:56 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:53 soccercop wrote:
i couldnt see the game live.....didnt he have any lurkers?


I don't think he had an hydra den even.

He really teched very fast, did NOTHING with his mutas except defend an expansion (but losing 5 mutas in the process to about 12 marines, 2 firebats and 4 medics). Then he lost his Defiler Mound, and bad scourge use and Ultralisk use caused him to lose a lot of lisks quickly to irradiate. Ruby then proceeded to roll over.

A few lurkers would ahve been a good idea. I think Savior teched too fast.


The purpose of the build is to skip Lurkers and use that gas for Ultralisks.


Well, I think that in that situation where his harass was totally useless, he shouldn,t have continued on with that. But that's my opinion.

I know about the muta harass => Ultra build. However, if you can't kill a single SCV, try to stay alive before thinking about Ultras. That's where i think Savior made his mistake, in not adapting to Ruby's play and the flow of the game.

Sorry but your opinion us wrong. The harass was not designed to do any damage. Simply it was allow him to get the 4th gas he needed for his ultra/defilier build. Lurkers would have been a HORRIBLE idea. Ruby was going Sk with really quick upgrades. Saviors build was actually really good. It was just poorly executed.



if thats the case, if Savior's mutaslisks did more damage to scvs and marines, the game would have turned the other way? like delaying the push?
Yes the game would have turned in saviors favour, but the way it ended both sides were still pretty much equal. If they had done more, then savior would have gotten an advantage depending on the extent of the damage.
The deciding factor of the game was not saviors muta control, it was the loss of the defiler mound (as pointed out by Day very well in his post)
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:16 GMT
#196
[image loading]

um, big battle both lost their reavers.
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MuShu
Profile Joined March 2005
United States3223 Posts
January 10 2008 10:16 GMT
#197
Kal attempts to harass w/ 2 dt and shuttle, but cannon and obs stop it as Anytime uses his reaver to crack Kal's ramp defense of a few goons. As Anytime finishes off the last goons, Kal ggs.

Anytime versus Ruby for winner bracket!

So far:
Ruby > sAviOr
Anytime > Kal

Winners:
Anytime vs Ruby

Losers:
Kal vs sAviOr
dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
January 10 2008 10:17 GMT
#198
WoW really nice game by Anytime, his forces just steamrolled Kal like nothing even though both side lost their reavers.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 10 2008 10:17 GMT
#199
I'm going to go 0/4 at this rate. -.-
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
January 10 2008 10:17 GMT
#200
On January 10 2008 19:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 19:08 soccercop wrote:
On January 10 2008 19:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 19:00 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:57 SigrUn wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:56 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:53 soccercop wrote:
i couldnt see the game live.....didnt he have any lurkers?


I don't think he had an hydra den even.

He really teched very fast, did NOTHING with his mutas except defend an expansion (but losing 5 mutas in the process to about 12 marines, 2 firebats and 4 medics). Then he lost his Defiler Mound, and bad scourge use and Ultralisk use caused him to lose a lot of lisks quickly to irradiate. Ruby then proceeded to roll over.

A few lurkers would ahve been a good idea. I think Savior teched too fast.


The purpose of the build is to skip Lurkers and use that gas for Ultralisks.


Well, I think that in that situation where his harass was totally useless, he shouldn,t have continued on with that. But that's my opinion.

I know about the muta harass => Ultra build. However, if you can't kill a single SCV, try to stay alive before thinking about Ultras. That's where i think Savior made his mistake, in not adapting to Ruby's play and the flow of the game.

Sorry but your opinion us wrong. The harass was not designed to do any damage. Simply it was allow him to get the 4th gas he needed for his ultra/defilier build. Lurkers would have been a HORRIBLE idea. Ruby was going Sk with really quick upgrades. Saviors build was actually really good. It was just poorly executed.



if thats the case, if Savior's mutaslisks did more damage to scvs and marines, the game would have turned the other way? like delaying the push?

No. Saviors build this game did not focus on mutas, the mutas were simply to allow savior to take a 4th gas and transition to Ultras.


i see. it would be great if they allowed the replay to be released so we can see savior's money supply and see if he had money to do something else and change the outcome. But they wont release the replay.
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