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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
January 10 2008 10:01 GMT
#161
On January 10 2008 18:57 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 18:54 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:51 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Savior lost his spire to that drop, hes helpless vs vessel right now=./


He lost 2 evos and a defiler mound, not his spire.

My bad...in that case..why no more scourge savior?=/


Because all his larvae were making lings and ultras and it still wasn't enough to kill the mm? The vessels didn't matter at that point.

Well savior still had some defiliers left over from before his mound went down. He couldve protected them at least long enough to get a swarm or 2 out in front of his nat if he had some scourge. But thats just theorycrafting


No he couldn't. They were at his back expo and irradiated before they even got back to his main. He tried to get a swarm at his outer expo but the last defiler died a second too soon.
I <3 서지훈
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:01 GMT
#162
[image loading]

drop have 12 marines and 2 medics, evo was getting armor and defiler mount wasnt doing anything.
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
January 10 2008 10:01 GMT
#163
wish savior could use the mutalisks more effectively like Jaedong. remembered how Jaedong used mutaliasks to halt Hwasin very much in the game at Tau Cross. that was amazing...if savior could do that.
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
January 10 2008 10:02 GMT
#164
On January 10 2008 19:01 LonelyMargarita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 18:57 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:54 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:52 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:51 LonelyMargarita wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:49 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Savior lost his spire to that drop, hes helpless vs vessel right now=./


He lost 2 evos and a defiler mound, not his spire.

My bad...in that case..why no more scourge savior?=/


Because all his larvae were making lings and ultras and it still wasn't enough to kill the mm? The vessels didn't matter at that point.

Well savior still had some defiliers left over from before his mound went down. He couldve protected them at least long enough to get a swarm or 2 out in front of his nat if he had some scourge. But thats just theorycrafting


No he couldn't. They were at his back expo and irradiated before they even got back to his main. He tried to get a swarm at his outer expo but the last defiler died a second too soon.


I agree
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 10 2008 10:03 GMT
#165
wat is a goojila?
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:03 GMT
#166
wow 2-0, 100%
gtfo, gay STX teammate
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
January 10 2008 10:03 GMT
#167
anch, why are you calling every zerg building a "mount" ?

It's Hydralisk DEN and Defiler MOUND. D'uh.
Complete the cycle!
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2008 10:03 GMT
#168
On January 10 2008 19:00 BlackSphinx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 18:57 SigrUn wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:56 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:53 soccercop wrote:
i couldnt see the game live.....didnt he have any lurkers?


I don't think he had an hydra den even.

He really teched very fast, did NOTHING with his mutas except defend an expansion (but losing 5 mutas in the process to about 12 marines, 2 firebats and 4 medics). Then he lost his Defiler Mound, and bad scourge use and Ultralisk use caused him to lose a lot of lisks quickly to irradiate. Ruby then proceeded to roll over.

A few lurkers would ahve been a good idea. I think Savior teched too fast.


The purpose of the build is to skip Lurkers and use that gas for Ultralisks.


Well, I think that in that situation where his harass was totally useless, he shouldn,t have continued on with that. But that's my opinion.

I know about the muta harass => Ultra build. However, if you can't kill a single SCV, try to stay alive before thinking about Ultras. That's where i think Savior made his mistake, in not adapting to Ruby's play and the flow of the game.

Sorry but your opinion us wrong. The harass was not designed to do any damage. Simply it was allow him to get the 4th gas he needed for his ultra/defilier build. Lurkers would have been a HORRIBLE idea. Ruby was going Sk with really quick upgrades. Saviors build was actually really good. It was just poorly executed.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
jaesung
Profile Joined November 2006
124 Posts
January 10 2008 10:04 GMT
#169
its not poorly excuted, ruby owned him.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
January 10 2008 10:05 GMT
#170
On January 10 2008 19:03 kNyTTyM wrote:
wat is a goojila?


korean for godzilla

구지라 I think.
Commentator
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2008 10:06 GMT
#171
On January 10 2008 19:04 jaesung wrote:
its not poorly excuted, ruby owned him.

It definitely was poorly executed, and therefore ruby owned him...
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 10:07:44
January 10 2008 10:06 GMT
#172
fuck, fuckign WoW.
i typed fast cuz hydra den response was way behind.
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
January 10 2008 10:07 GMT
#173
BlackSphinx

there was very little wrong w/ savior's play that game. muta-->ultra is very standard. savior played completely fine against ruby's opening. savior likes to expand alot and have thin defenses until his momentum can kick in. That is, savior relies heavily on defilers to defend himself and key times. That "key time" was when ruby had 3 bases and the large MnM army at his front and the 2 dships. Savior simply needed to toss some scourge at his back and not lose his defiler mound. had savior kept his defiler mound, he would have been able to fend the front push and then would have had 5 secure gas (6th finished, but not very secure) to pump out very upgraded ultra+ling+defiler.

now THAT would have been scary.

if savior had just kept that mound up, ruby probably would have had some good macro, and eventually lost and everyone would have gone "yup! that's savior"

but, again, who cares.

goooo anytime!!!!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
jaesung
Profile Joined November 2006
124 Posts
January 10 2008 10:07 GMT
#174
i dont see any possible way why it was poorly excuted, when saviour stayed in base for whole time?
ruby simply owned him
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-10 10:09:14
January 10 2008 10:07 GMT
#175
someone update LB pls, I want to see how many trusted Ruby, not me anyway
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
January 10 2008 10:08 GMT
#176
damm GOM TV

still not damm working!

gay piece of shit!!!!

live reports would be <3
Naib
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Hungary4843 Posts
January 10 2008 10:08 GMT
#177
On January 10 2008 19:07 jaesung wrote:
i dont see any possible way why it was poorly excuted because my StarCraft knowledge is not good enough.


Fixed.
Complete the cycle!
soccercop
Profile Joined August 2006
Fiji305 Posts
January 10 2008 10:08 GMT
#178
On January 10 2008 19:03 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2008 19:00 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:57 SigrUn wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:56 BlackSphinx wrote:
On January 10 2008 18:53 soccercop wrote:
i couldnt see the game live.....didnt he have any lurkers?


I don't think he had an hydra den even.

He really teched very fast, did NOTHING with his mutas except defend an expansion (but losing 5 mutas in the process to about 12 marines, 2 firebats and 4 medics). Then he lost his Defiler Mound, and bad scourge use and Ultralisk use caused him to lose a lot of lisks quickly to irradiate. Ruby then proceeded to roll over.

A few lurkers would ahve been a good idea. I think Savior teched too fast.


The purpose of the build is to skip Lurkers and use that gas for Ultralisks.


Well, I think that in that situation where his harass was totally useless, he shouldn,t have continued on with that. But that's my opinion.

I know about the muta harass => Ultra build. However, if you can't kill a single SCV, try to stay alive before thinking about Ultras. That's where i think Savior made his mistake, in not adapting to Ruby's play and the flow of the game.

Sorry but your opinion us wrong. The harass was not designed to do any damage. Simply it was allow him to get the 4th gas he needed for his ultra/defilier build. Lurkers would have been a HORRIBLE idea. Ruby was going Sk with really quick upgrades. Saviors build was actually really good. It was just poorly executed.



if thats the case, if Savior's mutaslisks did more damage to scvs and marines, the game would have turned the other way? like delaying the push?
To defy your destiny makes you indestructible
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
January 10 2008 10:09 GMT
#179
On January 10 2008 19:07 jaesung wrote:
i dont see any possible way why it was poorly excuted, when saviour stayed in base for whole time?
ruby simply owned him

Read day's post.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 10 2008 10:10 GMT
#180
no one care to cast or we too busying reading Savior vs Ruby?
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