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BLinD-RawR
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RogerChillingworth
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Gas Station Terran also a wildebeast and I've always been a fan but if your best friend kills your son he's no longer your best friend, if you know what I'm sayin. Sorry sSak. “THE KEY” already saying he's gonna lose, or perhaps it's 9million-D chess comin out. FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY then hittin'em with some vintage KEY action. Lil muta, lil lurker, lil gfg. I'm on the edge of my seat, the very last millimeter of it, bout to fall off who's gonna catch me. | ||
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gravity
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gravity
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doktordingerdonger
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 24 2026 19:26 RowdierBob wrote: But wtf do I know as always. Lol. I mean all that time you spend floating those rax is time not making marines, this was over for ample the moment the bunker in the main died. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 24 2026 19:28 BLinD-RawR wrote: I mean all that time you spend floating those rax is time not making marines, this was over for ample the moment the bunker in the main died. you say that on hindsight lmao | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22417 Posts
Wonder if he could have saved it if he backed off at that point and just settled for killing the nat hatch. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Ample wasn't going to double down because his main already had a ling problem, he wasn't going to push through a sunk without enough marines that were never going to come. On March 24 2026 19:33 Gorsameth wrote: I was shocked Ample stayed in the main after almost losing all his marines, there is no way you can keep them alive when they are all 1-2 hits from death. Wonder if he could have saved it if he backed off at that point and just settled for killing the nat hatch. this too. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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BLinD-RawR
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On March 24 2026 20:03 BLinD-RawR wrote: Let's be honest, every TvT should automatically be "if you have time". | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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BLinD-RawR
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 24 2026 20:04 RogerChillingworth wrote: Let's be honest, every TvT should automatically be "if you have time". if you think that then you've once again demonstrated, as you have repeatedly over your time here that you know nothing. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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BLinD-RawR
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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gravity
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edit: rip my Reaver | ||
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 24 2026 20:22 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: howtf did that ling survive 2 mines you outrun the explosion while not looking back. Have you never seen a movie before? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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Peeano
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On March 24 2026 20:18 BLinD-RawR wrote: if you think that then you've once again demonstrated, as you have repeatedly over your time here that you know nothing. Calm down dude. People can have different opinions without being subject to random insults. Even a great TvT that goes 40 minutes depends on if you have time. Just by nature of it going long. As most do. I'm so sorry though. I won't post anymore. <3 | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 24 2026 20:34 RogerChillingworth wrote: Calm down dude. People can have different opinions without being subject to random insults. Even a great TvT that goes 40 minutes depends on if you have time. Just by nature of it going long. As most do. I'm so sorry though. I won't post anymore. <3 first off, If I wanted you to stop posting, I'd make it so. the idea of the poll is that people would make the appropriate time for any game if its good(or bad, I know plenty of people who love watching bad games). | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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BLinD-RawR
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On March 24 2026 20:55 Peeano wrote: Damn, another gold medalist got schooled. "Past performance does not guarantee future results" is an edict that hold true in BW just as much as it does in investments. | ||
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TheAceOfHearts
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TMNT
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Peeano
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On March 24 2026 21:00 TMNT wrote: Feels like had JYJ beaten Ample, Soulkey may get eliminated in Ro24. Yes. Now his tournament life is on the line vs Ample. That's still hilarious. | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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BLinD-RawR
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Naib
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edit: OK nvm he is droning behind the ling lurk this time, thank Christ ![]() | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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Peeano
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On March 24 2026 21:00 TheAceOfHearts wrote: I'll note I'm a noob so maybe this is a stupid question, but I always wonder why aren't top terrans more diligent about repairing mechanical units? In the recent JyJ vs Ample game it seemed like JyJ ignored many opportunities to squeeze in additional repairs. For example, his first wraith might've been kept alive longer. Was he down too many SCVs to prioritize repairs? Please let me know if I'm being unreasonably critical of his gameplay. In general you can just hide your hurt one amongst others to squeeze more value out of it. Then your SCV can keep your economy up. Not mining and repairing instead is kind of double eco loss. In either defending or executing a push/all repair can be big tho. Also late game it when resources become scarce and you have an overabundance of SCVs anyway it can become very viable strategy in TvT. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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ample is beyond fucked | ||
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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Gorsameth
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Naib
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Gorsameth
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Naib
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as i type this he just started to expand there but I think it's too late | ||
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Peeano
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BLinD-RawR
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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dude really needs to macro harder | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Naib
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SkelA
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He got out expanded and never really killed the vessels in the end. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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Naib
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Toshinou-Kyouko
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Naib
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Sad to see but Ample played it very well (apart from his loitering tanks throughout the game) despite the early disadvantage, well deserved | ||
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Peeano
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 24 2026 21:29 SkelA wrote: Skey is washed up. He shouldn't lost this game considering the start he had. He got out expanded and never really killed the vessels in the end. Kill the vessel with what? You only get to kill vessel if terran throws them at you | ||
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Gorsameth
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What a turn around. | ||
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 24 2026 19:20 doktordingerdonger wrote: 2 terrans advancing incoming | ||
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Biff The Understudy
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doktordingerdonger
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On March 24 2026 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote: I mean. Ample played reaaaaally great. Infernal macro and relentless aggression. To win against late game zerg with a player like Soulkey, Terrans need to attack everywhere at once, constantly. That’s no small feat. Zerg needs to defend everywhere at once, which is much harder especially if your only equalizer in the game gets one shot by 500 km range that you cannot kill at all. Helps that you can just throw away marines and it doesnt matter. | ||
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Peeano
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On March 24 2026 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote: I mean. Ample played reaaaaally great. Infernal macro and relentless aggression. To win against late game zerg with a player like Soulkey, Terrans need to attack everywhere at once, constantly. That’s no small feat. So many poor micro moments by both players if you ask me, but Ample did not neglect eco and macro. | ||
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Peeano
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Biff The Understudy
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On March 24 2026 21:42 doktordingerdonger wrote: Zerg needs to defend everywhere at once, which is much harder especially if your only equalizer in the game gets one shot by 500 km range that you cannot kill at all. Helps that you can just throw away marines and it doesnt matter. I mean yeah, the matchup is insanely hard for both sides, i wouldn’t say the opposite. I was rooting for Soulkey, but that was damn impressive by Ample. Give SK one minute to stabilize in a position like that and you are history. | ||
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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doktordingerdonger
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The only way terrans actually lose within the first 20 minutes of the matchup is because they lose 30 marines to 12 mutas (which is an art by itself), then proceed to get flooded in the main. This never happens because it must be a fuck up of massive proportion. Meanwhile z can lose at any point at any time in this matchup. The 55% TvZ winrate doesnt tell you the real imbalance which is that z has proceeded to shape the builds and the go-to reactions to perfectly match everything that t throw at them the past 20 years, in order to somehow hopefully come out alive 20-25 minutes in, where terrans possible can lose not because they fuck up once, but because they have been massively outplayed the entire game. This is why you always see complete no name terrans kicking out s-tier zergs from the qualifiers, never the opposite. Ample at some point was chilling with 3k overmins and at no point in this game did it look like if he fucks up just one play, he would insta-lose. Meanwhile it was constant survival for SK despite coming out ahead with guardians, still being behind because of the matchup. SK didnt play impressive enough to win, while Ample only needed to play not to lose, which isn't hard because fucking up as terran is very hard. | ||
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Destroyer
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Biff The Understudy
France8098 Posts
On March 25 2026 00:18 doktordingerdonger wrote: How is it hard for both sides? As z, you can insta lose every 20 seconds in this matchup if you forget to reproduce defiler because 12 vessels that cannot be sniped constantly kill it with a 75 energy spell, can lose if you fuck up not making nydus in time, or defiler, or lurkers, dont have enough lurkers in 5 different positions that the terran can either push you or drop you... As calm said, if zergs lose, they lose in the most pathetic way and it is because you somehow missed some timing, overproduced some unit instead of making more scourges, or lurkers, or defilers, or whatever that can insta lose you the game because they were out of position. The only way terrans actually lose within the first 20 minutes of the matchup is because they lose 30 marines to 12 mutas (which is an art by itself), then proceed to get flooded in the main. This never happens because it must be a fuck up of massive proportion. Meanwhile z can lose at any point at any time in this matchup. The 55% TvZ winrate doesnt tell you the real imbalance which is that z has proceeded to shape the builds and the go-to reactions to perfectly match everything that t throw at them the past 20 years, in order to somehow hopefully come out alive 20-25 minutes in, where terrans possible can lose not because they fuck up once, but because they have been massively outplayed the entire game. This is why you always see complete no name terrans kicking out s-tier zergs from the qualifiers, never the opposite. Ample at some point was chilling with 3k overmins and at no point in this game did it look like if he fucks up just one play, he would insta-lose. Meanwhile it was constant survival for SK despite coming out ahead with guardians, still being behind because of the matchup. SK didnt play impressive enough to win, while Ample only needed to play not to lose, which isn't hard because fucking up as terran is very hard. The last five ASL have been won by Zerg. | ||
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Vasoline73
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Simplistik
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On March 24 2026 20:32 Peeano wrote: lmao Soulkey... It's so ugly to see a 4 gold medalist get owned like this by sSak sSak won SSL10 I'll have you know... | ||
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seodoth
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Lazyer
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polgas
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gravity
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Simplistik
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On March 25 2026 16:40 gravity wrote: I went to bed early thinking Soulkey would win the final, guess he really is out of touch. To be honest, I don't think he played that bad. Ample was really on it and played one of the best ASL games of his life. | ||
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iopq
United States1106 Posts
On March 25 2026 05:24 Biff The Understudy wrote: The last five ASL have been won by Zerg. Because the said Zerg didn't make many mistakes vs. the Terran opponents doesn't help at my level where we both make lots of mistakes, but Terran's mistakes don't lose him the game, but my mistakes do | ||
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TMNT
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On March 25 2026 11:52 seodoth wrote: Soulkey holding on with 100 supply vs max out Ample for 20 minutes... I couldn't tell whether this was Ample being a bit wasteful and not focus firing things correctly like at the 5 'o clock, or Soulkey defending very well. Still it does feel like bullshit Terran seems to have no tools to break through Zerg with such an overwhelming advantage. Think it was mostly Ample being wasteful. Better Terrans would have closed the game out way earlier with that lead. I'm not sure but maybe making 12 Firebats would have helped. Anyway can some Zerg specialists here give an analysis as to how Soulkey lost the game? Eon where are you? It feels like during the game most of us were so sure that Ample was screwed once he got soft Lurker contained, and when the dropship was caught by Muta, and when the first Terran push was destroyed with Guardians,... but then Ample basically just retreated, took a base, another base, macro'd up and attacked and attacked. In Artosis' words, he just made units and attacked lol. For me it feels like Soulkey was being too fancy with his build. Lurker, then back to Muta, then Guardian and Defiler at the same time. Like a little bit of everything, enough to surprise the Terran but not enough to actually fight back let alone kill him. That's why he spent the whole game defending. | ||
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Postalpj
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On March 25 2026 16:59 iopq wrote: Because the said Zerg didn't make many mistakes vs. the Terran opponents doesn't help at my level where we both make lots of mistakes, but Terran's mistakes don't lose him the game, but my mistakes do At your level you can practice micro maps and roll Terran over with mutas | ||
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ruhtraeel
Canada134 Posts
On March 24 2026 21:35 Peeano wrote: I imagine Best and Snow were rubbing their hands and licking their lips during those last 2 minutes. Snow for sure Best is decent against Z and T so it probably doesn't matter as much to him, if he gets matched against P though he's screwed | ||
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D_lux
Hungary65 Posts
On March 24 2026 20:22 Toshinou-Kyouko wrote: howtf did that ling survive 2 mines I haven’t played in a billion years, and not sure what happened here but two things come to mind that can happen: 1.: A ling can outrun a mine. The mine explodes and the ling makes enough distance so the ling doesn’t instantly die. 2.: Spidermines can friendly fire. This includes other mines. When more than one mine is moving close to each other if one mine decides to explode first it can take out other mines near it. Those other mines will sometimes look like they also exploded but in reality they were just killed and they don’t do any damage. So if 1. and 2. happen together than it might look like the ling survived two mines exploding in its butt. | ||
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goody153
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I was convinced it was gonna be Soulkey and JyJ who would make it out | ||
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Highways
Australia6119 Posts
Surely Snow is favourite | ||
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Crimson)S(hadow
Philippines717 Posts
On April 01 2026 10:15 Highways wrote: Why so many Terran's in this tournament? Surely Snow is favourite because we had the first non-terran bonjwa in ages win 4 ASLs in a row, then after that soma won an ASL, now they put tesagi maps to penalize us for dominating when flash was absent to balance things out | ||
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Sad to see but Ample played it very well (apart from his loitering tanks throughout the game) despite the early disadvantage, well deserved