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Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines679 Posts
August 18 2025 12:45 GMT
#61
Rooting for sharp next
Yuru Yuri best anime
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines679 Posts
August 18 2025 12:47 GMT
#62
back to the elon map we go
Yuru Yuri best anime
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3351 Posts
August 18 2025 13:01 GMT
#63
On August 18 2025 21:40 konadora wrote:
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On August 18 2025 21:04 TMNT wrote:
On August 18 2025 20:57 konadora wrote:
On August 18 2025 20:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On August 18 2025 20:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
screaming sea already paying in spades I see. finally watching thanks for covering for me Toshinou-Kyouko


This is why, in any RTS, pros must be forced to play on weird maps that change the shape of the game. Also why BW is uniquely placed in how heavily maps play a role.



agreed. really hate how majority of the pro players have the biggest say in what maps get played. and really hated how death valley was banned to hell in the last ASL too.

You also have to take into account balance issues.

It's fun for viewers to watch one or two games where you can see unique strategies or units that have never been used, but it's not fair for players if such maps have 75/25 win ratio. If you keep that for long terms, then games on such maps will actually end up with one race cheesing the other to get the game end asap.

its fine if its just one tournament, i wouldn't have wanted death valley on more than one ASL, but at least for that one ASL, it should have lots of games played, not seeing its first play in a Ro8 lol

also isnt this a real time strategy? i love seeing pros find creative ways to beat maps, such as Flash's infamous cheese against Bisu on Monty Hall, or celebrating first matchup wins on maps such as Battle Royale (lol)

if i wanted to see same build over and over again, we should only be playing fighting spirit and thats it

How can you have lots of games played on an unbalanced map before Ro8 when the format is Bo1 or Bo3 though? That's exactly why players ban it in group stage: if my advancement depends on 1 single game, it better be on an even playing field.

And it can't be "just one tournament" either. This time it's Death Valley, next time it'll be Monty Hall, next time it'll be Roaring currents,... meaning one race will always be absent in Ro16 of each tournament. Then it's a bad tournament.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13506 Posts
August 18 2025 13:06 GMT
#64
Ample just A moving around without a care in the world -_-
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51480 Posts
August 18 2025 13:07 GMT
#65
I feel like every other group is going to make up for Group D's runtime.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines679 Posts
August 18 2025 13:20 GMT
#66
gg out already ample sharp pretty much has your number
Yuru Yuri best anime
pseudosignal
Profile Joined May 2025
46 Posts
August 18 2025 13:24 GMT
#67
Larva messing up my BW League picks and predictions but otherwise things went as expected. Great showing from Ample.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51480 Posts
August 18 2025 13:26 GMT
#68
Poll: Recommend Final Game?

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(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51480 Posts
August 18 2025 13:26 GMT
#69
fun start to the season
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
August 18 2025 13:35 GMT
#70
On August 18 2025 19:10 nikolaus8844 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2025 18:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I got pulled into a meeting, someone make polls.



Poll: Who would you rather have casting live in English?

Arto and Tasteless (20)
 
49%

any duo that includes Nyoken really (13)
 
32%

Nyoken and the big Gyp (7)
 
17%

Nyoken all alone (1)
 
2%

Nyoken and Eonzerg (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Who would you rather have casting live in English?

(Vote): Arto and Tasteless
(Vote): Nyoken and the big Gyp
(Vote): Nyoken and Eonzerg
(Vote): any duo that includes Nyoken really
(Vote): Nyoken all alone


How ridiculous. The ASL patreon only generates $132,000 per year before fees. You can't expect them to do it live unless you double that.
Toshinou-Kyouko
Profile Joined November 2024
Philippines679 Posts
August 18 2025 15:01 GMT
#71
games were ok, the larva ones were ofc the matches of the night especially against sharp in roaring currents.

glad to see larva really proving us doubters wrong and getting into ro16. gratz to sharp for making it as well.
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RogueTheGOAT
Profile Joined July 2025
166 Posts
August 18 2025 15:04 GMT
#72
As a casual fan, maps like Uldolmok/Roaring Currents/Screaming Sea (people need to decide on a single name since all 3 have been used in this thread which could be confusing to people who don't know that they're the same map) are the best part of ASL. The BW meta game has had decades of development, but outside of a few, revolutionary changes, most of that has been optimizing how to get into the same, standard mid game. Players can't use standard strategies if the map isn't standard which makes the game more interesting and unpredictable.

On the game we saw on it, Sharp had some good ideas, but the execution was severely lacking at times. Maybe that's how the map would always play out in TvZ with those particular builds, but I doubt it.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5903 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-18 19:12:39
August 18 2025 16:14 GMT
#73
I expected Stork to bomb out, but losing to Ample is a new low to me. Yeah, yeah, anything can happen in Bo1, but it's also still a loss to Ample lmao
FBH #1!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4177 Posts
August 18 2025 17:46 GMT
#74
Its tricky with these kinds of maps. Death Valley arguably made Soulkey a champion, in two series where he was equally matched, he had a Death Valley free win in both of them
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-18 18:42:42
August 18 2025 18:42 GMT
#75
Larva can really bust out great lategames on his good days. Game vs Stork was a mess tho (from both sides), yet still exciting.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9824 Posts
August 18 2025 19:49 GMT
#76
Too bad for stork fans, 0-2 in this group was not the result anyone was expecting.

Larva made me feel silly for doubting him, dang lmao
boomer hands
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3556 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-18 20:01:28
August 18 2025 19:56 GMT
#77
On August 18 2025 21:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Looking like a pretty lean season for protosses.


It s not too surprising tbh. Ss1nz was the future but got himself banned. Jangbi and kal are out, free didn't get back his old self. Rain is playing lol.

We have realistically 3 players: mini, snow and best. And mini s style makes it volatile in a tournament. Bisu below those 3 in general. And that s basically that.

Then a big gap and a slew of ok P like motive, movie, tulbo, shuttle etc but they re not gonna make it far when they even qualify.

Hoping the afrotoss shows us some fun stuff but we re looking at a 4 P ro16 in a good scenario...
Horang2 fan
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
August 18 2025 20:09 GMT
#78
On August 19 2025 04:56 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2025 21:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Looking like a pretty lean season for protosses.


It s not too surprising tbh. Ss1nz was the future but got himself banned. Jangbi and kal are out, free didn't get back his old self. Rain is playing lol.

We have realistically 3 players: mini, snow and best. And mini s style makes it volatile in a tournament. Bisu below those 3 in general. And that s basically that.

Then a big gap and a slew of ok P like motive, movie, tulbo, shuttle etc but they re not gonna make it far when they even qualify.

Hoping the afrotoss shows us some fun stuff but we re looking at a 4 P ro16 in a good scenario...


Why did ss1nz get banned?
Life is just life
ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States741 Posts
August 18 2025 20:48 GMT
#79
On August 18 2025 19:10 nikolaus8844 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2025 18:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I got pulled into a meeting, someone make polls.



Poll: Who would you rather have casting live in English?

Arto and Tasteless (20)
 
49%

any duo that includes Nyoken really (13)
 
32%

Nyoken and the big Gyp (7)
 
17%

Nyoken all alone (1)
 
2%

Nyoken and Eonzerg (0)
 
0%

41 total votes

Your vote: Who would you rather have casting live in English?

(Vote): Arto and Tasteless
(Vote): Nyoken and the big Gyp
(Vote): Nyoken and Eonzerg
(Vote): any duo that includes Nyoken really
(Vote): Nyoken all alone



Namkraft.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3556 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-08-18 22:36:41
August 18 2025 21:02 GMT
#80
On August 19 2025 05:09 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2025 04:56 WGT-Baal wrote:
On August 18 2025 21:39 RowdierBob wrote:
Looking like a pretty lean season for protosses.


It s not too surprising tbh. Ss1nz was the future but got himself banned. Jangbi and kal are out, free didn't get back his old self. Rain is playing lol.

We have realistically 3 players: mini, snow and best. And mini s style makes it volatile in a tournament. Bisu below those 3 in general. And that s basically that.

Then a big gap and a slew of ok P like motive, movie, tulbo, shuttle etc but they re not gonna make it far when they even qualify.

Hoping the afrotoss shows us some fun stuff but we re looking at a 4 P ro16 in a good scenario...


Why did ss1nz get banned?


Smurfing afaik. Or account sharing? One of the 2
Horang2 fan
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