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Hope best wins but pretty sure Light will. | ||
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Or is best the storm that is approaching Provoking black clouds in isolation Here to Bury the Light? | ||
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Light is playing smart though. Don't think I've seen him lose an Arbiter game for at least a few months. | ||
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On May 12 2025 19:57 Terrorbladder wrote: yeah the recall was nice but they were mostly just stuck in that corner shooting buildings while siege tanks shelled them. That was quite the three-pronged attack, but the only real loss that Light took was the SCVs at 6 o'clock. And as a result he didn't have the army left to hold back the push at his door | ||
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Honestly feels like Best is playing poorly. Should still win this map | ||
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Pretty good macro by Best. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/DjTPS9x.png) | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:23 oxKnu wrote: That last game was extremely satisfying to watch as a Protoss in PvT. No, you don't get to upgrade and then slowly attack each base with 3 tanks and 2 vultures. Fuck off. lmao | ||
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M2
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Even if Light turns it, you still nailed it | ||
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I was pretty wrong about some other stuff though haha. | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:52 oxKnu wrote: I'm talking about the engagement at the natural. The replay looked the same.. sorry, thought you would be talking about throwing away goons for free, nvm | ||
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light should've waited for mines before making that push | ||
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exciting series that went all 7 games!! | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:55 konadora wrote: DO-MEN!!!!!!!!!!! another miracle, doh-men. | ||
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I mean Best deserves to win, basically he choked at least two games. Light was pretty poor overall, kind of played waiting for mistakes, which I guess it's not a bad idea against Best, but he will probably kick himself over this series. | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:57 BLinD-RawR wrote: man, I was really pulling for light because I don't even want the chance of a PvP finals and I don't think BeSt can beat soulkey, but here we are. who beats SK at this point lol would rather a PvP than Soulkey at the finals again tbh, but at least it's not a ZvZ lol | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:58 konadora wrote: who beats SK at this point lol would rather a PvP than Soulkey at the finals again tbh, but at least it's not a ZvZ lol I don't trust snow, last season he was in this spot and got roflstomped 0-4. | ||
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Pray that the finals is not Snow vs Best. They played a final a few days ago and it was not pretty. PvP is high-key Best's worst match-up. The final with Soulkey would probably provide at least a couple of good games. | ||
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konadora
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On May 12 2025 22:02 oxKnu wrote: Seems to have been an emotional hurdle of epic proportions getting to the finals. I'm glad at least that is over. Pray that the finals is not Snow vs Best. They played a final a few days ago and it was not pretty. PvP is high-key Best's worst match-up. The final with Soulkey would probably provide at least a couple of good games. yeah he talked about the mental burden and stress of not making it to ASL finals and always being the laughing stock for the last 19 seasons | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't trust snow, last season he was in this spot and got roflstomped 0-4. as in i would rather a PvP than a Best vs SK because I feel like SK is the best player rn and would just 4-0 or 4-1 again | ||
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On May 12 2025 21:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: I don't trust snow, last season he was in this spot and got roflstomped 0-4. 4:0 or 4:1 are the most likely results for SK vs anyone Bo7 series atm imo. Perhaps only Snow could possibly make it more competitive | ||
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On May 12 2025 22:07 Peeano wrote: Best has more chance in a Bo7 vs Soulkey than Snow imo. Especially if Soulkey is forced to show his hand a round before. Not on these maps BUT I do agree, Best is pretty good in PvZ. People haven't updated their old preconceptions on how he fares in that match-up. Snow vs Best PvP in a bo7 is a bigger gap than Best vs Soulkey, on ok-ish maps. | ||
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In terms of results this is the best ASL in years, in terms of seeing amazing games maybe not so much (yet?) | ||
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On May 12 2025 22:20 Peeano wrote: Throw by Light, but perhaps he had little gas left in the tank for a big game or he just gambled. Either way congrats to Best. In terms of results this is the best ASL in years, in terms of seeing amazing games maybe not so much (yet?) I wonder if stamina is a factor. Best seemed to have more (nervous) energy than Light from about game 5 onwards. | ||
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On May 12 2025 22:11 CicadaSC wrote: what a throw from light. light should have gone for a longer game since best was nervous. i mean, beating him with 2 fac would have been nice like u beat him in map 1 but honestly map 1 was a fluke, best simply needed to pull back more once his obs was out no need for those mines to connect on goons. either way, seeing bests emotion i am happy for him, though i dont see him touching soulkey. Short game sounds better to me in the context of nervousness, it creates a fast and strong pressure spike, while a longer game allows more room for the players to gather themselves. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
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He looks pretty unstoppable once he starts taking the map and gets into his flow state but making it there is a whole different story. Game 1 and game 6 are especially head scratchers, where he had it in the bag but then decided to rock some serious 4 AM taco bell extra cayenne to maximize the incredibly moist and powerful bed shitting that was to come. That said, a Best vs Soulkey finals could be amazing. It'd be sick to see Best pick Soulkey up by the collar like Darth did to that guy who might've had the death star plans and throw his BITCH ASS against the wall like an old bag of russets. Go Best. ilu too soulkey | ||
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On May 13 2025 00:47 Soft_General_5023 wrote: seems that terran struggles vs p nowadays, i wonder if it is going to be reflected in next asl maps Fear not for the God shall return next season | ||
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prosatan
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Rip LB tho... | ||
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On May 13 2025 00:05 RogerChillingworth wrote: Best really does look sick when he loses. It's like he shits the bed but doesn't stop and so he rises up on his shit until he's crushed between his own mountain of shit and the ceiling. He looks pretty unstoppable once he starts taking the map and gets into his flow state but making it there is a whole different story. Game 1 and game 6 are especially head scratchers, where he had it in the bag but then decided to rock some serious 4 AM taco bell extra cayenne to maximize the incredibly moist and powerful bed shitting that was to come. That said, a Best vs Soulkey finals could be amazing. It'd be sick to see Best pick Soulkey up by the collar like Darth did to that guy who might've had the death star plans and throw his BITCH ASS against the wall like an old bag of russets. Go Best. ilu too soulkey If you had to compare BeSt to a dinosaur, what would it be and when | ||
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On May 13 2025 03:36 TornadoSteve wrote: If you had to compare BeSt to a dinosaur, what would it be and when I know what you're asking, and it's like that scene from jurassic park where Newman drops the can of whipped cream filled with dino eggs into the river before a face off with the spitter dino. BeSt is both Newman and the spitter, the ultimate auroboros of StarCraft. One moment he's a rapacious mankiller that unfurls horrifying webbing from his face and spits acid, the next moment he's a fat guy who can't drive and just dies there in the rain right before a huge payday. Not saying BeSt is fat—or that there's anything wrong with fat or being fat—in fact, you could easily argue that he (or anyone, or everyone) is quite fit and handsome. I would. But he definitely shapeshifts into Newman on occasion and Newman's a bit bigger. It isn't even Newman's weight that kills him anyway, but the rain in that scene and his glasses that keep getting wet and fogging up. Luckily, even when BeSt is in his Newman form, he's at least wearing contacts so he avoids that whole thing. But still shits himself. But BeSt is probably an Allosaurus. When? IDK, tomorrow. Maybe a year ago. Or maybe a Spinosaurus. I'm changing my answer to Spinosaurus. | ||
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On May 13 2025 05:29 Uldridge wrote: Do you think Best will assume the foetal position or enter a fugue state Somehow still my favorite OSL finals :D Happy for Best. Met him once ages ago on a Korea trip after a Proleague game, the nicest guy  . He is at it since so long, would be cool if he finally wins a big one (I highly doubt it tho...). | ||
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On May 13 2025 05:29 Uldridge wrote: Do you think Best will assume the foetal position or enter a fugue state I heard JulyZerg will be taking the place of the interviewer for the finals. | ||
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Simplistik
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On May 13 2025 07:44 NovaTheFeared wrote: Congrats to Best. Is this his first star league final since remastered? It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008. Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all? | ||
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Simplistik
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On May 13 2025 08:28 BisuDagger wrote: I heard JulyZerg will be taking the place of the interviewer for the finals. Man that would be some insane mindgames-comedy... | ||
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Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0 | ||
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On May 13 2025 08:28 Simplistik wrote: It's his first final since EVER OSL in 2008. Which makes me wonder... Did he play in the Sonic leagues at all? He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago  StarCastTV/Star League/4 | ||
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On May 13 2025 10:29 Highways wrote: Best winning is the worst result. Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0 I don't know. Light hasn't really convinced me. He seems to lose his way in the later stages of tournaments a bit. Guess what I'm saying is that he might've gotten smashed by SK too. | ||
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On May 13 2025 10:29 Highways wrote: Best winning is the worst result. Either gonna be a PvP final or Soulkey will smash him 4-0 | ||
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On May 13 2025 02:58 prosatan wrote: I am so happy for Best !!! Rip LB tho... Exactly my feeling LOL | ||
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On May 13 2025 11:11 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: He was in the QSEN starcasttv starleague finals vs snow just a few days ago https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/StarCastTV/Star_League/4 OK, but it's not a top tournament. | ||
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Really glad for him. | ||
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Peeano
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Best didn't play in anything hosted by Sonic nor did he play in China afaik back when Savior, Movie. Sea(?) and some others did. | ||
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On May 13 2025 18:42 Peeano wrote: Best didn't play in anything hosted by Sonic nor did he play in China afaik back when Savior, Movie. Sea(?) and some others did. Best made it to three starcast tour finals, which pretty much have all the asl players. also made castermuse 4 final, which also has the entire asl roster. | ||
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SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since. Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit. Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit. Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work. My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history. | ||
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Light would get stomped by both SK and Snow. Best would have a better chance against SK at least, even if he'd have a worse chance against Snow | ||
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On May 14 2025 22:48 Peeano wrote: Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years. SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since. Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit. Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit. Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work. My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history. best is also known for having a huge D... which makes him even a bigger outlier inbetween korean gamers... | ||
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On May 15 2025 18:08 XenOsky wrote: best is also known for having a huge D... which makes him even a bigger outlier inbetween korean gamers... I thought that was a trademark only belonged to RapiD | ||
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On May 14 2025 22:48 Peeano wrote: Simplistic is talking also Sonic Starleague, sponsored by Sinbalfarm and later Sbenu both shoe companies Sonic was a CEO of before ASL and KSL were hosted. This time was basically not that long after the infamous Savior and co. matchfixing scandal, SC2 and Blizzard drama that forced BW underground for years. SSL essentially picked up a dead torch that was dropped by OSL and MSL back then because BW was so tainted and rekindled it, making it a bit better and more immersive each season, but abruptly ended when news hit of Sonic being involved in tax fraud shenanigans (like driving in a Ferrari). Sonic wasn't heard of since. Then likes of Britney, Zeus, Ginyu and Terror hosted some tournaments before ASL and KSL finally came about. I believe Britney (and Terror) became quite the big time streamer(s) then. Then somewhere in 2017 Kim Carrier got involved in some sex related scandal like trying to market some porn using his fame gained from being a BW caster giving BW another hit. Also RapiD got unmasked not long after that, who appeared again years later again, to fuck over BSL, which we can basically thank Rus_Brain for, but that doesn't affect the Korean scene one bit. Anyway without Sonic I really doubt if Korea would have a BW scene at all today, so he's an important figure in its history. He did god's work, unfortunately not clean work. My response to Simplistic is saying BeSt (afaik) is as clean as it gets, in terms of not being relatable to anything bad/unethical/shady like matching fixing, tax fraud, coin scandal, sex scandal, cheating, nor losing large sums of money, etc. etc. which is almost surprising tbh. Best is like saint with a clean sheet. Hope he wins ASL and writes some amazing history. I wasn't even thinking of the scandals. Just that the most prestigious tournaments were SSL. What did Best do during that time? Stream? | ||
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ImbaTosS
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Best seems like such a momentum player. Like, even when Light was 2 up, I was still thinking "yeah but Best could well have won these games, and it still feels like momentum is in his favour!". Something about him. It's also been very interesting this season to see the BO7 format actually pay off! | ||
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I've watched every premier starleague since. It is crazy that I finally get to see Best in a finals again, my god I am rooting for him! And even though the series was 4-3, I think Best played a lot better and it was a well deserved win! It didn't feel like 4-3, so I was so nervous going into the last game. | ||
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