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[SSL Autumn] Ro8 Day 4
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BLinD-RawR
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Either way, come on Sharp, you need to save the SOOP! | ||
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HOLYBATS
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On October 15 2024 17:39 TMNT wrote: Funny that no one said anything about PvP. But I guess the reason is that no one thinks Snow and Rain can both make it. And SK is a huge favorite. | ||
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Zergxhx
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oEkY
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Sharp > Hero Sharp > Rain Sharp < Snow At least that is what i'm hoping for... | ||
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Simplistik
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On October 15 2024 18:53 oEkY wrote: Sharp ended up as ASL1 finalist and lost against Protoss and that is going to happen again in S(oop)SL1 Sharp > Hero Sharp > Rain Sharp < Snow At least that is what i'm hoping for... Very interesting prediction! | ||
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On October 15 2024 19:26 RowdierBob wrote: Weird build from Hero. That was way too easy. Overpool is just very middle of the road. And then it's hard to recover the economy. | ||
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Simplistik
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Twelve-hatch, twelve-pool vs eight rax. | ||
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RowdierBob
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On October 15 2024 19:40 Simplistik wrote: Maybe hero pulled too much against the 8-rax? His sunk timing has been off both games and the base trade decision was poor in hindsight. He never had enough mutas to win. | ||
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Kaal
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Highgamer
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+ Show Spoiler + I wonder why he didn't go for the 3rd tho where he'd have two angles to attack. Sunkens in the nat + lings would always have been up. Now early 3rd. Long game incoming. Damn! What an anti-timing on that drop. 4th up tho. | ||
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Simplistik
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From a fairly poor position, Sharp played fairly well against ultra defiler, so maybe there's hope for a proper long game? | ||
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SCRVN
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On October 15 2024 20:33 Simplistik wrote: Like all the players are afraid to play standard. If you don't win, your enemy will win. If you don't cheese, your enemy will cheese! | ||
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gravity
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RowdierBob
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You get maybe one of two good timings against the Zerg with that build and hero was too good. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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PvP still in play. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Gorsameth
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On October 15 2024 21:13 BLinD-RawR wrote: and thank god for thatWe will not have a ZvZ finals PvP still in play. | ||
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Simplistik
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Kraekkling
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On October 15 2024 21:14 Simplistik wrote: Nice game, shows why we need more island maps. Three-port wraith. Yea we need more maps where one race gets to do interesting and surprising stuff while the other gets handicapped. | ||
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prosatan
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On October 15 2024 21:13 HOLYBATS wrote: Congrats Sharp! 4/4 LB on R8. No zvz either. 1 / 4 for me HOLYBATS  And i missed the games too I'll watch them later .... | ||
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Kraekkling
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On October 15 2024 22:21 Rainalcar wrote: So what would be the zerg counter to 3 port, assuming it's not scouted, which it can't really be? IMO the main issue was that Hero made scourge as soon as his spire finished, and they got microed to death. He popped those scourge because he didn’t have the minerals for mutas, which happened because he had to make and cancel buildings to save drones, plus moving drones around to try and keep them alive. To answer your question, Zerg has to play conservatively until it’s ruled out that something like the 3port build is incoming. You can get burrow pre-emptively so it’s ready shortly after the first wraiths hit, which lets you save your drones; if the wraiths never come, you can just cancel burrow. Or, you could delay your third hatch to make sure you have the minerals to pop 6 mutas when the spire finishes. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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On October 15 2024 22:48 prosatan wrote: 1 / 4 for me HOLYBATS And i missed the games too I'll watch them later .... Don't give up.It is time for R4! | ||
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prosatan
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We got this!!   | ||
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kaspa84
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On October 15 2024 18:53 oEkY wrote: Sharp ended up as ASL1 finalist and lost against Protoss and that is going to happen again in S(oop)SL1 Sharp > Hero Sharp > Rain Sharp < Snow At least that is what i'm hoping for... So he lost to Shuttle plays back then and now will lose to shuttle plays? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
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On October 16 2024 08:22 RowdierBob wrote: Best ro4 we could’ve hoped for. All races represented, no prospect of a TvT or ZvZ final, and SK going for a three peat. Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP. | ||
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Lazyer
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RogerChillingworth
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Overall, this season has been fairly low-key outside of Speed's surprising performance. Some disappointing results from my ro16 hopefuls including Mini and Jaedong, and then Light ate his own socks. As much as I love SoulKey and think he's heavily favored against everyone, I'd love to see Sharp take it all. Not even a huge Sharpie fan, just think it'd be hype. And SoulKey get's a silver. Something tells me that if Sharp were to win, he'd subsequently fade into the mist like Larva did. | ||
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avanhokie
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On October 16 2024 09:11 Biff The Understudy wrote: Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP. We've already had mediocre TvT's several times in the last few finals I'll pass on the potential Light vs Sharp or Rush thanks. | ||
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avanhokie
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On October 15 2024 21:17 Kraekkling wrote: Yea we need more maps where one race gets to do interesting and surprising stuff while the other gets handicapped. I agree watching Zerg lose is pretty fun | ||
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NoS-Craig
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
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On October 16 2024 14:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: Think it's fair to say this was the best Ro8 match? Overall, this season has been fairly low-key outside of Speed's surprising performance. Some disappointing results from my ro16 hopefuls including Mini and Jaedong, and then Light ate his own socks. As much as I love SoulKey and think he's heavily favored against everyone, I'd love to see Sharp take it all. Not even a huge Sharpie fan, just think it'd be hype. And SoulKey get's a silver. Something tells me that if Sharp were to win, he'd subsequently fade into the mist like Larva did. The matches have generally been fast. Speed had matches that went on longer and he was able to show off :p. also we got 3 of last season's semi finalists back in the semi finals. I think thats a first? | ||
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Simplistik
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On October 16 2024 21:07 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote: The matches have generally been fast. Speed had matches that went on longer and he was able to show off :p. also we got 3 of last season's semi finalists back in the semi finals. I think thats a first? Not quite a first, but not in a while. Semifinalists: ASL11: Mini, Larva, herO, Queen ASL12: Mini, Rush, herO, Queen ASL9: Light, Queen, Soma, Flash ASL10: Larva, Queen, Soma, Flash | ||
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Simplistik
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On October 16 2024 09:11 Biff The Understudy wrote: Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP. We had two TvT finals recently, and one of them really didn't deliver. | ||
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Nirli
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mtcn77
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On October 15 2024 23:18 Katkishka wrote: It's a good time to be a Sharp fan for the first time in forever It is a bitter sweet victory. Go old school pros Snow, Sharp, (Action)! | ||
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Cricketer12
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Seriously well played to Sharp. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey639 Posts
On October 15 2024 20:33 Sorusaba wrote: HerO too all-in with the mutas, then paid the price by getting denied his third and eventually choked out of the game Have you noticed them mentioning Sharp exercises and Hero drinks for fun during the interviews? Married life will soon will become a prime determinant for victory in the finals. Sharp is being humble paying respects to dear wife and being awarded handsomely for it. | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey639 Posts
On October 18 2024 04:01 Cricketer12 wrote: Wraith vs Z might be my favorite thing ever. Seriously well played to Sharp. Certainly JyJ has started it in 76, I haven't seen a scarier build to be honest. What has the zerg to offer? It is one of those old school builds Tastosis dismiss being 2007 and all that jibber jabber, however decisive. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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Soulkey 31% Snow 23% Rain 24% Sharp 22% | ||
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goody153
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Wraith final was so based. He fumbled initially meeting the scourges but the next time he just microed against it. It was perfect | ||
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Simplistik
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On October 18 2024 20:16 TornadoSteve wrote: My personal % on the semi-finals, whats yours ? Soulkey 31% Snow 23% Rain 24% Sharp 22% Kinda similar. I also think SK is th overall favourite and Rain has an edge of Sharp. I find it very hard to judge the relative odds for Snow/SK vs the other two opponents. Snow is favoured over Sharp, but even-ish against Rain? SK is favoured over Rain (ZvP), but not as much favoured over Sharp? | ||
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mtcn77
Turkey639 Posts
Don't know about the other match-ups. Both Rain and Sharp seem they are playing rock solid to me. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
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On October 18 2024 20:16 TornadoSteve wrote: My personal % on the semi-finals, whats yours ? Soulkey 31% Snow 23% Rain 24% Sharp 22% Soulkey 45% SnOw 25% Rain 16% Sharp 14% | ||
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prion_
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On October 18 2024 20:16 TornadoSteve wrote: My personal % on the semi-finals, whats yours ? Soulkey 31% Snow 23% Rain 24% Sharp 22% Soulkey 33.255% Snow 20.387% Rain 26.718% Sharp 19.64% | ||
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bochs
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On October 18 2024 20:45 Simplistik wrote: Kinda similar. I also think SK is th overall favourite and Rain has an edge of Sharp. I find it very hard to judge the relative odds for Snow/SK vs the other two opponents. Snow is favoured over Sharp, but even-ish against Rain? SK is favoured over Rain (ZvP), but not as much favoured over Sharp? Sharp's chance against SK is 20% at best. | ||
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HOLYBATS
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Simplistik
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Last season the semis were great, especially the SK-Snow series. Can't wait! | ||
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Navane
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And then we have a finals worthy semi on one bracket, and sharp vs rain in the other. Is rain the heavy favorite after his latest comp stomp? Sharp was the underdog vs hero, his homework vs rains disgusting talent has to give fireworks. | ||
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Nirli
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Barneyk
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On October 15 2024 21:03 RowdierBob wrote: Sharp had an option to go mech or mass rax after the wraith scout and he chose poorly. Vultures and mines would’ve dominated that build. If he had done a mech switch HerO can just freely expand everywhere and make a dozen hatcheries. I mean, he basically did that anyway. But the mech switch wouldn't have saved him, | ||
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TMNT
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On October 20 2024 03:54 Nirli wrote: People rating Snow so high right now might've been watching some other tournament. Even Sharp can beat Snow in their current forms. Getting 0-4'd from Royal a couple of days ago, and not the first time in recent month. Used to 8-1 or 9-0 him last year. Don't know what caused the massive upturn recently. But in general Protoss for sure is struggling against Terran. | ||
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TornadoSteve
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Sharp should be the clear favorite, but he's not better than Rush, even in TvsP, is he? Rain's weakest match up vs Sharp's strongest match up, and Sharp is in better shape right now... Let's be honest, Rain sweeped Rush mostly with BO wins... Sharp in 6. | ||
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Nirli
Bulgaria378 Posts
On October 20 2024 05:36 TMNT wrote: Getting 0-4'd from Royal a couple of days ago, and not the first time in recent month. Used to 8-1 or 9-0 him last year. Don't know what caused the massive upturn recently. But in general Protoss for sure is struggling against Terran. Didn't he just have a second baby? First few weeks are rather terrible. Bad timing. | ||
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Barneyk
Sweden310 Posts
And it is weird, I am used to rooting against him, I am a protoss main and usually root for protoss players. And I get so annoyed when they keep letting Sharps vultures kill their workers, everytime! That is Sharps superpower in TvP, if you play against Sharp, tighten up your vulture defense, make an extra cannon or two. It is so frustrating to see Protoss players lose against something so predictable! Adapt to you opponent! You can out-macro and out-scale Sharp even if you spend some extra minerals on a few extra cannons! But I've also liked Sharps TvT and stuff and this season I have just been so impressed by him and his celebration of joy at the end of this serious just put me over the edge, I am rooting for a Sharp victory this season even if he faces Snow in the finals. We've had to many Terran tournament wins but man, Sharp is bringing joy to my heart this season! | ||
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