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TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2629 Posts
October 15 2024 14:30 GMT
#81
Hero for once showed his online ZvT form in offline environment. Wonder why he picked Monty Hall if he didn't have a specific build for it. Terrans own this map.
Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
398 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-15 15:23:31
October 15 2024 14:37 GMT
#82
On October 15 2024 22:21 Rainalcar wrote:
So what would be the zerg counter to 3 port, assuming it's not scouted, which it can't really be?


IMO the main issue was that Hero made scourge as soon as his spire finished, and they got microed to death. He popped those scourge because he didn’t have the minerals for mutas, which happened because he had to make and cancel buildings to save drones, plus moving drones around to try and keep them alive.

These typical 2hatch muta builds with a third hatch around ~4:30 usually work so that you have ~500 minerals when the spire finishes, assuming nothing major happens before then. edit: on closer inspection, he did a 2,5 hatch build but the 3. hatch was delayed by ~30 seconds for some reason.

To answer your question, Zerg has to play conservatively until it’s ruled out that something like the 3port build is incoming.

You can get burrow pre-emptively so it’s ready shortly after the first wraiths hit, which lets you save your drones; if the wraiths never come, you can just cancel burrow. Or, you could delay your third hatch to make sure you have the minerals to pop 6 mutas when the spire finishes.
(*^^)(^*)
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey726 Posts
October 15 2024 15:49 GMT
#83
On October 15 2024 22:48 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 21:13 HOLYBATS wrote:
Congrats Sharp! 4/4 LB on R8. No zvz either.

1 / 4 for me HOLYBATS

And i missed the games too

I'll watch them later ....

Don't give up.It is time for R4!
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia360 Posts
October 15 2024 15:49 GMT
#84
Thanks
j.r.r.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7874 Posts
October 15 2024 16:19 GMT
#85
What a series from Sharp. That was awesome.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania7909 Posts
October 15 2024 17:56 GMT
#86
On October 16 2024 00:49 HOLYBATS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 22:48 prosatan wrote:
On October 15 2024 21:13 HOLYBATS wrote:
Congrats Sharp! 4/4 LB on R8. No zvz either.

1 / 4 for me HOLYBATS

And i missed the games too

I'll watch them later ....

Don't give up.It is time for R4!

We got this!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7874 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-15 19:53:44
October 15 2024 19:53 GMT
#87
Ro4 not so easy to predict though. I was impressed by Sharp preparation, i think we could see him go against Soulkey. That would be a fun matchup.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
kaspa84
Profile Joined July 2016
Brazil169 Posts
October 15 2024 21:05 GMT
#88
On October 15 2024 18:53 oEkY wrote:
Sharp ended up as ASL1 finalist and lost against Protoss and that is going to happen again in S(oop)SL1

Sharp > Hero
Sharp > Rain
Sharp < Snow

At least that is what i'm hoping for...


So he lost to Shuttle plays back then and now will lose to shuttle plays?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13004 Posts
October 15 2024 23:22 GMT
#89
Best ro4 we could’ve hoped for. All races represented, no prospect of a TvT or ZvZ final, and SK going for a three peat.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7874 Posts
October 16 2024 00:11 GMT
#90
On October 16 2024 08:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Best ro4 we could’ve hoped for. All races represented, no prospect of a TvT or ZvZ final, and SK going for a three peat.

Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States341 Posts
October 16 2024 00:36 GMT
#91
Loved Sharp's play this set, I'm so glad! I think Rain vs Sharp is gonna be so good. SK vs Snow will be good as well, but I feel like Rain - Sharp is going to go wild.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-16 05:58:19
October 16 2024 05:56 GMT
#92
Think it's fair to say this was the best Ro8 match?

Overall, this season has been fairly low-key outside of Speed's surprising performance. Some disappointing results from my ro16 hopefuls including Mini and Jaedong, and then Light ate his own socks.

As much as I love SoulKey and think he's heavily favored against everyone, I'd love to see Sharp take it all. Not even a huge Sharpie fan, just think it'd be hype. And SoulKey get's a silver.

Something tells me that if Sharp were to win, he'd subsequently fade into the mist like Larva did.
aka wilted_kale
avanhokie
Profile Joined May 2017
50 Posts
October 16 2024 07:54 GMT
#93
On October 16 2024 09:11 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2024 08:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Best ro4 we could’ve hoped for. All races represented, no prospect of a TvT or ZvZ final, and SK going for a three peat.

Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP.


We've already had mediocre TvT's several times in the last few finals I'll pass on the potential Light vs Sharp or Rush thanks.
avanhokie
Profile Joined May 2017
50 Posts
October 16 2024 07:54 GMT
#94
On October 15 2024 21:17 Kraekkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2024 21:14 Simplistik wrote:
Nice game, shows why we need more island maps. Three-port wraith.


Yea we need more maps where one race gets to do interesting and surprising stuff while the other gets handicapped.


I agree watching Zerg lose is pretty fun
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3093 Posts
October 16 2024 08:57 GMT
#95
Sigh, I picked Rush and Hero to advance. My BW LB win is slipping away. I was number 1 for so long.
Artosis loves Starcraft
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands796 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-10-16 12:07:42
October 16 2024 12:07 GMT
#96
On October 16 2024 14:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Think it's fair to say this was the best Ro8 match?

Overall, this season has been fairly low-key outside of Speed's surprising performance. Some disappointing results from my ro16 hopefuls including Mini and Jaedong, and then Light ate his own socks.

As much as I love SoulKey and think he's heavily favored against everyone, I'd love to see Sharp take it all. Not even a huge Sharpie fan, just think it'd be hype. And SoulKey get's a silver.

Something tells me that if Sharp were to win, he'd subsequently fade into the mist like Larva did.

The matches have generally been fast. Speed had matches that went on longer and he was able to show off :p.

also we got 3 of last season's semi finalists back in the semi finals. I think thats a first?
JDON MY SOUL!
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2000 Posts
October 16 2024 18:21 GMT
#97
On October 16 2024 21:07 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2024 14:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Think it's fair to say this was the best Ro8 match?

Overall, this season has been fairly low-key outside of Speed's surprising performance. Some disappointing results from my ro16 hopefuls including Mini and Jaedong, and then Light ate his own socks.

As much as I love SoulKey and think he's heavily favored against everyone, I'd love to see Sharp take it all. Not even a huge Sharpie fan, just think it'd be hype. And SoulKey get's a silver.

Something tells me that if Sharp were to win, he'd subsequently fade into the mist like Larva did.

The matches have generally been fast. Speed had matches that went on longer and he was able to show off :p.

also we got 3 of last season's semi finalists back in the semi finals. I think thats a first?

Not quite a first, but not in a while.

Semifinalists:
ASL11: Mini, Larva, herO, Queen
ASL12: Mini, Rush, herO, Queen

ASL9: Light, Queen, Soma, Flash
ASL10: Larva, Queen, Soma, Flash
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
October 17 2024 04:51 GMT
#98
Sick game 4. Perfect execution.
Moderator<:3-/-<
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2000 Posts
October 17 2024 07:30 GMT
#99
On October 16 2024 09:11 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2024 08:22 RowdierBob wrote:
Best ro4 we could’ve hoped for. All races represented, no prospect of a TvT or ZvZ final, and SK going for a three peat.

Honestly I’d much rather have TvT than PvP.

We had two TvT finals recently, and one of them really didn't deliver.
Dear BW Gods, I know it's not autumn (in the Northern hemisphere), but please have mercy on Protoss.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria364 Posts
October 17 2024 07:33 GMT
#100
Really shows when you strive for the win, good on Sharp for his passion last ASL and now.
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