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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6794 Posts
April 27 2024 10:22 GMT
#41
Soulkey is different. Grats with theback to back.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1070 Posts
April 27 2024 10:24 GMT
#42
Soulkey second person with 3+ Remastered Era offline titles!
JDON MY SOUL!
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
April 27 2024 10:29 GMT
#43
uhh.. GGs, I guess?

congratulations to the winner
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3113 Posts
April 27 2024 10:38 GMT
#44
So since 2023 Soulkey has pocketed KRW 200M+ alone from Proleague and winning two ASLs. Surely he doesn't need money now?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
April 27 2024 10:46 GMT
#45
On April 27 2024 19:38 TMNT wrote:
So since 2023 Soulkey has pocketed KRW 200M+ alone from Proleague and winning two ASLs. Surely he doesn't need money now?

he always needs money lmao
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-27 12:14:40
April 27 2024 12:13 GMT
#46
Overall it was a pretty decent ASL imo. My biggest disappointment was that 9 out 11 PvZs we got in the playoffs were all ins. And even in this final 5/7 (if we count game 7 as well, since it is arguable there) of the games were BOs wins. I am not sure if this is what BW has turned into or it was just this tournament, but I was hoping for more "standard" games with an all in here and there
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
April 27 2024 12:24 GMT
#47
On April 27 2024 21:13 M2 wrote:
Overall it was a pretty decent ASL imo. My biggest disappointment was that 9 out 11 PvZs we got in the playoffs were all ins. And even in this final 5/7 (if we count game 7 as well, since it is arguable there) of the games were BOs wins. I am not sure if this is what BW has turned into or it was just this tournament, but I was hoping for more "standard" games with an all in here and there

I'm going to go there and say it: ASL never had the best quality games to begin with. Much better quality and more exciting games are being played in other, smaller "starleagues", KCM and Ultimate Battle series as well as The Daily Proleague.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5204 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-28 06:21:30
April 27 2024 12:38 GMT
#48
The amount of votes on the polls... Oh my... No1 here cares about ZvZ lmao

Edit: At the time I wrote this, well after the stream had ended, the polls only had 2-5 votes.
FBH #1!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4132 Posts
April 27 2024 13:02 GMT
#49
On April 27 2024 21:24 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2024 21:13 M2 wrote:
Overall it was a pretty decent ASL imo. My biggest disappointment was that 9 out 11 PvZs we got in the playoffs were all ins. And even in this final 5/7 (if we count game 7 as well, since it is arguable there) of the games were BOs wins. I am not sure if this is what BW has turned into or it was just this tournament, but I was hoping for more "standard" games with an all in here and there

I'm going to go there and say it: ASL never had the best quality games to begin with. Much better quality and more exciting games are being played in other, smaller "starleagues", KCM and Ultimate Battle series as well as The Daily Proleague.

What do you think is the reason for this? Do you think that the preparation games on average became worse quality than the improvisation games?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8514 Posts
April 27 2024 13:09 GMT
#50
On April 27 2024 21:38 Peeano wrote:
The amount of votes on the polls... Oh my... No1 here cares about ZvZ lmao

I voted !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50602 Posts
April 27 2024 13:50 GMT
#51
On April 27 2024 22:02 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2024 21:24 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On April 27 2024 21:13 M2 wrote:
Overall it was a pretty decent ASL imo. My biggest disappointment was that 9 out 11 PvZs we got in the playoffs were all ins. And even in this final 5/7 (if we count game 7 as well, since it is arguable there) of the games were BOs wins. I am not sure if this is what BW has turned into or it was just this tournament, but I was hoping for more "standard" games with an all in here and there

I'm going to go there and say it: ASL never had the best quality games to begin with. Much better quality and more exciting games are being played in other, smaller "starleagues", KCM and Ultimate Battle series as well as The Daily Proleague.

What do you think is the reason for this? Do you think that the preparation games on average became worse quality than the improvisation games?

there's a general feeling that players are more comfortable playing at home than in a booth.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-27 14:15:44
April 27 2024 14:15 GMT
#52
On April 27 2024 22:02 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2024 21:24 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On April 27 2024 21:13 M2 wrote:
Overall it was a pretty decent ASL imo. My biggest disappointment was that 9 out 11 PvZs we got in the playoffs were all ins. And even in this final 5/7 (if we count game 7 as well, since it is arguable there) of the games were BOs wins. I am not sure if this is what BW has turned into or it was just this tournament, but I was hoping for more "standard" games with an all in here and there

I'm going to go there and say it: ASL never had the best quality games to begin with. Much better quality and more exciting games are being played in other, smaller "starleagues", KCM and Ultimate Battle series as well as The Daily Proleague.

What do you think is the reason for this? Do you think that the preparation games on average became worse quality than the improvisation games?

Preparation or lack thereof probably has something to do with it, yes.. but II would say, that much lower pressure of playing offline and with no prestigious title on the line is the most obvious and probably the biggest factor in this happening.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-27 14:32:11
April 27 2024 14:29 GMT
#53
own chair, own desk, own pc, the room temperature, lighting etc all affects ones comfort when playing. high comfort usually means better performance. Also the maps this season were really catered to all in plays and cheeses and more weird strategies.

If we get a map pool more like ASL13-15 we will likely see more quality games again. This ASL had some amazing games that were legit peak starcraft, but most games were cheese and all in Because zerg is just disadvantaged on this map pool with standard play. Pros I talked to did not like any of the maps beside Retro and Apocalypse.
JDON MY SOUL!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 27 2024 16:50 GMT
#54
Feels bad for hero, just one game short from getting crowned as champion, being so consistent all 17 seasons... But you gotta give to SK - no one showed this high bo5/bo7 preparation and tenacity, coming back from LLWWW. I hope SK will continue delivering, not go down like ZerO who also got back to back.
sunbeams are never made like me...
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 27 2024 17:07 GMT
#55
Sick season for Soulkey. This was a fantastic run from him.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3097 Posts
April 27 2024 18:28 GMT
#56
zerg op

Now if Mini had just played a liiiiiiitle better
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5204 Posts
April 27 2024 19:41 GMT
#57
Basically the only thing exciting about this finals was it went to game 7. If all the games were rated as stand alones I don't think we'd see a single yes vote on the polls.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5204 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-04-27 19:51:18
April 27 2024 19:49 GMT
#58
^I recommend skipping this finals entirely and enjoy the Recap instead if you didn't already.
FBH #1!
Rainalcar
Profile Joined April 2010
Croatia422 Posts
April 27 2024 20:46 GMT
#59
ZvZ is a travesty, an utterly broken mirror. And it has so much potential... Truly a disgrace. And finals like this is a disaster for the scene.
j.r.r.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
April 27 2024 22:03 GMT
#60
On April 27 2024 21:38 Peeano wrote:
The amount of votes on the polls... Oh my... No1 here cares about ZvZ lmao

I like ZvZ but the games this finals were pretty boring. Worst finals maybe tied by ASL 15 finals.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
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