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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8677 Posts
March 25 2024 12:56 GMT
#41
god damn...

even if shuttle loses vs rush , his fans are still happy with his performance i think
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey781 Posts
March 25 2024 12:58 GMT
#42
Shuttle the Light killer lol
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50861 Posts
March 25 2024 12:59 GMT
#43
Poll: Recommend Losers' Game Set 3?

Yes (8)
 
67%

If you have time (3)
 
25%

No (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers' Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50861 Posts
March 25 2024 12:59 GMT
#44
Light can only play well in seasons he gets to stomp rain.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3151 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 13:03:44
March 25 2024 13:03 GMT
#45
I said Light could still go out of this group but didn't expect it was Shuttle who knocked him out. Man, 80% win rate last month in Proleague...
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8677 Posts
March 25 2024 13:06 GMT
#46
On March 25 2024 22:03 TMNT wrote:
I said Light could still go out of this group but didn't expect it was Shuttle who knocked him out. Man, 80% win rate last month in Proleague...

and is not even BO 1
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
March 25 2024 13:17 GMT
#47
Shuttle nailed that barracks
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50861 Posts
March 25 2024 13:45 GMT
#48
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

If you have time (6)
 
86%

Yes (1)
 
14%

No (0)
 
0%

7 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

If you have time (5)
 
63%

Yes (2)
 
25%

No (1)
 
13%

8 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

If you have time (8)
 
89%

Yes (1)
 
11%

No (0)
 
0%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3151 Posts
March 25 2024 14:16 GMT
#49
So this season is gonna be:
- either Soulkey winning it all,
- or someone, most likely Rush, takes him down and one of the Protosses wins it.

I don't see Protoss beating Soulkey in a BO5, so scenario 1 more likely to happen.
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
March 25 2024 14:35 GMT
#50
On March 25 2024 23:16 TMNT wrote:
So this season is gonna be:
- either Soulkey winning it all,
- or someone, most likely Rush, takes him down and one of the Protosses wins it.

I don't see Protoss beating Soulkey in a BO5, so scenario 1 more likely to happen.


Hero or Action could also take SK down too I think.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4252 Posts
March 25 2024 14:52 GMT
#51
Satisfied about the results (because I just wanted Best to advance and the rest was whatever).

But very surprised about Light not only not advancing but not even winning one set.. That's a rough one.

GGs!
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2929 Posts
March 25 2024 15:06 GMT
#52
The dynamics of online vs offline tournament play really appear to have quite an impact on the play.

It's quite an awkward relationship - the ASL prize pool is laughable for a tournament stretching over 2 months and requiring a lot of practice, offline attendance & promos. Especially in this era of streaming. The players are honoring the tournament by keeping the achievement in high regard and putting in the practice (most of them at least). Meanwhile, the tournament is one of the important pillars to keep the scene alive and in that way tied to their popularity & income.

That said, it seems it's easy to overestimate players shape. Does it matter how well you do in practice if you can't peak during the tournament when the stakes (at the least achievement wise) are at its highest? Does it matter if you do well in friendlies when you drop out early in a tournament bracket?

Light is considered the cream of the crop, but had some really disappointing games today. An off-day? Or in line with his results in the last 3 years in which he had 1 successful championship run but dropped out consistently in Ro24/Ro16 (and maybe a single Ro8? would have to check). Is he truly underperforming?

Maybe the likes as Hero deserve a lot more credit.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 15:19:28
March 25 2024 15:10 GMT
#53
On March 25 2024 23:16 TMNT wrote:
So this season is gonna be:
- either Soulkey winning it all,
- or someone, most likely Rush, takes him down and one of the Protosses wins it.

I don't see Protoss beating Soulkey in a BO5, so scenario 1 more likely to happen.

Snow seems like the best player online, but Snow might just choke again... If snow can bring his online form he will 100% win ASL. Nobody stands a chance against that. Not even soulkey.
Dont think anyone except the Zergs can take Soulkey down right now If snow chokes himself out...


And I agree with above post. Tournaments seems much more about composure and being ice cold. Playing in the comfort of your home is incomparable to stage play. In LOL coaching we put a lot of effort into prepping players for on stage performance where it all matters. With BW i feel there might be too much focus on grinding practice over mental preparation and mental fortitude.
JDON MY SOUL!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3151 Posts
March 25 2024 15:34 GMT
#54
On March 26 2024 00:10 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2024 23:16 TMNT wrote:
So this season is gonna be:
- either Soulkey winning it all,
- or someone, most likely Rush, takes him down and one of the Protosses wins it.

I don't see Protoss beating Soulkey in a BO5, so scenario 1 more likely to happen.

Snow seems like the best player online, but Snow might just choke again... If snow can bring his online form he will 100% win ASL. Nobody stands a chance against that. Not even soulkey.
Dont think anyone except the Zergs can take Soulkey down right now If snow chokes himself out...


And I agree with above post. Tournaments seems much more about composure and being ice cold. Playing in the comfort of your home is incomparable to stage play. In LOL coaching we put a lot of effort into prepping players for on stage performance where it all matters. With BW i feel there might be too much focus on grinding practice over mental preparation and mental fortitude.

Mini vs Snow PvP is 50/50.

We can actually see them knocking each other out in the Ro8. That would be the worst matchup for Snow.
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2929 Posts
March 25 2024 15:39 GMT
#55
On March 26 2024 00:10 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2024 23:16 TMNT wrote:
So this season is gonna be:
- either Soulkey winning it all,
- or someone, most likely Rush, takes him down and one of the Protosses wins it.

I don't see Protoss beating Soulkey in a BO5, so scenario 1 more likely to happen.

Snow seems like the best player online, but Snow might just choke again... If snow can bring his online form he will 100% win ASL. Nobody stands a chance against that. Not even soulkey.
Dont think anyone except the Zergs can take Soulkey down right now If snow chokes himself out...


And I agree with above post. Tournaments seems much more about composure and being ice cold. Playing in the comfort of your home is incomparable to stage play. In LOL coaching we put a lot of effort into prepping players for on stage performance where it all matters. With BW i feel there might be too much focus on grinding practice over mental preparation and mental fortitude.


JD mentioned lacking confidence and making bad decisions as well as cause for his elimination. He had been looking so good lately - not just in results but it really looked like he refreshed his gameplay - but in the end wasn't able to convert this into his tournament play.
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-25 15:49:29
March 25 2024 15:48 GMT
#56
Maps seem a bit P favored in PvT (according to https://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/comments/1bb1917/brood_war_is_balanced_by_maps_but_the_maps_are/ via eloboard.com, tracks Sponbang matches between pros and semi-pros)

Odds for Terran (against Protoss) on these maps:

Citadel: 52.9%
Radeon: 51.3%
Neo Dark Origin: 51.1%
Apocalypse: 47.3%
Retro: 48.8%
Troy: 44.2%
BlitzY: 40.9%

Some comments; Neo Dark Origin is 40.2% for Terran on TvP on Liquipedia (92 games), while BlitzY is 100% for Terran on Liquipedia (on only 3 games, which I think were largely 2 base pushes or cheeses).

Even with the maps in mind, (and given that each player has a map veto), you'd still expect Light to beat Shuttle (especially given that Rush trounced him so easily).
I Wannabe[WHITE], the very BeSt[HyO], like Yo Hwan EVER Oz.......
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3151 Posts
March 25 2024 16:11 GMT
#57
Lmao Shuttle is now shirtless dancing on his stream, celebrating his... elimination from ASL (while receiving tons of donations).

Meanwhile Light having a drinking mukbang (I suppose, since his stream is age restricted atm).
barcodejester
Profile Joined March 2022
52 Posts
March 25 2024 16:50 GMT
#58
floating buildings are goated. if terran ever realizes how cheap ebays are and how much they protect their tanks they will never get busted by a ground army again.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States370 Posts
March 25 2024 23:22 GMT
#59
Geez, the losers match was such a clown show... I hope this isnt the start of a decline for Light, b/c I dont even think Shuttle was playing super well in those games.

Very happy it's a protoss season tho! It feels like it's been a long time. Rooting for Best!
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile163 Posts
March 25 2024 23:41 GMT
#60
ㄷㅈㅇ!!
This is the season! I can feel it!

I swear Best vs Light in ASL always delivers.
Their match in Benzene in ASL 10 was amazing and so was the one on 76.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
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