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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4989 Posts
August 07 2023 19:05 GMT
#141
On August 08 2023 03:49 Szinkler wrote:
The must watch game 3 if anyone missed it: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1891559968?t=3h52m13s

Damn. That's a great + Show Spoiler +
timing
FBH #1!
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
2848 Posts
August 08 2023 01:00 GMT
#142
On August 08 2023 02:41 Entaro[AoV] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2023 23:50 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Just popped in to say that Fantasy/JD series was very fulfilling and made up for the other 2 lackluster series. Fantasy is in such good shape, i'm pretty astounded. And it wasn't like JD played bad, he looked great honestly. What a series.

No shade on SC2, cause I'm a huge fan of that game as well, but Fantasy vs JD (game 3 I think?) is proof of the strength and depth of Brood War as it compares to most other games. Just incredible, awesome, cinematic, gut-wrenching, and badass all around. Grats to Fantasy, super well played, but more impressed with JD honestly. I can't even imagine what it feels like to be a Zerg under that much continuous pressure all game - and in every game of the series.



hard for me to imagine SC2 can have the type of swings and multi-tasking that happened in those games.


BW is hard to top in this regard indeed. loved it
aka wilted_kale
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
August 08 2023 09:33 GMT
#143
Sadly and surprisingly to me the SC2 was actually better than the BW in this case...
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
August 08 2023 12:26 GMT
#144
On August 08 2023 18:33 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Sadly and surprisingly to me the SC2 was actually better than the BW in this case...

no it wasn't.. especially not the play-offs
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 09 2023 02:54 GMT
#145
great games
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-09 06:13:13
August 09 2023 06:12 GMT
#146
Fantasy will stream on Afreeca today at 7pm KST. Not sure what the content will be (probably to communicate with fans after Gamers8) but that's good news right?
Kespa1988
Profile Joined January 2022
38 Posts
August 09 2023 11:16 GMT
#147
He is streaming, quite a lot viewers at the moment(5k):

Stream: https://play.afreecatv.com/mhj9171

Can somone add this to tl. BW streamer list?
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria370 Posts
August 09 2023 16:12 GMT
#148
I might be out of the loop but what grabbed my attention was how many firebats Fantasy was using. Always thought they are rather underused in the early/mid game pushes.
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1433 Posts
August 09 2023 16:23 GMT
#149
On August 08 2023 21:26 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2023 18:33 LUCKY_NOOB wrote:
Sadly and surprisingly to me the SC2 was actually better than the BW in this case...

no it wasn't.. especially not the play-offs


I've just seen the grand finals so far. BW finals were a murder in the wrong direction, while SC2 finals were a murder in the right direction AND I was never sure who would win. While in BW it looked and felt pretty one sided for most of the games... I hate that feeling.
ko-fi.com/luckynoob
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
August 10 2023 06:57 GMT
#150
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
August 10 2023 07:47 GMT
#151
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25314 Posts
August 10 2023 09:29 GMT
#152
On August 10 2023 16:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.

I’d imagine it’s pretty damn competitive to break into though. I mean hardcore BW fans have legends of that game still playing and lots of established characters. I’m not sure how much interest in that space there would be for an SC2 player trying to build themselves up.

Apparently MC is pretty damn good, on the outskirts of ASL qualification good but I don’t know if she streams.

Plus there’s always the possibility that the current SC2 crop either prefer SC2 over BW, or prefer the SC2 structure over BW’s.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2710 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-08-10 15:18:19
August 10 2023 15:12 GMT
#153
On August 10 2023 18:29 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2023 16:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.

I’d imagine it’s pretty damn competitive to break into though. I mean hardcore BW fans have legends of that game still playing and lots of established characters. I’m not sure how much interest in that space there would be for an SC2 player trying to build themselves up.

Apparently MC is pretty damn good, on the outskirts of ASL qualification good but I don’t know if she streams.

Plus there’s always the possibility that the current SC2 crop either prefer SC2 over BW, or prefer the SC2 structure over BW’s.

MC is streaming. He's under the flag of the JSA university (one of the more popular SC universities). He also worn their T-shirt at Gamers8 if anyone noticed. He's Joker tier (lower than Scan - for comparison) - so not particularly strong.

The thing is, transitioning from SC2 progamer to SC1 streamer is not that simple. If you're as good as Fantasy, it's pretty easy. You have a big fanbase already who will follow your stream no matter what, and you'll slot right in Major Proleague where the highest earners are.

But if you're at MC's level, you'll get murdered even in K-League, so Proleague is not the way. The best way is to join one of the universities, do coaching for female streamers, participate in uni activities. For that you'll need a bit of talent in variety streaming, and some connections. And available spots are limited as well. So it's not that straightforward.

Last year, Dear also made the transition. Couldn't qualify for ASL. He was in the Basford univ (Best as president), but after the university disbanded he kinda vanished from the SC1 scene. I think he's back to SC2 now.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3365 Posts
August 10 2023 18:10 GMT
#154
MC was in MBC B team as a progamer no? Or am I confusing him with someone else?
So he had a solid pre-SC2 foundation.

A lot of sc2 pro in Korea were already around for BW during Kespa but the younger ones not and so it d be hard for them to be relevant in BW in Korea. SC2 popularity is very low and few fans would transfer over. Since fans who both like sc2 and bw probably already have other BW players they prefer.

For foreigners, it s not obvious the skills would transfer enough to be worth it in the korean system of streaming, little money in the "western" system outside China.
Horang2 fan
RJBTV
Profile Joined December 2022
194 Posts
August 10 2023 18:21 GMT
#155
On August 11 2023 00:12 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2023 18:29 WombaT wrote:
On August 10 2023 16:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.

I’d imagine it’s pretty damn competitive to break into though. I mean hardcore BW fans have legends of that game still playing and lots of established characters. I’m not sure how much interest in that space there would be for an SC2 player trying to build themselves up.

Apparently MC is pretty damn good, on the outskirts of ASL qualification good but I don’t know if she streams.

Plus there’s always the possibility that the current SC2 crop either prefer SC2 over BW, or prefer the SC2 structure over BW’s.

MC is streaming. He's under the flag of the JSA university (one of the more popular SC universities). He also worn their T-shirt at Gamers8 if anyone noticed. He's Joker tier (lower than Scan - for comparison) - so not particularly strong.

The thing is, transitioning from SC2 progamer to SC1 streamer is not that simple. If you're as good as Fantasy, it's pretty easy. You have a big fanbase already who will follow your stream no matter what, and you'll slot right in Major Proleague where the highest earners are.

But if you're at MC's level, you'll get murdered even in K-League, so Proleague is not the way. The best way is to join one of the universities, do coaching for female streamers, participate in uni activities. For that you'll need a bit of talent in variety streaming, and some connections. And available spots are limited as well. So it's not that straightforward.

Last year, Dear also made the transition. Couldn't qualify for ASL. He was in the Basford univ (Best as president), but after the university disbanded he kinda vanished from the SC1 scene. I think he's back to SC2 now.


dear won a jack tier tournament beating scan horang and hiya. after that he wasnt making enough money so he quit. TY has been in multiple qualifiers finals. True has been playing as BTS. Hyun and Ruin are from sc2 too.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
August 11 2023 14:44 GMT
#156
On August 10 2023 18:29 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2023 16:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.

I’d imagine it’s pretty damn competitive to break into though. I mean hardcore BW fans have legends of that game still playing and lots of established characters. I’m not sure how much interest in that space there would be for an SC2 player trying to build themselves up.

Apparently MC is pretty damn good, on the outskirts of ASL qualification good but I don’t know if she streams.

Plus there’s always the possibility that the current SC2 crop either prefer SC2 over BW, or prefer the SC2 structure over BW’s.

some, if not most of these guys used to play BW too

like soO, Stats, Classic, TY aka BaBy, sOs.. etc

shame.. but whatever I guess
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25314 Posts
August 11 2023 17:25 GMT
#157
On August 11 2023 23:44 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2023 18:29 WombaT wrote:
On August 10 2023 16:47 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
On August 10 2023 15:57 ggsimida wrote:
really like to see more of the sc2 players try their hands on serious BW for a while. if scarlett can be decent imagine how reynor and serral can do.

weird that many more top korean sc2 players don't do it.. you can make so much money by streaming BW on afreeca.. especially if you're a known name. Much more stable than tournament winnings too.

Kinda bizarre.

I’d imagine it’s pretty damn competitive to break into though. I mean hardcore BW fans have legends of that game still playing and lots of established characters. I’m not sure how much interest in that space there would be for an SC2 player trying to build themselves up.

Apparently MC is pretty damn good, on the outskirts of ASL qualification good but I don’t know if she streams.

Plus there’s always the possibility that the current SC2 crop either prefer SC2 over BW, or prefer the SC2 structure over BW’s.

some, if not most of these guys used to play BW too

like soO, Stats, Classic, TY aka BaBy, sOs.. etc

shame.. but whatever I guess

It would make sense for that crew being mostly pretty good BW pros who transferred to SC2 aye. If they fancied, think TY dabbled a bit that I watched

Just dunno if the interest would be there audience wise for someone like Maru or Gumiho who are SC2 players first and foremost learning BW properly
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