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Poll: Recommend BeSt vs Action Set 1?

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4228 Posts
April 04 2023 06:31 GMT
#81
this has to be one of the best ASLs so far, honestly
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1102 Posts
April 04 2023 08:20 GMT
#82
I thought it was great, but people are over reacting.
Had a lot of action, and by that i mean action keep suiciding his armies at a good pace. I wouldn't call him match fixing, like many people seems to think. lol

Overall good match, i feel like game 4th ended a bit too fast, but cant blame action after what hes been through in previous games (except game 1).

Happy for best and i think this ASL is his, if he keep that mindset, no1 in the pool can beat him a bo5 at the moment.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 04 2023 10:33 GMT
#83
No Day 2 thread? oO
sunbeams are never made like me...
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
April 04 2023 11:19 GMT
#84
On April 04 2023 09:05 TMNT wrote:
It's ridiculous in this matchup that Action can opened with hydras to have a game ending threat, but could still transition out of it into a macro game where he had the lead. I mean, Best built the correct amount of cannons to survice - a difficult task in itself - only to continue the game in a position where he was expected to lose.


I don't think I agree with the assessment. In game 2, Action was behind after the initial Hydra-pressure, and he took a long time to even get his mineral only. The reason he nearly won was the multi-angle Lurker drops that did huge damage. At no point did Action actually have an army that could overwhelm Best in a defensive posture.

Similarly in game 3, after the Hydra pressure, Action was actually almost dead. The game went long because Best made the questionable decision to attack Action's natural, instead of going for the softer 3rd base. If he kept his army in tact, to get a couple of Reavers, he could've probably broken the natural.
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
April 04 2023 13:09 GMT
#85
BeSt's spellcaster usage in game 2 was illegally good
Mine gas, build tanks.
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria378 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-04 14:43:12
April 04 2023 14:43 GMT
#86
Depressed that Action lost like a chump, but best has really been playing it strategically. By that I mean letting his opponents kill themselves against him. But that is a viable strategy, so props to him.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8617 Posts
April 04 2023 18:49 GMT
#87
On April 04 2023 09:05 TMNT wrote:
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On April 04 2023 06:37 Miragee wrote:

To be perfectly honest, the real reason why Best won this series is that he scouted so well in games 2-4 and always build the correct amount of defense (enough but not too much) to not die to early hydras. It's very hard to do that and many of the best Protosses could have easily died early here, in which case the series would have gone 3-0 for Action within 30 minutes or so... Late game protoss has always been extremely strong in PvZ. I still have nightmares of trying to fight lategame toss on Bluestorm... It just rarely gets to that point because Hydras.


Amazing play from Best but honestly, if it wasn't Action who couldn't stop himself from suiciding hydras and drops nonstop for the killing blow, I don't think he could make those comebacks. You put a guy like Soulkey or Hero in those situations and it's 3-0 for Zerg.

It's ridiculous in this matchup that Action can opened with hydras to have a game ending threat, but could still transition out of it into a macro game where he had the lead. I mean, Best built the correct amount of cannons to survice - a difficult task in itself - only to continue the game in a position where he was expected to lose.


Completely agree on both points. PvZ always starts with the assumption Protoss will lose in my head. It's such an uphill battle.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-04 19:15:58
April 04 2023 19:14 GMT
#88
Delighted for BeSt, did not believe he'd get this far, some amazing spell usage!

On April 03 2023 21:23 Bonyth wrote:
DA always an option when dealing against 973

Can you explain why against 973 specifically?
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
135 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-05 00:05:13
April 04 2023 23:59 GMT
#89
Nobody wants to see ZvZ in RO4! That is, unless is it JvZ...

Honestly Best did not look like a championship level player. It feels like his victories vs. Action come due to the cause of Action's shity decision making and lack of patience - the same happens to Soma more than it should. However, Do Jae Wook's perseverance to never surrender even when the odds seem pathetic is what i admire the most about him. Truly he is that guy which will fight to the very end. And often this results in the most epic games ever.

On April 03 2023 19:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Poll: Recommend BeSt vs Action Set 1?

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63%

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If you have time (2)
 
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What the hell is wrong with you guys? Most of you do not recommend the first game? But it was a brilliant mini mind game from Action! Do you consider this cheesy?
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3505 Posts
April 05 2023 02:15 GMT
#90
Saved from ZvZ finals. Praise be.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
2_2
Profile Joined June 2022
Poland30 Posts
April 05 2023 09:30 GMT
#91
Crazy games. Both in 2 and 3 I was almost sure Best was dead, but he still managed to win. Good for him. Incredibly efficient use of dark archon vs hydras, usually if P doesn't catch a clump of mutas they cast one weak maelstorm and lose the DA randomly running into lurkers.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
April 06 2023 22:59 GMT
#92
On April 05 2023 08:59 Artas1984 wrote:
Honestly Best did not look like a championship level player.

He had perhaps the best spell usage PvZ I've ever seen. I don't even think I'm exaggerating there.

I agree with you that Action likely threw away winning games but I think Best deserves plenty of credit here.
Also agree with you about game one by the way, it's something novel to see lings just bust down the gateway and break in like that with four zealots sat there powerless.
The original Bogus fan.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 09 2023 12:30 GMT
#93
I just saw the english cast now..
This series was insane, honestly legendary. It's always great when one player has a god tier performance, but when both players play absolutely great games and one shows resolve even greater beyond it's definitely those nerd chills artosis always talks about. wooo!
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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sharkeyanti
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1273 Posts
April 11 2023 05:23 GMT
#94
What a great series. I was clapping for Action in Game 1, absolutely brilliant.

That Game 3 though, hot damn. Shows why BW is the best.
Hi Mom
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-14 11:42:54
April 14 2023 11:31 GMT
#95
Fuck yer Dark Archons. Awrsome set of PvZ. Gg to Best for Advancing.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 16 2023 08:00 GMT
#96
Woo hoo, that was fun to watch! Go BeSt!
May the BeSt man win.
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