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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1193 Posts
March 08 2023 12:21 GMT
#61
16 players.

3 protoss.

hahaha
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4211 Posts
March 08 2023 12:22 GMT
#62
On March 08 2023 21:21 oxKnu wrote:
16 players.

3 protoss.

hahaha

just awful.. -.-
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2859 Posts
March 08 2023 12:26 GMT
#63
On March 08 2023 20:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
also..why would JYJ actually use a mask IN his booth? I mean I can understand there is a spectrum in how annoying you find a mask.. but you surely cant find it good/neutral for your feeling/breathing ect..

makes me really wonder if IQ and Skill in this game are actually related -_- wtf


It's neutral for a lot of Koreans. They wear masks all the time even before covid. Could also be he's feeling sick himself and don't want to spread. It's basic etiquette in Korean society. Try to open your mind a little bit instead of questioning his IQ.

Also he just beat Stork comfortably.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
211 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-08 14:40:02
March 08 2023 14:15 GMT
#64
On March 08 2023 21:02 whylessness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 20:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
also..why would JYJ actually use a mask IN his booth? I mean I can understand there is a spectrum in how annoying you find a mask.. but you surely cant find it good/neutral for your feeling/breathing ect..

makes me really wonder if IQ and Skill in this game are actually related -_- wtf



p. sure the anti-mask ppl are the ones with the low iq. could be personal preference, could have mild flu like symptoms but be covid negative.



koreans/japanese are used to masks long before covid

also mask mandates didnt do much, according to the latest studies, you can check this study:
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

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Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence). Harms were rarely measured and poorly reported (very low‐certainty evidence).


washing your hands actually did something vs wearing masks that did almost nothing

so, how is your IQ now?
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 08 2023 14:43 GMT
#65
JyJ played a mediocre first game but then last 2 games felt like almost FlaSh level, it wasn't even close! Stork did fine, he should keep playing, he can't retire when he still has godlike carrier control.
sunbeams are never made like me...
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-08 14:49:16
March 08 2023 14:48 GMT
#66
On March 08 2023 21:21 oxKnu wrote:
16 players.

3 protoss.

hahaha


I mean all that effort bringing HBR for tosses but then Mini choking, Shuttle performing awful, Ruin gets sweeped... Who you can blame other than tosses?
sunbeams are never made like me...
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3027 Posts
March 08 2023 15:40 GMT
#67
Was expecting a lot more out of Stork. I knew when he just went carriers again vs Light that he was doomed. But to do it even a third time, in those positions, seems like a really questionable call.

Anyway, Poor Sacsri. Brutal competition and unforgiving format.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
March 08 2023 16:39 GMT
#68
On March 08 2023 23:15 Zografa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 21:02 whylessness wrote:
On March 08 2023 20:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
also..why would JYJ actually use a mask IN his booth? I mean I can understand there is a spectrum in how annoying you find a mask.. but you surely cant find it good/neutral for your feeling/breathing ect..

makes me really wonder if IQ and Skill in this game are actually related -_- wtf



p. sure the anti-mask ppl are the ones with the low iq. could be personal preference, could have mild flu like symptoms but be covid negative.


washing your hands actually did something vs wearing masks that did almost nothing

so, how is your IQ now?


your post which has nothing to do with starcraft lowered my iq, so... low.
Zografa
Profile Joined February 2023
211 Posts
March 08 2023 16:49 GMT
#69
On March 09 2023 01:39 whylessness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 23:15 Zografa wrote:
On March 08 2023 21:02 whylessness wrote:
On March 08 2023 20:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
also..why would JYJ actually use a mask IN his booth? I mean I can understand there is a spectrum in how annoying you find a mask.. but you surely cant find it good/neutral for your feeling/breathing ect..

makes me really wonder if IQ and Skill in this game are actually related -_- wtf



p. sure the anti-mask ppl are the ones with the low iq. could be personal preference, could have mild flu like symptoms but be covid negative.


washing your hands actually did something vs wearing masks that did almost nothing

so, how is your IQ now?


your post which has nothing to do with starcraft lowered my iq, so... low.

you did it first lol :D
redknights
Profile Joined December 2021
206 Posts
March 08 2023 23:38 GMT
#70
That was an exhilarating 2/1 upgrade timing by JyJ to wreck Stork at his most vulnerable

3 Protosses tho lmfao, bo1 such a great format
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States361 Posts
March 09 2023 00:06 GMT
#71
On March 08 2023 23:15 Zografa wrote:
also mask mandates didnt do much, according to the latest studies, you can check this study:
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

+ Show Spoiler +
Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence). Harms were rarely measured and poorly reported (very low‐certainty evidence).


washing your hands actually did something vs wearing masks that did almost nothing


Not to go off topic too much but the study's abstract conclusion says it's uncertain about the effects of masks, not precisely that they didn't do much. Also the abstract's main results says "Adherence with interventions was low in many studies", which makes it harder to draw conclusions anyway.

As for the games, I'm glad we got to see Stork's signature carriers, even if it was predictable and led to him getting steamrolled by Light. Hope this doesn't discourage him into another retirement. LB looking good too, even with my ignorance toward games outside of ASL.

With the number of Zs and Ts in Ro16, I hope we get a few late game ZvTs and TvTs with Battlecruisers involved, those are always fun.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13154 Posts
March 09 2023 09:59 GMT
#72
Honestly, Mini not making it was the only real shock from the Protoss side of things.

Only Best, Snow, Bisu and Mini are ro16 quality for ASL atm. The rest of the Protoss cohort are decidedly average.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5147 Posts
March 09 2023 10:14 GMT
#73
Shuttle makes for a nice 5th there, but he already got eliminated as well :D
FBH #1!
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
2859 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-09 11:05:36
March 09 2023 10:58 GMT
#74
It's been the story for Protoss for a few years.

Always these 4 guys who are supposed to qualify for Ro16: Bisu Best Snow Mini (Rain doesn't really count). Plus Shuttle with a 50/50 chance. Stork and Free are 50/50 too if they got in Ro24. The rest are just lucky to be in Ro24.

Problem is, Protoss is the most fragile race at this level, so even the big 4 slip sometimes in a Bo1. Bisu, Best, Snow and Mini all got knocked out of Ro24 once or twice in recent seasons.

You don't see that in the other races. The only tier 1 upsets in Ro24 for Zerg and Terran are Soma this season, and... you have to go back to Season 7 to find the next one which was Light who wasn't even considered strong back then (actually he might be tier 2 back then so that wasn't even an upset). Let that fact sink in.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-09 10:59:53
March 09 2023 10:59 GMT
#75
Agree that the biggest shock is Mini.
Ruin and Stork might have made it out in different circumstances. Maybe Ruin can come back a bit calmer with more experience...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
Aeternum
Profile Joined July 2015
Latvia35 Posts
March 09 2023 12:56 GMT
#76
Me stupid protoss ape, me think apes together stronk so me sad only 3 protoss in ro16.
On March 08 2023 23:15 Zografa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2023 21:02 whylessness wrote:
On March 08 2023 20:59 MaGic~PhiL wrote:
also..why would JYJ actually use a mask IN his booth? I mean I can understand there is a spectrum in how annoying you find a mask.. but you surely cant find it good/neutral for your feeling/breathing ect..

makes me really wonder if IQ and Skill in this game are actually related -_- wtf



p. sure the anti-mask ppl are the ones with the low iq. could be personal preference, could have mild flu like symptoms but be covid negative.

koreans/japanese are used to masks long before covid

also mask mandates didnt do much, according to the latest studies, you can check this study:
https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full

+ Show Spoiler +
Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza‐like illness (ILI)/COVID‐19 like illness compared to not wearing masks (risk ratio (RR) 0.95, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.84 to 1.09; 9 trials, 276,917 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory‐confirmed influenza/SARS‐CoV‐2 compared to not wearing masks (RR 1.01, 95% CI 0.72 to 1.42; 6 trials, 13,919 participants; moderate‐certainty evidence). Harms were rarely measured and poorly reported (very low‐certainty evidence).


washing your hands actually did something vs wearing masks that did almost nothing

so, how is your IQ now?

Me think JYJ wear mask is not stupid.
+ Show Spoiler +

Me somehow open your link, but very much read, so me open picture in your link.
Me see this nice picture:
[image loading]


Me look at 1st line in table and see Abaluck study last year, very very very very many people in this study, says if people wear mask less people sick
Me read 2nd line in table and see Aiello study 2012, me think old study and very very very few people, says mask don't help
Me look how important authors think 1st study is and see authors think it is pretty important but not very very very important, me look at 2nd study and see authors think it is half as important as 1st study but not very very very unimportant.
Me think me stupid but authors more stupid.

The power of idea
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-09 13:54:04
March 09 2023 13:51 GMT
#77
Stork, you said that you have retired from ASL, what are you doing with your rusty skills and predictable carrier builds? Can't you be honorable, keep up your word and stay retired? I've been always rooting for you, but you have to know when to quit!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50435 Posts
March 09 2023 13:51 GMT
#78
please knock it off with the mask talk, I will start taking action.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria372 Posts
March 09 2023 15:46 GMT
#79
Absolute clinic by Light.
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile162 Posts
March 09 2023 17:15 GMT
#80
On March 09 2023 19:58 TMNT wrote:
you have to go back to Season 7 to find the next one which was Light who wasn't even considered strong back then (actually he might be tier 2 back then so that wasn't even an upset). Let that fact sink in.


Actually more like tier 3 or 4 back then. On the first half of the Afrerca era Light looked pretty bad. I remember Light playing in ro24 in ASL 4 and he had the most pathetic game you can imagine. He started getting better results from ASL 8 onwards.
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