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[CJ vs KTF] ShinHan PL s2 10.01.07 - Page 2

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TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
October 01 2007 01:24 GMT
#21
savior > flash
Kwanro > hery
2v2 dunno dun care
xellos slump now vs new so maybe he'll lose
cj iris > all on python
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-01 01:41:42
October 01 2007 01:39 GMT
#22
I think people are underestimating XellOs. If it goes to a game 4, I wouldn't be surprised if XellOs won. He dropped himself to the B team to train harder -_-; that is so hardcore and so very CJ. And judging by his last games, he's not screwing around anymore.

I guess not winning a single game for so long put thing in perspective for him. Iono, he seems decently strong, even if I'm only basing that opinion off of two games.

As for no CJ cheerfuls - their site is so badly organized that it's hard to find them. I can look though.

edit: they haven't gotten a new team cheerful since 9/18, and I already used that one.
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TiMbeRWoLf
Profile Joined June 2007
United States30 Posts
October 01 2007 02:00 GMT
#23
My predictions:

sAviOr < Flash
Kwanro > Hery
CJ < KTF
XellOs > Lucifer
Iris < Nal_rA

KTF wins 3-2
Nal_rA, Flash, Stork, Hwasin
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 01 2007 02:14 GMT
#24
Iris would smack Ra silly
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
October 01 2007 02:16 GMT
#25
On October 01 2007 11:14 Ace wrote:
Iris would smack Ra silly


Didnt he just beat Iris twice at Blizzcon and WCG prelims?
Broom
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
October 01 2007 02:17 GMT
#26
Hopefully KTF shuts them down 3-0. That would be great: [ i want them to get a good start to this season.

KTF is too much like Rocky Balboa. Just built for huge dragged out battles of attrition with a bunch of pretty quality players. `_`
Broom
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 01 2007 02:21 GMT
#27
On October 01 2007 11:16 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2007 11:14 Ace wrote:
Iris would smack Ra silly


Didnt he just beat Iris twice at Blizzcon and WCG prelims?


this is Proloeague we're talking about. WCG and Blizzcon (lol) aren't really good indicators of how well players will do against each other in major Korean events.

I think Sea is the probably the best example of this "trend".
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
October 01 2007 02:24 GMT
#28
oh ok im sorry i see that you have it all figured out despite proven data to the contrary. hmmmmmmmmmMMMMMM
Broom
ii.blitzkrieg
Profile Joined November 2006
Canada1122 Posts
October 01 2007 02:29 GMT
#29
prediction:

sAviOr>Flash
Kwanro>Hery (dunno just feeling)
CJ<KTF
Xellos>Lucifer
CJ in 4
iloveoov / Flash / Fantasy / Midas / Boxer -BW forever
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 01 2007 02:36 GMT
#30
On October 01 2007 11:21 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2007 11:16 red.venom wrote:
On October 01 2007 11:14 Ace wrote:
Iris would smack Ra silly


Didnt he just beat Iris twice at Blizzcon and WCG prelims?


this is Proloeague we're talking about. WCG and Blizzcon (lol) aren't really good indicators of how well players will do against each other in major Korean events.

I think Sea is the probably the best example of this "trend".

wcg qualifers are much more important than a random proleague game at the start of the season
how is sea an example of this trend? he tears apart the proleague but doesnt perform in starleagues.
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tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
October 01 2007 03:08 GMT
#31
On October 01 2007 06:43 Last Romantic wrote:
KTF_Blaze aka Sync has been removed from the team, as has Ever)Z(aQua.

GooDFrienD and ChOJJa have been demoted to online practice partners.

source?
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
October 01 2007 03:13 GMT
#32
On October 01 2007 12:08 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2007 06:43 Last Romantic wrote:
KTF_Blaze aka Sync has been removed from the team, as has Ever)Z(aQua.

GooDFrienD and ChOJJa have been demoted to online practice partners.

source?


I don't keep every fifo link I come across, sorry.

It is on fifo, though. early september-ish?
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Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
October 01 2007 03:35 GMT
#33
Predictions

Savior > Flash
Kwanro < Hery (Ehh i wouldnt be surprised if kwanro wins either)
Cj < KTF
Xellos > Lucifer
Ace CJ > KTF (I Hope)
sAviOr...
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
October 01 2007 04:03 GMT
#34
On October 01 2007 12:08 tfeign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2007 06:43 Last Romantic wrote:
KTF_Blaze aka Sync has been removed from the team, as has Ever)Z(aQua.

GooDFrienD and ChOJJa have been demoted to online practice partners.

source?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59316
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
Wizard
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Poland5055 Posts
October 01 2007 04:16 GMT
#35
The fact that some people place Flash over sAviOr perplexes me.
sAviOr[gm] ~ want to watch good replays? read my blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/wizard
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
October 01 2007 04:32 GMT
#36
Why? They're 1:1 [admittedly both weren't exemplary games] and strong representatives of their races. sAviOr has the edge as an overall player, but that's far from saying Flash has no shot at all.
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ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 01 2007 04:32 GMT
#37
Hery is HORRIBLE at TvZ. His win rate vs Zerg is something like 26%.

I expect this series to go to ace (as with basically all of KTF's games).
bellsprout
Profile Joined June 2006
Australia219 Posts
October 01 2007 04:35 GMT
#38
flash vs savior will determine whether savior is back
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
October 01 2007 06:24 GMT
#39
sAviOr > Flash
Kwanro < Hery
CJ < KTF
Xellos > Lucifer
Iris > Nal_rA

Unfortunately I don't think KTF is going to take this one. To all those saying Xellos is in a slump... watch the MSL games. Probably the best I've seen Xellos play in a while. I think Flash has a decent chance vs. sAviOr, perhaps 40-60 for sAviOr, so I definitely wouldn't count him out.

Baekmagoji isn't imbalanced, if you look at the games played on there you'd see why. Darkelf has a specialist metal build on the map, which Calm countered with hydralisks..., Shark had a very good game vs Darkelf on the map, but I'd expect him to lose. Flash beat Oversky in a game where Oversky completely miss-timed his sunken colonies, which had little to do with the map (except perhaps that Oversky didn't realise the timings changed on that map), and Sea beat Firefist. So the only two games that can really count is Darkelf's metal build, and he seemed to have practised that build very hard. So yeah, I think we need to see how more balanced matchups fair on that map.

Hery beats Kwanro, not much more to say. I simply think that Hery is a better player.

Reach/Zergbong don't lose.

Iris should beat Nal_rA but it is definitely not a foregone conclusion. It all depends on what rA brings to the table I guess.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 01 2007 06:32 GMT
#40
flash > savior
hery > kwanro
cj > ktf
lucifer > xellos

KTF wins in 4
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