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outscar
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September 06 2022 12:57 GMT
#41
Gotta love how Afreeca works: when my inet flies it lags, and while there's trouble with my inet and every other site freezes it streams with zero lag lol.
sunbeams are never made like me...
outscar
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September 06 2022 13:00 GMT
#42
ZerO getting outplayed.
sunbeams are never made like me...
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50752 Posts
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#44
thats surprising.
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reincremate
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China2216 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-06 13:04:46
September 06 2022 13:03 GMT
#45
Group of upsets. Well done by Soulkey.
oEkY
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Germany649 Posts
September 06 2022 13:04 GMT
#46
2/2 LB :D
TMNT
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3131 Posts
September 06 2022 13:04 GMT
#47
Wow, who'd have thought that.
The player who everyone thinks will get massacred came out on top.
Then the weakest ZvZ player came second.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey770 Posts
September 06 2022 13:05 GMT
#48
Congrats SK. You are not short zvz anymore.
FunkyDragoon
Profile Joined January 2022
47 Posts
September 06 2022 13:06 GMT
#49
Minchura's ZvZ, supposedly so bad, actually got him through.
Interesting outcome. I expected Soma and Queen to advance lol.
M3t4PhYzX
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Poland4245 Posts
September 06 2022 13:11 GMT
#50
very happy about the final results!

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CeJo1
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32 Posts
September 06 2022 13:38 GMT
#51
SK defeated JD and Hero in the last ASL and now he defeated Soma and Queen. He really has overcome his ZvZ issues
Seacow
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden99 Posts
September 06 2022 15:22 GMT
#52
On September 06 2022 21:05 TMNT wrote:
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On September 06 2022 20:34 Seacow wrote:
On September 06 2022 20:22 TMNT wrote:
Snow made such a huge mistake in game 1 versus Queen there.
That is he didn't ban Arkanoid.
How do you even open on that map as Protoss lol.


I rarely watch bw, but how can you play such a map and manage to get completely blind sided by an obvious map feature? What am I missing? "Oh no, he used the backdoor and now I'm dead lol."

The bold part explains why you dont understand.

It's essentially a 2 hatch hydra bust from Zerg. On a normal map, IF you scout it on time, you put cannons at your single entrance to defend. On Arknoid, you scout it late, PLUS you have 2 entrances to defend. So it becomes that your cannons are late AND you don't know where to put them.


Thanks! So you're telling me the map is a coinflip away from becoming a BO win for Z? Sounds like bad map design, but I appreciate weirder maps (sc2 maps are all the same).
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MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
September 06 2022 16:42 GMT
#53
On September 06 2022 22:03 reincremate wrote:
Group of upsets. Well done by Soulkey.


Whats so upsetting? Snow is a beast.
-.-
namkraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2021
542 Posts
September 06 2022 17:02 GMT
#54
On hindsight, I don't think Neo Arkanoid is imba for zerg vs. protoss. It's simply a coin flip.
1. if zerg went for 1 base zergling rush, or 2 base hydras rusk, you can go for 14 nexus and simply out-macro him. Just put a pylon at each entrance and u'll be fine. in this case, don't build stargate.
2. if zerg went mutas rush, you can rush to corsairs and still beat him.
Any other scenario, toss will fail.

The same goes for zerg.

The only kind of advantage that Zerg has is free early scout. But again, only if he's lucky to scout in the right direction (33% chance).

We already saw Snow defeated Sacsri with scenario 2 above in KCM last week.
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Magic Powers
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Austria4478 Posts
September 06 2022 18:09 GMT
#55
Just got around to watching the vods, and I must say I had no idea Snow was capable of playing PvZ this well. Everything he did looked great to me, and his psi storms especially stood out.
That being said I think he wasn't challenged to the fullest. The true test will come when he has to prove he can claw his way out of a disadvantage.
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angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
327 Posts
September 06 2022 19:07 GMT
#56
this has gotta be a dream scenario for snow in ASL. He's in ro8, Soma and Queen are both eliminated, and he's guaranteed to not be playing either Soulkey or Light in his first match with Rush or Shine being two possible opponents.
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
September 06 2022 19:22 GMT
#57
wow snow rly showed up for his pvz day. SK played so many zvz today that must be hella nervewracking
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
September 06 2022 20:00 GMT
#58
so happy with the results of this group ^^
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-09-06 20:12:34
September 06 2022 20:04 GMT
#59
On September 07 2022 02:02 namkraft wrote:
On hindsight, I don't think Neo Arkanoid is imba for zerg vs. protoss. It's simply a coin flip.
1. if zerg went for 1 base zergling rush, or 2 base hydras rusk, you can go for 14 nexus and simply out-macro him. Just put a pylon at each entrance and u'll be fine. in this case, don't build stargate.
2. if zerg went mutas rush, you can rush to corsairs and still beat him.
Any other scenario, toss will fail.

The same goes for zerg.

The only kind of advantage that Zerg has is free early scout. But again, only if he's lucky to scout in the right direction (33% chance).

We already saw Snow defeated Sacsri with scenario 2 above in KCM last week.



u can not skip a stargate in Arkanoid vs Z, cause scout is so late that u may die to something as stupid as 1h muta.

arkanoid is in fact my favorite map, cause i think is good for protoss, 11 nexus 11 forge (ofc u can delay forge and get gate for faster tech) into sair reaver is kinda good here vs z , the only problem is that your natural nexus is oop but u can take 3rd quickly so it compensates later.

i found kinda odd of snow to go 1gate, instead of nexus 1st, but he knows better, so i wont complain.
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1112 Posts
September 06 2022 20:07 GMT
#60
On September 07 2022 04:07 angry_maia wrote:
this has gotta be a dream scenario for snow in ASL. He's in ro8, Soma and Queen are both eliminated, and he's guaranteed to not be playing either Soulkey or Light in his first match with Rush or Shine being two possible opponents.


My thoughts exactly. Worst case scenario for him would be to roll a 33% while Mini gets 2nd tomorrow -.-
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