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outscar
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outscar
2832 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51291 Posts
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
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TMNT
3296 Posts
The player who everyone thinks will get massacred came out on top. Then the weakest ZvZ player came second. | ||
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HOLYBATS
Turkey820 Posts
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FunkyDragoon
49 Posts
Interesting outcome. I expected Soma and Queen to advance lol. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4276 Posts
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CeJo1
32 Posts
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Seacow
Sweden99 Posts
On September 06 2022 21:05 TMNT wrote: The bold part explains why you dont understand. It's essentially a 2 hatch hydra bust from Zerg. On a normal map, IF you scout it on time, you put cannons at your single entrance to defend. On Arknoid, you scout it late, PLUS you have 2 entrances to defend. So it becomes that your cannons are late AND you don't know where to put them. Thanks! So you're telling me the map is a coinflip away from becoming a BO win for Z? Sounds like bad map design, but I appreciate weirder maps (sc2 maps are all the same). | ||
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MeSaber
Sweden1235 Posts
On September 06 2022 22:03 reincremate wrote: Group of upsets. Well done by Soulkey. Whats so upsetting? Snow is a beast. | ||
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namkraft
583 Posts
1. if zerg went for 1 base zergling rush, or 2 base hydras rusk, you can go for 14 nexus and simply out-macro him. Just put a pylon at each entrance and u'll be fine. in this case, don't build stargate. 2. if zerg went mutas rush, you can rush to corsairs and still beat him. Any other scenario, toss will fail. The same goes for zerg. The only kind of advantage that Zerg has is free early scout. But again, only if he's lucky to scout in the right direction (33% chance). We already saw Snow defeated Sacsri with scenario 2 above in KCM last week. | ||
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Magic Powers
Austria4478 Posts
That being said I think he wasn't challenged to the fullest. The true test will come when he has to prove he can claw his way out of a disadvantage. | ||
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angry_maia
332 Posts
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Lazyer
United States395 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2358 Posts
On September 07 2022 02:02 namkraft wrote: On hindsight, I don't think Neo Arkanoid is imba for zerg vs. protoss. It's simply a coin flip. 1. if zerg went for 1 base zergling rush, or 2 base hydras rusk, you can go for 14 nexus and simply out-macro him. Just put a pylon at each entrance and u'll be fine. in this case, don't build stargate. 2. if zerg went mutas rush, you can rush to corsairs and still beat him. Any other scenario, toss will fail. The same goes for zerg. The only kind of advantage that Zerg has is free early scout. But again, only if he's lucky to scout in the right direction (33% chance). We already saw Snow defeated Sacsri with scenario 2 above in KCM last week. u can not skip a stargate in Arkanoid vs Z, cause scout is so late that u may die to something as stupid as 1h muta. arkanoid is in fact my favorite map, cause i think is good for protoss, 11 nexus 11 forge (ofc u can delay forge and get gate for faster tech) into sair reaver is kinda good here vs z , the only problem is that your natural nexus is oop but u can take 3rd quickly so it compensates later. i found kinda odd of snow to go 1gate, instead of nexus 1st, but he knows better, so i wont complain. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1124 Posts
On September 07 2022 04:07 angry_maia wrote: this has gotta be a dream scenario for snow in ASL. He's in ro8, Soma and Queen are both eliminated, and he's guaranteed to not be playing either Soulkey or Light in his first match with Rush or Shine being two possible opponents. My thoughts exactly. Worst case scenario for him would be to roll a 33% while Mini gets 2nd tomorrow -.- | ||
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