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iCCup.Face
Profile Joined February 2014
Italy447 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-06 12:09:31
April 04 2021 15:36 GMT
#1
Event cancelled.
People have the right to be stupid. Some people abuse that privilege.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3343 Posts
April 04 2021 15:51 GMT
#2
Thanks! GL to all
Horang2 fan
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
April 04 2021 17:18 GMT
#3
love the amount of teams and a cool map pool

this going to be another great season of BWCL games

GL HF to all !
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Ikirouta
Profile Blog Joined November 2017
Finland727 Posts
April 06 2021 18:59 GMT
#4
I'll just copypaste what I wrote in the BWCL discord here.

I think its a shame that it has come to this and that you've decided to cancel Season 53, I urge you to reconsider.

I don't fully know what has happened and what was said but I'd just like to bring my opinion forth.

BWCL has been THE league for many players for a long time and still continues to be and I truly think it is a shame if a complete season gets cancelled / delayed because there is some drama between an admin and a player. I do not wish to point fingers towards anyone or say that person x is in the wrong / person y is in the right, but I think that all of us can agree on cancellation being the worst case scenario for the most people. Personally I really look forward to every BWCL Sunday, whether if I am playing or not. I always root for my clanmates to do well and follow the results of my friends in other clans aswell and I feel like its a huge injustice to the foreign community as a whole if the season gets cancelled or delayed. I've ran tournaments both in SC and other games in the past and I know that being an admin is usually a thankless job and people usually tend to focus on the negatives only, but I truly think the current situation is the absolute worst for everyone, the admins, the players, the sc community as a whole and that there has to be a way around this. So I urge admins and the people who have considered pulling out to reconsider what has been said, after all, we are humans and we make mistakes but we can learn from those mistakes and fix them.

Please bring S53 back to life, if not for yourselves, for the people like me who are exited about every round, who are cheering their friends on to do well, who are exited to join their clan in triumph or comfort them in a loss.
Pusan fan #1, bad sair/reaver enthuisiast. twitch.tv/ikirouta
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4165 Posts
April 06 2021 19:43 GMT
#5
What the fuck are you doing, guys.. come on? I thought we are all adults here?

BW is such a niche community.. we need every tournament, showmatch and league we can get..

cancelling a legendary league just because of some petty drama is dumb as shit. Please get your act together! Cheers.
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elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden176 Posts
April 06 2021 20:08 GMT
#6
oh wow, how old is roia?

Will he seriously cancel the league because he feels offended in public 2v2 games?
quakquak
Profile Joined April 2020
21 Posts
April 07 2021 04:08 GMT
#7
hilarious!! he must be crying with his head over a pillow xD
He deleted everything! priceless

(don't worry. We got screens)
Evilbringer
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic84 Posts
April 07 2021 07:40 GMT
#8
I don't really think, that best way, how to deal with that is making jokes from admin of BWCL. Yes - both sides were acting little bit like kids and noone want to step back.

Acting like BM and then be surprised, that someone is acting like BM to me (and vice versa) is... Weird. Really anyone in this community need to hear, that acts have it's consequences...?

But we are not giant community, we are older people (i am 38) and we are playing over 20 years old game. We need to hold together, if we want to keep this game alive. BWCL was always connected to SC:BW community, everything was smooth and we need to go back to this state asap.

We need to get both sides to the round table with cooler heads and just talk like adult people with each other. Sending screenshots, insults, being like bulls etc. will never lead into some clever results. It will make things only worse.

What about, instead of insulting more and more, just say: Hey, Face, THANK YOU for organising BWCL! It's awesome, we can play this very popular clan league even in 2021! Just now, please, do not throw everything out, just because you get in conflict with one person. And to be honest - it was childisch reaction in that game, where everything started. Bad reaction is to deal with that via BWCL too. Sadly, it will affect whole community. Please - get over it. And you, Marwin, what about to say: Sorry Face, i wasn't able to overcome some BM from you and i dealt with that in very bad way. I will deal with situation like that in future like adult too.

Othervise loosers in this situation are all of us. Think about that...
All creatures from my hell are going for You!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
April 07 2021 09:03 GMT
#9
You all acting like Marwin bm him back. What marwin did is ban Face from his games.

I dont see nothing wrong with that. Face is bm as fck and toxic as fck.I bet marwin is not the only one to do that to him.

Yeah he did a good job with bwcl keeping it alive and blablabla but this guy is bipolar. Outside his good organizer job he turns into evil when he plays 2v2.And this time he decided to punish Marwin in bwcl for no reason.

Btw this is a great opportunity to make BWCL better.Put decent maps. im okay with adding 1 new map from foreigner map makers. Change the format to the same STPL does. In no time u will have best league by far since teams cant use korean progamers. NaS will participate in such conditions.
Evilbringer
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic84 Posts
April 07 2021 09:19 GMT
#10
I don't wanna be rude at all eonzerg, but when you personally talking about BM and toxic, it sounds little bit funny. I once send raid to your stream (yea, with no more than 10 people, but still) and your reaction was (after you lost your game, which seems to me like your best pastime from times, when you tried to get with evil Protoss to S rank and you stayed at B at best). So your reaction was: What the fu*k! I should delete all these raids! Fu*k them all!

You are one of the most BM around here, so... You are great player and i know, i am noone for you. I can deal with it. But noone else is responsible for your loosing games, but you. Question is, if you are right person, to point at someone and say: "He is BM!"

Back to main theme here - BM is BM. Doesn't matter, how it looks like. BM's were both of them. And both of them are now acting like kids, from which toys were stolen. And whole community is suffering from it right now. This is why it needs to be solved ASAP. Or, nothing would prevent Eonzerg to make new Clan league. I think, his nerves would be pleased to deal with all possible issues before, during and after season.
All creatures from my hell are going for You!
sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary274 Posts
April 07 2021 09:40 GMT
#11
i don't know what this is all about. Only know no BWCL ? this is lol ... it was the only clan league. Do something this must be continued ! ! !
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-07 10:01:28
April 07 2021 09:55 GMT
#12
On April 07 2021 18:19 Evilbringer wrote:
I don't wanna be rude at all eonzerg, but when you personally talking about BM and toxic, it sounds little bit funny. I once send raid to your stream (yea, with no more than 10 people, but still) and your reaction was (after you lost your game, which seems to me like your best pastime from times, when you tried to get with evil Protoss to S rank and you stayed at B at best). So your reaction was: What the fu*k! I should delete all these raids! Fu*k them all!

You are one of the most BM around here, so... You are great player and i know, i am noone for you. I can deal with it. But noone else is responsible for your loosing games, but you. Question is, if you are right person, to point at someone and say: "He is BM!"

Back to main theme here - BM is BM. Doesn't matter, how it looks like. BM's were both of them. And both of them are now acting like kids, from which toys were stolen. And whole community is suffering from it right now. This is why it needs to be solved ASAP. Or, nothing would prevent Eonzerg to make new Clan league. I think, his nerves would be pleased to deal with all possible issues before, during and after season.


Not shit im bm and i hate protoss .Thats why u dont see me baning players from leagues or complaining that my oponent didnt tell me gg.. Hell usually i dont even care people bm me in game since i know i myself sometimes freak out.

The difference here is that do you have Roia/ face acting like a saint when he is not. Im the same everywhere.

Btw this is no true So your reaction was: What the fu*k! I should delete all these raids! Fu*k them all

But maybe my english is not the best so u didnt understand.
I speak how always someone raid me then this new community see me raging vs a protoss is not making a good impression . Cuz im always saying f*ck protoss delete this shit from the game etc.I will never blame anyone or insulting me for raiding.im not that crazy. even 1 raid is good. Sorry u took it this way. hf
Evilbringer
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic84 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-07 10:21:49
April 07 2021 10:14 GMT
#13
Well... Maybe you dont remember. I do. You said it very clearly. From that time i didnt sent you any raid. Not because you insulted me, but because it was insult to viewers i sent to you.

Sad it is not possible to find that exact moment in your history...

Edit. I remember it almost word from word.

At first you said: Fu*k all these hosts. I should deny all these hosts. Just fu*k it.

My response was: Hehe. It wasn't hosting, but raid.

Yours: Oh... Raid. It's big difference. Fu*k it anyway.

Maybe now you will remember it, maybe dont. I do not really care. I do not need you to apologize. It is your style of streaming, it's your stream, noone have right to tell you how you should deal with your viewers. If they accept it, that's fine. Just me, personally, stopped all possible raids to you and i have never visited your stream again. No big pain for you. I am not here to tell stories about how i am stressed about it or how you should be.

It was just about how it is funny, when someone like you is considering what is more BM.
All creatures from my hell are going for You!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-04-07 15:08:01
April 07 2021 10:22 GMT
#14
Okay guys, short and sweet: as you have already noted, the BWCL Head Admin Face has deleted the OP and announced the season is cancelled.

As i already wrote in the bwcl discord: We are currently figuring out a new launch date for bwcl season 53. There are a couple of things to figure out, i can not go into detail.

What i can say:
- we will announce the start date asaply when we know it
- we intend to bring a final solution to all outstanding issues when we do.

We kindly ask you to have a bit of patience for that process.

More importantly: We kindly ask to stop personal attacks against ICCUP.Face right here. This thread is dedicated to the bwcl s53 start, we will keep you updated, these personal attacks are derailing.

We ask kindly because we respect TL.nets moderation decision, but i hope that moderation here shares our point of view.

Questions on topic on the future of bwcl we will answer via pm/discord, or you wait for the announcement.
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