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HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
October 11 2020 11:49 GMT
#301
Snow was too greedy for not making more cannons..
He also kept producing probes which I find a bit odd..
BW forever!
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
October 11 2020 11:49 GMT
#302
On October 11 2020 20:45 AttackZerg wrote:
I don't understand how Snow's earlier 4 gates didn't outproduce flashes later 4 gates, was it all the money lost on cannons?



he lost a lot of probes too. I didn't notice but perhaps he even brought more over from the main, so his income rates probably weren't massively ahead by the time the final battle came around
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 11 2020 11:49 GMT
#303
On October 11 2020 20:45 AttackZerg wrote:
I don't understand how Snow's earlier 4 gates didn't outproduce flashes later 4 gates, was it all the money lost on cannons?


Cannons are a big mineral sink. Plus he lost probes.
WriterReV hwaiting!
mechzdeus
Profile Joined July 2018
88 Posts
October 11 2020 11:49 GMT
#304
Snow threw, so Flash got kinda lucky. Flash shouldn't have lost his 2nd reaver for little value, he could have waited for the shuttle and that second push would have been much stronger.
iLikeTrees
Profile Joined November 2010
United States5 Posts
October 11 2020 11:50 GMT
#305
"What do hero and bisu have in common? They both got wrecked by flash in ASL finals" - Arty
Its easy to see me through your looking glass
Anc13nt
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
1557 Posts
October 11 2020 11:50 GMT
#306
Snow didn't have an obs so he was blind to what flash was going to do after the failed initial push. Flash just as well could've expo'd and reaver drop and if Snow powered pure goons in that situation, he would be going allin.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2718 Posts
October 11 2020 11:50 GMT
#307
On October 11 2020 20:47 Zaibakk wrote:
Guys Snow lost a LOT of probes during 1st AND 2nd push... so it was not a throw by him at all. Infact he has a poor number of dragoons. GJ FLASH!
Yes you are correct. Flash killed like at least 7 probes and 10 cannons. The supply count was very close for a 1 base vs 2 base game.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 11 2020 11:50 GMT
#308
On October 11 2020 20:48 Anc13nt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 20:45 AttackZerg wrote:
I don't understand how Snow's earlier 4 gates didn't outproduce flashes later 4 gates, was it all the money lost on cannons?



i think flash killed too many probes. He was not as behind as other people said. He equaled Snow's supply but had shuttle with 2 reavers so he actually had a stronger army. i don't fault Snow for misreading though the 4 gate push. That is realty unconventional play.


Yeah, Flash stayed ahead in supply almost throughout. Goon + reaver will definitely beat pure goon. Game still seemed rather even after Snow defended the first push with huge losses. Perhaps Snow could've rushed to reavers himself?
gg no re thx
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 11:51:29
October 11 2020 11:51 GMT
#309
I really really thought Flash was not gonna make it just looking at their group not gonna lie.

Like seeing Hero and Snow (especially snow) on the same group sounded like no chance as random instead of his best race
this is a quote
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States692 Posts
October 11 2020 11:51 GMT
#310
It's not the first time I've seen snow lose to a hidden base. Flash gets his high from mind game wins today.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 11 2020 11:51 GMT
#311
What's the O/U there on flash 2-0 snow pvp

100 to 1??
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44122 Posts
October 11 2020 11:51 GMT
#312
On October 11 2020 20:50 Terrorbladder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 20:47 Zaibakk wrote:
Guys Snow lost a LOT of probes during 1st AND 2nd push... so it was not a throw by him at all. Infact he has a poor number of dragoons. GJ FLASH!
Yes you are correct. Flash killed like at least 7 probes and 10 cannons. The supply count was very close for a 1 base vs 2 base game.

^
this is a quote
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 11 2020 11:52 GMT
#313
And at the end how those reavers tanked the shots from the good survivors in the back, losing one and the other living by a thread... Flash so good.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 11 2020 11:54 GMT
#314
On October 11 2020 20:51 goody153 wrote:
I really really thought Flash was not gonna make it just looking at their group not gonna lie.

Like seeing Hero and Snow (especially snow) on the same group sounded like no chance as random instead of his best race

We all did. PvP and ZvZ are scary! Only makes today that much more amazing.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
October 11 2020 11:54 GMT
#315
I imagine Hero will stomp free and then Snow here. Hard for Snow to come back from what Flash just did to him.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 11 2020 11:54 GMT
#316
I was here.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 11 2020 11:54 GMT
#317
I hope jinjin or any of our Korean TL posters show us some reactions from the korean netizens to these games.

I would be very interested to see how they saw this and how they rate Flash's games.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-11 11:55:27
October 11 2020 11:54 GMT
#318
On October 11 2020 20:51 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 20:50 Terrorbladder wrote:
On October 11 2020 20:47 Zaibakk wrote:
Guys Snow lost a LOT of probes during 1st AND 2nd push... so it was not a throw by him at all. Infact he has a poor number of dragoons. GJ FLASH!
Yes you are correct. Flash killed like at least 7 probes and 10 cannons. The supply count was very close for a 1 base vs 2 base game.

^


the misplay by snow was making too many probes in the first place since he knew flash is committing to the 4 gate reaver allin. will have stabilise on production and get his own reaver out faster by cutting probes earlier
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
October 11 2020 11:57 GMT
#319
Lol, so Flash is now the best Protoss in the world? Since he beat Snow in BO3.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 11 2020 11:57 GMT
#320
On October 11 2020 20:54 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2020 20:51 goody153 wrote:
On October 11 2020 20:50 Terrorbladder wrote:
On October 11 2020 20:47 Zaibakk wrote:
Guys Snow lost a LOT of probes during 1st AND 2nd push... so it was not a throw by him at all. Infact he has a poor number of dragoons. GJ FLASH!
Yes you are correct. Flash killed like at least 7 probes and 10 cannons. The supply count was very close for a 1 base vs 2 base game.

^


the misplay by snow was making too many probes in the first place since he knew flash is committing to the 4 gate reaver allin. will have stabilise on production and get his own reaver out faster by cutting probes earlier


He had no probs already..."cuting probes" is not an option when you dont have them in the first place. Or do you mean before the first push by Flash?

He had no scouting available for him, he "didn't know" Flash was commiting.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
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