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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 02:33 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 10


Thursday, Oct 08 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


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Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 02:54 GMT
#2
let's go best! the quality of the games tonight should be excellent
angry_maia
Profile Joined August 2020
314 Posts
October 08 2020 05:08 GMT
#3
I'm really pulling for Best. I feel like he's the best hope for protoss this season (despite being far less accomplished in ASL than Snow).
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 07:02 GMT
#4
Dam this is a sick group, Light and Action to go through!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 07:04 GMT
#5
3 hours left!

The toughest group imo !

Agree with Dante , Light and Action on my LB
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 07:11 GMT
#6
This group... Quality of players and race spread, we might get some epic games.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 07:14 GMT
#7
really hope that this groups delivers and we are going to see some really amazing games today!

odi profanum vulgus et arceo
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland300 Posts
October 08 2020 07:23 GMT
#8
Hoping to see Larva and Best advance but Action is scary good!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 07:37 GMT
#9
Go Light go!

I really like Best and his PvZ in particular, but I just don't see him qualifying from this group. I just hope he gets to play three games against both larva and Action so we get to watch more.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Galacsia
Profile Joined February 2020
Chile161 Posts
October 08 2020 09:05 GMT
#10
I don't understand Korean completely, but by the looks of this video:


Snow's predictions are:
Best(W) vs Light
Action(W) vs Larva
Best(2) vs Action(1)
Light(2) vs Larva(0)
Light(2) vs Action(0)

And I hope he's right. Best has looked quite good throughout the year. So long as Best doesn't choke like he usually seems to do.
BeSt / Bisu ftw!!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 09:19 GMT
#11
Snow rooting for the fellow protoss. So cute!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 10:03 GMT
#12
All right !
Here we gogogo!

Even if my LB is on Action and Light, somehow I am rooting for Best (the macro beast) and Larva!

I like watching Larva on youtube cuz he has a great family and he is very funny (tho i don't understand anything haha)
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
October 08 2020 10:04 GMT
#13
English stream is up :
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 10:06:53
October 08 2020 10:06 GMT
#14
Mafia Zerg + Light, gogo!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 10:06 GMT
#15
I agree with Best here. Amazing games online but somehow poor perfomance in tournaments....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 10:07 GMT
#16
Best himself stating that he's sloppy offline and he's his own worst enemy, poor guy. I suddenly started cheering for him despite my prediction.
WriterReV hwaiting!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 10:08 GMT
#17
On October 08 2020 19:07 TaardadAiel wrote:
Best himself stating that he's sloppy offline and he's his own worst enemy, poor guy. I suddenly started cheering for him despite my prediction.

Yessss !!! I don't care about LB on this group !!! BEST AND LARVA GOGOGOGO !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 10:09 GMT
#18
dunno i can never cheer for best.

guy was horribly bad mannered during his progamer days
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 10:12 GMT
#19
cursed by snow, lmao
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 10:14:01
October 08 2020 10:13 GMT
#20
Poor Larva, his lack of ceremonies has nothing to do with him being a dad... It's just that he's not winning anymore. Still hoping for a comeback though.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 10:14 GMT
#21
On October 08 2020 19:09 Motivate wrote:
dunno i can never cheer for best.

guy was horribly bad mannered during his progamer days

Really ?

I follow BW scene since 2005 but I can't remember such moments with Best
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 10:17 GMT
#22
Oh Light... will this video get taken down because of Sia?
WriterReV hwaiting!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 10:20:00
October 08 2020 10:18 GMT
#23
On October 08 2020 19:14 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 19:09 Motivate wrote:
dunno i can never cheer for best.

guy was horribly bad mannered during his progamer days

Really ?

I follow BW scene since 2005 but I can't remember such moments with Best

i cant remember which game it was during proleague, but i think it was a PvT against someone with poor TvP. it was a tough game and best eventually won. in the post interview the question was something like "you almost lost that, what were you thinking?"

paraphrased, but i think best answered "i almost lost, but then i thought "you're playing against X, you can win... it's X after all"" LOL

that and celebrating before he's won (back in the day when people didn't do that shit and people freaked out about firebathero's ceremonies) etc.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 10:22 GMT
#24
Light needs to make it. Go!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 10:29 GMT
#25
light's macro is really suffering during this attack, almost 2k mins rn
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 08 2020 10:29 GMT
#26
What a game so far!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 10:33 GMT
#27
Best is doing an amazing job
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 10:34 GMT
#28
Those two reavers didn't do absolutely anything during that push, they unloaded and insta-died... that's rough
WriterReV hwaiting!
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 10:35 GMT
#29
best has to use ht spectacularly to get back into this game
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 10:40 GMT
#30
Er Best are you planning on ever getting Arbiters?
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 10:40 GMT
#31
I feel Artosis's commentary is strange lately. Feels like he's fighting Tasteless too much, and rooting for Terran way too much. Some bias is fine but he's taking it too far. His salty nature is way too strong in the commentary these days... needs to relax.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 10:42 GMT
#32
That Nexus IN YOUR FACE Light.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 10:43 GMT
#33
Wow Best actually winning this without Arbiters, Light is going to run dry soon
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 08 2020 10:45 GMT
#34
What a nice game !

The best group, like we predicted
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 10:45 GMT
#35
wow, nice game to start the night...
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 10:46 GMT
#36
lol light's face is totally emotionless... winning or losing
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 10:46 GMT
#37
26min both players 98 supply... wow
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
malloc256
Profile Joined April 2019
2 Posts
October 08 2020 10:47 GMT
#38
Are you telling me Best is just going to straight up Roll over Light, no Arbiters after losing a very early Nexus to a bunker rush?
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 10:48:34
October 08 2020 10:47 GMT
#39
On October 08 2020 19:40 VioleTAK wrote:
I feel Artosis's commentary is strange lately. Feels like he's fighting Tasteless too much, and rooting for Terran way too much. Some bias is fine but he's taking it too far. His salty nature is way too strong in the commentary these days... needs to relax.

huh? Tasteless does the exact same thing. almost everything tasteless says is from the protoss' perspective. they're both biased. If fact I I feel Artosis tries to make more of an effort commentating from the other race's perspective.
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 08 2020 10:48 GMT
#40
What a good game for a starter Very clever moves from both players!
⚀⚅
KarlHungus1908
Profile Joined May 2017
67 Posts
October 08 2020 10:48 GMT
#41
super game
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 10:49 GMT
#42
Well going from such a cool tvp to a zvz is anti climatic xD
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 10:49 GMT
#43
Poll: Recommend Light vs BeSt?

Yes (37)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

37 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Light vs BeSt?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 10:49 GMT
#44
Best's decision making was weird there, he had a lead around 15-25 min of the game but never cleared the bottom left main and teched to arbiters. As Artosis mentioned if you just survive as terran and continue expanding protoss can't break you without Arbiters.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
October 08 2020 10:49 GMT
#45
At no point did I actually think Best had a chance of winning that game...
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 10:50 GMT
#46
this game shows exactly how silly terran can be at times..

just makes my stomach hurt

gg..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 10:55 GMT
#47
On October 08 2020 19:49 KobraKay wrote:
Well going from such a cool tvp to a zvz is anti climatic xD

How dare you. ZvZ is great.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 10:58 GMT
#48
On October 08 2020 19:55 Motivate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 19:49 KobraKay wrote:
Well going from such a cool tvp to a zvz is anti climatic xD

How dare you. ZvZ is great.


I know but it is probably the most meh mirror for me.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:02 GMT
#49
3rd base taken!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:04 GMT
#50
I like this ZvZ! Cross spawn on a large map is a good thing for this matchup.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:06 GMT
#51
the inside of action's jacket wiggling from his mouse hand is really distracting lol
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 11:13:09
October 08 2020 11:07 GMT
#52
Wow, I bet wrong on a bo1 ZvZ
WriterReV hwaiting!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 11:07 GMT
#53
Poll: Recommend Action vs Larva?

Yes (12)
 
55%

If you have time (8)
 
36%

No (2)
 
9%

22 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Action vs Larva?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 11:07 GMT
#54
gg

larva back?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 11:07 GMT
#55
Larva seems pumped.

Unfortunately I dont see best going past action sooo he is out most likely :/
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:08 GMT
#56
hmm sometimes i prefer shorter action packed games than the passive cross spawn games that just end in one big microless muta fight where it's autowin for whoever has higher supply
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:08 GMT
#57
This group... that's right! Awesome!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 11:08 GMT
#58
On October 08 2020 20:07 TaardadAiel wrote:
Wow, I bet wrong on a bo ZvZ


we are robbed of a good match but Action should beat larva in a Bo3 if it comes to it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 11:12:31
October 08 2020 11:10 GMT
#59
that was a pretty decent game

hope for 3 amazing bo3's now!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 11:14:55
October 08 2020 11:13 GMT
#60
For Tasteless and Artosis:

This ZvZ was dictated by a total build order win by Larva, as Action went for a 9pool vs Larva 12 hath on a big map with cross position. Action was no able to do any damage from beggining, and from there technically there was no way for Action to win, he was straigth behind whole game.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 11:14 GMT
#61
On October 08 2020 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 20:07 TaardadAiel wrote:
Wow, I bet wrong on a bo ZvZ


we are robbed of a good match but Action should beat larva in a Bo3 if it comes to it.

That's what I'm actually upset about, I was really looking forward to Best vs larva. Best/Action is considerably more lopsided imo. But who knows, we might see an upset, I'll be more than happy to be wrong.
WriterReV hwaiting!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 08 2020 11:33 GMT
#62
Larva looking amazing this game!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 11:35 GMT
#63
On October 08 2020 20:33 mierin wrote:
Larva looking amazing this game!


yea, if he plays like this through the entire tournament i can definitely see him getting to semis at the least.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 11:37 GMT
#64
YES INFESTED CC
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:37 GMT
#65
omg...
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:40 GMT
#66
RIP zerg main!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 11:41 GMT
#67
Wow, gj by larva!
WriterReV hwaiting!
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 11:41 GMT
#68
GG hell yea larva!!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:41 GMT
#69
lul, i dont get why we dont see queens more... they always seem to work offline
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:42 GMT
#70
Incredible! Larva in the lead.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 11:42 GMT
#71
really amazing games today

i hope this lasts until the very end!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 11:42 GMT
#72
Larva still pumbed. Wow good game from him.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 11:43 GMT
#73
Larva had the entire game planned out, light always one step behind. Still a bit too slow paced for my taste.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 11:44 GMT
#74
Wtf Larva going for a 4 pool lol
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:44 GMT
#75
On October 08 2020 20:43 nojok wrote:
Larva had the entire game planned out, light always one step behind. Still a bit too slow paced for my taste.

yeah i find mech really boring to watch
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:44 GMT
#76
Larva rolling the dice
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:44 GMT
#77
interesting positions! cross spawn 4 pool vs forward 8 rax
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:46 GMT
#78
LOL light "WHY AM I SO BAD"
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 11:47 GMT
#79
Does this group deliver or what?
WriterReV hwaiting!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 08 2020 11:47 GMT
#80
Hell yeah Larva!!!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#81
Larva is in a hurry for dinner xD GG
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#82
What was that thing under larva's foot?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#83
Haha eww
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#84
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

Yes (33)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#85
Light screwed up there with the scv blocking his marine, he's pissed
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#86
oh my good is that an ulcer lol
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#87
yeeee larva!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#88
Poll: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

Yes (28)
 
90%

No (2)
 
6%

If you have time (1)
 
3%

31 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#89
light vs best rematch in the final match pls
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 08 2020 11:48 GMT
#90
foot zerg beats dlwogh haha
KarlHungus1908
Profile Joined May 2017
67 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#91
STARFOOTGAMER
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#92
OMG... Larva makes it!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2109 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#93
That foot is gross AF
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#94
that..

that was really sick..

and i'm not even talking about the bottom of Larva's foot..

damn! GG
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#95
On October 08 2020 20:48 Dante08 wrote:
Light screwed up there with the scv blocking his marine, he's pissed

how can you apparently be a top tier terran, spot lings on the way with an 8 rax and still lose lol
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
October 08 2020 11:49 GMT
#96
I could hear Artosis' soul leaving his body when the SCV and marines bumped into each other
Katkishka
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States649 Posts
October 08 2020 11:50 GMT
#97
Was that an ulcer on his foot or...
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 11:50 GMT
#98
Larva's body thread, when?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 11:51 GMT
#99
for those wondering, looks like larva probably has a collapsed arch.. that yellow thing was probably a callous. needs to see a podiatrist, sometimes that callous can even go to bone.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
October 08 2020 11:52 GMT
#100
It's a zerg's foot guys, stop overthinking it...
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 11:52 GMT
#101
On October 08 2020 20:48 nojok wrote:
What was that thing under larva's foot?


A plaster I think
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 11:53 GMT
#102
Why did Larva say this might be his last season?
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 08 2020 11:53 GMT
#103
dsgtng feet wtf


:D
hatred outlives the hateful
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 11:54 GMT
#104
The moment after you have watched 4 amazing gamea and you know what you'll remember is Larva's foot.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 12:02 GMT
#105
Wth is that map?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6177 Posts
October 08 2020 12:03 GMT
#106
On October 08 2020 20:51 Motivate wrote:
for those wondering, looks like larva probably has a collapsed arch.. that yellow thing was probably a callous. needs to see a podiatrist, sometimes that callous can even go to bone.

That yellow thing was a plaster, no need for doctor
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
October 08 2020 12:06 GMT
#107
Please start the next game..
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 08 2020 12:06 GMT
#108
On October 08 2020 21:03 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 20:51 Motivate wrote:
for those wondering, looks like larva probably has a collapsed arch.. that yellow thing was probably a callous. needs to see a podiatrist, sometimes that callous can even go to bone.

That yellow thing was a plaster, no need for doctor

Ouch, egg on my face
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
October 08 2020 12:07 GMT
#109
For those who missed Larva's foot ceremony:

[image loading]

It's just a yellow plaster.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 08 2020 12:07 GMT
#110
What a fantastic group so far. Good day to be a BW fan!
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 08 2020 12:08 GMT
#111
This map is bonkers haha
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 12:13 GMT
#112
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 1?

Yes (23)
 
96%

No (1)
 
4%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 12:14 GMT
#113
another FAN-TA-STIC game! that was so fun to watch ^^

really great stuff
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 12:19 GMT
#114
I hope this is 2 hat spire into 5 hat.

mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
October 08 2020 12:23 GMT
#115
OgreZergGamer hahaha
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 08 2020 12:25 GMT
#116
Artosis completely lost it ahahah
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 12:26 GMT
#117
Actions greed is insane.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 12:28 GMT
#118
Failed mindgame looks dumb.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 12:31 GMT
#119
Poll: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

If you have time (11)
 
52%

Yes (7)
 
33%

No (3)
 
14%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 12:32:56
October 08 2020 12:31 GMT
#120
Disappointing play in all three games from Action tbh
EMPaThy789
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand878 Posts
October 08 2020 12:41 GMT
#121
Very interesting build from Action. The build seemed very tailored to denying scouting then outgreeding the protoss. The timings were very crisp with the scourge coming out just in time to deny Best from seeing the second gas (or rather lack of) even though best sent the sair towards the nat as soon as it poped out. Action purposely stayed on 3 overlords at 26 supply, then gas tricked to make 2 scourge to ensure the timing was hit.

Action's decision to go into mutas was very questionable however imo after seeing so many corsairs. Letting best get his third up at 11 for absolutely no reason was also highly questionable.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 12:47 GMT
#122
Best is not the protoss to play cute against.

He is what he always was, a macro monster. Once his gateways are powered on, dude makes units.

Best looks in form and contrary to the fanbois Best is threat to every Terran who ever lived including Master Light.

Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 12:51 GMT
#123
is this the only game of bw where an arbiter's dps might actually affect something
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 12:53 GMT
#124
Best is dead right?
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 12:54 GMT
#125
What a confusing game.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 08 2020 12:54 GMT
#126
I can't beleive Best broke out from the contain. I thought Best was 100% dead. I guess Light ran out of scans.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 12:55:58
October 08 2020 12:55 GMT
#127
On October 08 2020 21:53 AttackZerg wrote:
Best is dead right?

Should be. But Light was too careless with his tanks in multiple cases during this push. And didn't throw down a 3rd when he had the money, so he's kind of all in now.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 12:59 GMT
#128
Light totally missed best's 4th, he had the opportunity to send a few vultures at multiple points.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 13:00 GMT
#129
Forget I ever wrote anything about this group, OK?

WAY TO GO, DOH JAE WOOK!
WriterReV hwaiting!
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 13:00 GMT
#130
crackerjack games tonight
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 13:01 GMT
#131
gg

what a ridiculously high caliber of games today, as expected from this group and basically the best pvt mu of all time
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 13:01 GMT
#132
Man what a game, if Light had kept 2-3 more tanks in his first 2 pushes he wins that, no way Best pushed out of his nat there
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 13:02 GMT
#133
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

Yes (33)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 13:02 GMT
#134
this has to be one of the sickest ro16 sets of games ever..

dayum

i'm lovin it
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 13:03:27
October 08 2020 13:03 GMT
#135
Ye, nice fighting back by Best but he himself was shaking his head at one point, knowing that it should've been over. Light didn't execute cleanly enough and gave it away.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 13:07 GMT
#136
On October 08 2020 22:00 TaardadAiel wrote:
Forget I ever wrote anything about this group, OK?

WAY TO GO, DOH JAE WOOK!


Fear not. Light was supposed to be the easy pick xD
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
October 08 2020 13:07 GMT
#137
Light looks shaken
hatred outlives the hateful
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 13:08 GMT
#138
Even down 0/1, Light has a decent shot to take the match. As good as Best is, Light is a damn masta.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 13:14 GMT
#139
wtf is happening
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 13:14 GMT
#140
the hero reavers, omg
Javah
Profile Joined August 2010
France739 Posts
October 08 2020 13:15 GMT
#141
Those reavers were cute but Light's army is way too strong.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 08 2020 13:16 GMT
#142
I thought those two shuttles would evacuate the probes but nope.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 13:17 GMT
#143
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

Yes (26)
 
90%

If you have time (2)
 
7%

No (1)
 
3%

29 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
October 08 2020 13:17 GMT
#144
Two times in a row light managed to sneak around best's army to siege in front of his base.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 13:17 GMT
#145
Light is incredible. Great game.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 13:18 GMT
#146
droping the reaver in the other clump would probably get him a fair shot at the game but oh well, very entertaining and a good job by Best nevertheless!

Great games today
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 13:18 GMT
#147
Dam that was some next level army movement from Light, totally duped Best there. That army never gets to the natural in time if the reavers are sitting up the ramp.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
October 08 2020 13:18 GMT
#148
The games tonight are sick!
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 13:19 GMT
#149
Today's games... What a delight!
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 08 2020 13:19 GMT
#150
On October 08 2020 22:07 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2020 22:00 TaardadAiel wrote:
Forget I ever wrote anything about this group, OK?

WAY TO GO, DOH JAE WOOK!


Fear not. Light was supposed to be the easy pick xD

larva was least probable of the three to beat Light and then Best eliminated Action, that's insane for me. But I'm not complaining, one less Zerg for the Ro16 ^^
WriterReV hwaiting!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 13:20 GMT
#151
10 years~ years after these guys became flag-bearers for there races and the games are just as exciting, Best doesn't even look aged.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 08 2020 13:22 GMT
#152
Larva is an impossible player to predict.
He goes from Top of the zerg-world play to shine or roro. Just a wildcat of a player.

If we ever see 'full form Larva', I think he will win a league lossless or near it.
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 08 2020 13:29 GMT
#153
Guess hoping for a great 3rd game was to much. Looks like Best should own now.
Artosis loves Starcraft
whylessness
Profile Joined November 2010
United States376 Posts
October 08 2020 13:29 GMT
#154
dude, best, yes! the curse from snow is lifted
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 13:29 GMT
#155
oh no.... Light needs a small miracle now.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 13:30 GMT
#156
SCV killing a reaver always is so reinvigorating! Revenge xD
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1407 Posts
October 08 2020 13:33 GMT
#157
I think Light mindgamed himself early on. No idea where his first push was going, right when the first shuttle came in, but that cost him a lot of momentum.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#158
Poll: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

If you have time (12)
 
57%

Yes (8)
 
38%

No (1)
 
5%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Game Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#159
100% blame qikz
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#160
GG Best. Nicely done!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#161
I can't believe it... Larva in, Light out.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3116 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#162
lol D-matrix shuttle. So sad to see light get eliminated.
Artosis loves Starcraft
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 08 2020 13:35 GMT
#163
That observer zoom in on the d-matrix shuttle at the last second.
Garrl
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Scotland1972 Posts
October 08 2020 13:36 GMT
#164
gg! The two players i wanted to get through.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
October 08 2020 13:36 GMT
#165
Good to see Best so happy! WELL DONE! <3
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
October 08 2020 13:37 GMT
#166
lul now rush is the only terran hope remaining
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
October 08 2020 13:37 GMT
#167
So Rush will be our Terran hope from now on? Geez.

Too late to call Flash back now to save our face :/
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4195 Posts
October 08 2020 13:38 GMT
#168
excellent games today

seriously awesome stuff

GGs!
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
WTCO
Profile Joined September 2013
United States646 Posts
October 08 2020 13:40 GMT
#169
happy to see Best going through... but on the other hand rip my 0/2 liquibets.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
October 08 2020 13:42 GMT
#170
On October 08 2020 22:37 KobraKay wrote:
So Rush will be our Terran hope from now on? Geez.

Too late to call Flash back now to save our face :/


Dam didn't realize Rush is the only Terran left. In before Flash rolls Terran 100% and wins ASL lol
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
October 08 2020 13:42 GMT
#171
I was rooting for zero/larva to take the tourney. Now, I will root for best.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
October 08 2020 13:45 GMT
#172
Good games, gotta catch that first one now
asel
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Germany1599 Posts
October 08 2020 13:56 GMT
#173
This was an awesome group. BeSt looked quite solid.
eSTRO for life | #3 Sea.Really fan! | GGoliath! | aeterna societas honoris | cbta~ | Flash makes Terran look like Toss | aka RevaL
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
October 08 2020 13:59 GMT
#174
I've never played BW but I've been watching it more and more. Just a great game with such depth.
The games lately in ASL RO16 have been so good man.

Awesome content.
whaski
Profile Joined December 2012
Finland577 Posts
October 08 2020 14:45 GMT
#175
Glad for Best. Light was super dissapointing, losing like that to Larva psssh.
it's not just a music it's something else
Sorusaba
Profile Joined October 2017
276 Posts
October 08 2020 14:53 GMT
#176
just finished watching this group and damn what an absolutely BONKERS set of games

HELL YEAH LARVA!!
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
October 08 2020 16:38 GMT
#177
On October 08 2020 23:53 Sorusaba wrote:
just finished watching this group and damn what an absolutely BONKERS set of games

HELL YEAH LARVA!!


Yeah, today was a good day of games
Szinkler
Profile Joined July 2018
Hungary394 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-08 18:07:43
October 08 2020 18:02 GMT
#178
These games, just wow! I think it was one of the best groupdays in ASL if not the best.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1180 Posts
October 08 2020 18:45 GMT
#179
Best received something north of $3K in donations on his afreeca stream earlier after his performance. Decent payday I'd say just for a group stage qualification.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 08 2020 19:12 GMT
#180
Go Best!
May the BeSt man win.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
October 08 2020 20:58 GMT
#181
Holy bonkers, probably one of the best if not best ro16 of all time! What did we do especially in these dark times to deserve such high quality games? Now that's the BeSt I wanted to see all years, if he continues to play like this he can smash anybody. Larva's strategic play was awesome and going 4 pool on 4 player map was insane. Action played really bad, felt like he already gave up on 2nd game vs. BeSt. Light played monstrously but in the end his opponents outplayed him.
sunbeams are never made like me...
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
October 08 2020 22:03 GMT
#182
Really great games.
Glad to see Best advancing.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2000 Posts
October 09 2020 01:13 GMT
#183
Here is a higher res pic, it's just a sticker guys

[image loading]

https://i.imgur.com/63NV6Th.jpg
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afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States337 Posts
October 09 2020 01:28 GMT
#184
On October 09 2020 10:13 razorsuKe wrote:
Here is a higher res pic, it's just a sticker guys

[image loading]

https://i.imgur.com/63NV6Th.jpg


If anyone is curious about it - http://www.topstarnews.net/news/articleView.html?idxno=838327
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44125 Posts
October 09 2020 06:54 GMT
#185
I am sooooo glad larva made it !
this is a quote
kidcrash
Profile Joined September 2009
United States620 Posts
October 09 2020 07:33 GMT
#186
Ive always felt like Best's potential to be a top 3 protoss was held back by choking in decisive matches. Maybe this season he could prove us wrong once?
JoinTheRain
Profile Blog Joined September 2018
Bulgaria408 Posts
October 09 2020 13:28 GMT
#187
It's surely weird to see the best terran out of the ASL but Best obviously played better. What am I saying, the games were amazing! The only thing that's missing in this ASL is Effort.
The subject-matter of the art of living is each person's own life.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8045 Posts
October 09 2020 13:48 GMT
#188
On October 09 2020 22:28 JoinTheRain wrote:
It's surely weird to see the best terran out of the ASL but Best obviously played better. What am I saying, the games were amazing! The only thing that's missing in this ASL is Effort.

AND JAEDONGGGGG !!!!!!!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
thislooksgreat1
Profile Joined January 2020
59 Posts
October 09 2020 13:53 GMT
#189
Fantastic games!
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8100 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 16:29:40
October 09 2020 16:27 GMT
#190
Really great games, happy to see Best do great. Definitely not the 2 players I foresaw advancing, sucks that Light is out making Rush the only T in the Ro8. Maybe though we'll get our first PvZ finals in like what, 11 years? Counting only "premiere" starleagues (OSL/MSL/KSL/ASL) I don't think there's been a PvZ final since Jangbi vs Luxury in that one MSL?
Free Palestine
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 16:43:02
October 09 2020 16:39 GMT
#191
Great games!

Every player really gave their all and showed some neat moves: Action's cunning bag of builds, Light's single dummy turret to fake a 3rd expo, Larva's mass queens, Best's ninja DTs.... Too many to count!

BW is well alive! Looking forward for Flash's random!
gg no re thx
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 21:32:59
October 09 2020 18:46 GMT
#192
Those were really awesome games. Don't understand why Light played so conservative though. He has shown he can play the mass exp style before, he totally should have used that. There's no way he would've lost using that. He was so dedicated to his few bases it cost him the victory. All the best to Best though, I love the guy, but yea, this was more of a misplay by Light. And Larva... Well he's just the best
its me
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 09 2020 20:09 GMT
#193
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.

On October 10 2020 01:27 Ideas wrote:
Really great games, happy to see Best do great. Definitely not the 2 players I foresaw advancing, sucks that Light is out making Rush the only T in the Ro8. Maybe though we'll get our first PvZ finals in like what, 11 years? Counting only "premiere" starleagues (OSL/MSL/KSL/ASL) I don't think there's been a PvZ final since Jangbi vs Luxury in that one MSL?

There was EffOrt vs Bisu in VNSL which was essentially ASL's predecessor (almost like ASL0 lol). However, you are right. We haven't had a PvZ finals in all 9 editions of ASL so perhaps we may get it in this one.
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-09 21:33:08
October 09 2020 21:28 GMT
#194
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 10 2020 01:01 GMT
#195
On October 10 2020 06:28 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.


Best seemed rather 'sloppy' with engagements throughout. Even in the last game vs Light, his repeated drops were rather inefficient in terms of economic trade-off. But seems to me that Best is a macro beast, and that's all part of his gameplan - take the occasional tactical losses in order to gain a bigger strategic advantage. Though inefficient, the engagements distracted Light, forced him to turtle, and allowed Best to freely expand and control the map.

The flip side of such gameplan is that Best often don't micro his army as well as, say, Bisu. But ultimately it's a feature, rather than a bug, of his overall approach to the game.

(I'm basing this notion from the group games. I'm not an avid follower of Best's games. So do correct me if I'm wrong).
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 10 2020 02:33 GMT
#196
On October 10 2020 06:28 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2020 05:09 BigFan wrote:
Fun games and really close series. Larva beating Light 2-0 and advancing in first place is pretty wild. He looked pretty solid overall. BeSt beating action also felt really odd, but I chuck this to Action's mind games backfiring hard in that second game on Benzene. Should've just rolled with mass hydras or something. First game between them was just weird.

I'm surprised no one is talking about the first BeSt vs Light game. BeSt threw away like 15 zealots to pure mines when he tried to bust Light's mining base at the end of the game and Light barely had much of an army there (think like 5 tanks?). I facepalmed hard when I saw that. Not to say this was a guaranteed 100% win, but that move essentially sealed his fate that game. It's somewhat akin to Light's marine blocking the SCV from blocking the choke and allowing the lings from Larva's 4 pool to make it in, except this was an AI thing while BeSt chose not to split and had all his zealots evaporate before making much contact with the tanks.


Yea that was a big throw but I doubt it woulda made him win the game anyway. It was a shame cause it coulda been longer game and possibly he would still have a chance. He was playing from so far behind that game though. I mean its already amazing he made it that long, but I dont think he would've ever won that game. Still a great game for Best though, despite losing.

Edit: I do think with perfect templar control he could've won that game. Best nowhere near played perfectly, but it was damn good. I mean same can be said for Light of course. But we like to root for the loser.

I disagree. Light's base on the left side was getting mined out and was recently attacked by BeSt who killed some workers too. The main mining base for Light was the one on the right. If BeSt controlled the engagement much better than he did, he shuts down the mining of Light and puts him on a timer seeing as BeSt still has 2 mining bases which had a good number of resources as I recall. Not to mention that Light's overall army wasn't as big which would favour BeSt if they were to engage at that moment. BeSt however throwing away like 15 zealots due to not splitting was huge at that point. Go back and watch the game (I should too incase) but I remember a huge amount of zealots evaporating to a mine field. Even as a macro beast, losing that many is essentially gg in this kind of situation imo.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
October 10 2020 02:53 GMT
#197
What an amazing night
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Geographer
Profile Joined December 2010
United States185 Posts
October 10 2020 05:10 GMT
#198
These were amazing games but I'm disappointed there will only be one terran in the quarterfinals.
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
October 10 2020 06:44 GMT
#199
Reading through these comments, I was bewildered: 4 pool? Two games vs Light? Seems I missed one game.
BW
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-12 14:41:01
October 12 2020 14:40 GMT
#200
Well all the games are available here :+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za-zo-6QdHY
dunno how you missed one

This group was so sick, we need more content like that, too bad KSL is dead
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