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Hi guys,
As I mentioned at the other thread Foreigners in ASL, I want to make a "Ultimate" tournament.
Long story short, I was fortunate enought to made some money playing poker, then bitcoins and now Tesla shares. I was thinking about that for a really long time. It is like a dream to me. Since WCG times, I was always dreaming to host a tour like that. Some people have dreams buying a Lambo, others buyng a house with pool, mine is hosting a BW tournament. I know, I am an idiot 
Since a do not have any expirience with that and I do not know nobody at the BW scene, i am looking for help from you guys. If someone thinks it can help me, please contact me to see if it is even possible to do something like that.
Here is what i think of (Feel free to add if something is stupid and have to be changed or any other ideas are more than welcome). For a rough calculations I see that ASL prize pool is around $45 000. I am willing to make it $100 000 + another up to $50 000 for any other expenses which may occure (blizzard fee, hotels, fights, arena rent, food, staff, some money for the "helpers", etc. So the total budget will be no more than $150 000. If someone is willing to volunteer, I'll very much appreciate it. Keep in mind, I am not a millionaire . I mean, I might be, but only on paper. I don't own a ferrari, I don't wear Gucci and I dont have cash bricks in my pockets. I am just a normal guy with a passion for BW since 1998 :D
I have no interest to do like 10 small foreigner tournaments, simply because I am not a fan of that. I like KSL/ASL. BUT for sure i would love to have some foreigners to participate. I am thinking to be like ASL, where tier 4/5 will be replaced with foreigners. Foreigners will be invitation only. I know their chances to cash in are slim to none, but i will pay flight tickets, hotels, food, big party, everything. So it will be nice trip, nice experience + a boost to their streams. If you have any other suggestion, please feel free to let me know, i am open to almost everything.
I would love to have guys like Grrr, Android, Fisheye, Darco, etc but I know it will be pointless for them and not even know if they'll be interested in such a thing. Still, few days free vacantion and a sick party (drinks on me :D ), remebering the good old days, it's something to consider
I am not so dump, i know this whole thing is a massive -EV, burning money.
![[image loading]](https://media4.giphy.com/media/B2rrMxDryxTzrONSKd/giphy.gif)
I am not looking for any returns. However, if somehow we can get any returns (if all the community buy some stupid merch, which they will never wear , some sponsors, youtube, afreeca, donations, GAMIN MONITOAH etc) I promise all will go for season 2. I am not looking for any profits, i will not cash in even $0.01. If somehow we can get any returns so our burn rate is not 100%, i have some friends which maybe, just maybe I can convice to burn some more money for season 2
If you guys have any ideas for other return channels, please let me know.
I am confident that whole thing, even if possible to do, cannot go without afreeca. Not only because players like Flash cannot participate if not in cooboration with afreeca, but for many other reasons.
I hope Tasleless and Artosis will be ok to be commentators, cuz I really like them and laugh a lot with them. Dunno how much they're paid, but I hope to accept some pay cut in the name of BW :D
So that's pretty much it. ASL format, with some invitation only foreigners (of course to be the best F, but it will be good to be with good streams to attract more attention) + maybe top 5 Pro's invitation + others with qualifier tournament. Maybe even few groups bigger than ASL, dunno. You will say guys.
ZZZero.O and Fujikura already contacted me and it looks they are on the team. BUt still looking for a ton more help and suggestions/ideas.
Once again, I am looking for anybody who can help me organise that thing. I have no expirience at all and I know nobody. I can offer only money.
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I have a background in brick and mortar event organization and management and retail operations and I have worked as a consultant or owner-operator of 39 stores from inception to operation.
Anything I can do, I will do for free.
ZZZero and Rus_brain have been the hero's of non-korean starcraft.
About casters, you might need more than 2, events in RL are strenuous, I would recommend Nyoken and Gypsy as secondary or alternate casters. Not as funny as Tasteless, but Nyoken is Artosis of the west.
I think one of the best side effects of this event, would be a deserved payday for the casters who have fought for and achieved all of the access to Korea we currently have.
Anyone involved feel free to contact me, besides training bw, I am doing nothing for at least the next few months.
My instincts say, a lot of the precious knowledge to pull his off, is lurking in the background of tl.net and is currently slumbering in prosperity in the sc2 community. Those ESL guys put out quality products, same with the Homestory cup people. 100% event success.
Also, AMD could be a good sponsor to target, Intel and their high FPS chips have enjoyed years of dominance in esports while streamers, players would be (imo) better suited to a chip that is a beastly gaming pc + a server simultaneously.
This is my 2020 wish (and ET on Venus)
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send me the money directly, ill handle everything it for you
princeofpersia@freedomgamers.com
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On September 23 2020 01:50 TT1 wrote:
send me the money directly, ill handle everything it for you
persianprince@freedomgamers.com
Done. Check your balance 
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On September 23 2020 01:52 martoto088 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2020 01:50 TT1 wrote:
send me the money directly, ill handle everything it for you
persianprince@freedomgamers.com Done. Check your balance
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Have you considered partnering with Rus_Brain (and Esport.fund) and grow the RCG events? Maybe organize what you have in mind as a side-event (or co-hosted event)?
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On September 23 2020 02:01 oxKnu wrote:
Have you considered partnering with Rus_Brain (and Esport.fund) and grow the RCG events? Maybe organize what you have in mind as a side-event (or co-hosted event)?
I am open to anything, but I have no idea what RCG event is. Russian Cyber Games? If so, how we will make top koreans to participate? It just has to be an ofline event in Korea. It has to be.
I have never missed ASL/KLS/OSL/SKY event for the last 10-15 years, big fan, but on the other hand never been interested and watched non korean events. So i am a bit off. Dunno how many viewers might have comapring to asl event.
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Thanks for the support to the scene!
I'd suggest breaking it up into smaller tournaments. I think longevity of the scene is more important than a one-time flash. With a longer time frame and more events, people will train and create communities for a longer lasting impact. Look at the BSL series -- 10 seasons guaranteed up front, which allowed people to look forward to something and maintain interest. I joined starting BSL7 and knew that there were more tournaments, so it was okay to keep training. But certainly it's up to you on whether that's something you do want to promote.
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On September 23 2020 02:09 martoto088 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2020 02:01 oxKnu wrote:
Have you considered partnering with Rus_Brain (and Esport.fund) and grow the RCG events? Maybe organize what you have in mind as a side-event (or co-hosted event)?
I am open to anything, but I have no idea what RCG event is. Russian Cyber Games? If so, how we will make top koreans to participate? It just has to be an ofline event in Korea. It has to be. I have never missed ASL/KLS/OSL/SKY event for the last 10-15 years, big fan, but on the other hand never been interested and watched non korean events. So i am a bit off. Dunno how many viewers might have comapring to asl event.
RCG is a lan event. I think the prize pool is around 10-15K. It's foreigner only, WCG-like qualifier format + main tournament.
A few years ago there was the Zotac Cup, which was a mixed event (foreigner + koreans). I guess the basis of having the korean pros there (Larva) was invitation + appearance fee.
Inside Korea it seems that the events are organized by Afreeca and a lot of the main pro gamers are contractually obligated to play in them, for them.
The ASTL tournament license is basically the KSL tournament that got transferred over from Blizzard Korea.
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If you truly love broodwar i would think about supporting the foreign scene gangnam style since korean scene is plenty healthy atm. Get Artosis/Tasteless to cast the games and fund BSL for 5+ years. I guarantee viewership will be 1~3k instead of usual 300~800 viewers. Viewership will quadriple. Have Scarlett participate as well. Cooperate with zzzero, rus.brain, and other tourney organizers.
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I hear you guys.
What about if we combine it? I mean to host a BSL foreign qualifier with let's say $10k prize pool and top 8 (depends how many groups are in the main tour) to go to Korea on top of prize pool?
I still want a big spalsh. 10 small tournaments are not my thing, i might be wrong tho. I've always aimed for big things. If you dream for a ferrari, will you buy 10 ford mondeos?
Maybe I am just a dreamer and tottaly wrong, but with in live donations, merch, sponsors, why not to get 50% return? If people are willing to pay 10 bucks to see random easter europen girl titties, why not to pay for a event like that? I mean it will be free, of course, but donations are more than welcome. I hope to down burn rate to 50%+ and if we do that, i can promise you it will be yearly event for a long time.
I have already sent emails to few big companies which may be interested. If 5 of them chip in for $10k (which is nothing to them) we are done. I have big hopes, I think it is double. In my mind is much easier to find 5 sponsors for a big event, than 1 for many small events.
Have Scarlett participate as well
Scarlett is on top of the list for sure
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I don't know if I can say that I'm on the team, but for sure I will try to help as much as it will be possible, if it will be necessary.
Organizing few smaller events before the actuall tournament can be only good and work as a boost for main tournament, this way people are finding out about the event and starting to cheer for their players.
Anyway, good luck, looking forward for more details!
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On September 23 2020 02:42 martoto088 wrote:
I hear you guys.
What about if we combine it? I mean to host a BSL foreign qualifier with let's say $10k prize pool and top 8 (depends how many groups are in the main tour) to go to Korea on top of prize pool?
Sounds like a great idea.
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Will this event be streamed on mixer?
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The Korean scene is still active without another $100k tournament but this would boost the foreign scene a lot.
I hope you could spilt it into at least two events. One $25k for non korea, one $75k to korean + top 8 of the non kr tournament might be cool. This way you are still hosting two of the biggest events in BroodWar since a very long time and everyone would be able to enjoy even more games.
Also pleaaaaaase split the price pool down to the top 8 if possible. If always only the top 3 make a nice amount you'll only see the same people being able to invest time in it because they have a realistic chance of winning.
If someone is "just" a top 10 player and still might be able to grab $1k that would be great.
Pricepool idea:
Non Kr:
#1 $10k
#2 $6k
#3 $4k
#4 $2k
#5 - 8 $1k
= $24k total
KR + World
#1 $25k
#2 $15k
#3 $10k
#4 $5k
#5 - #8 2.5k
= $ 65k total. = $89k grand total. This gives you some additional $11k to cover costs for production, casters and other thinks like maybe half paid trip costs etc. With hopefully another $10 - 20k from sponsors this should be enough to cover most of the side expenses if you can invest $120k + x
Hope this is not just a joke, this would be an awesome event(s).
I would be willing to help. Have organized BW, and SC2 pro Teams for nearly 10 years and some experience in event management. If this is really happening and you could need some help.
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This is about as fictitious as my girlfriend and our insane sex life.
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On September 23 2020 03:42 overt wrote:
Will this event be streamed on mixer?
Well, that is a great idea! That could be a good promotion for the new Game Pass.
I will contact them for sure. I dont know how these big companies (afreeca, youtube, mixer) works, but i imagine is a pain to make them work together. Afreeca to allow stream on mixer, mixer on afreeca, twitch... on top of that blizzard to agree... I think that will be hell, but worth the shot.
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