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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:02:48
August 25 2019 10:01 GMT
#1

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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
August 25 2019 10:04 GMT
#2
despite how I feel about third place matches(pointless), they still deserve a proper thread.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:04 GMT
#3
You are Legend. Thank you sir


My thoughts:

Action v Rain

Their match comes at a very interesting time for PvZ. Since the ZvP revolution that Jaedong authored starting with the infamous ZvP vs Bisu on bluestorm. For years, zerg has had a stable way to deal with any variant of Toss Fe. Not that Protoss couldn't win but Zerg theory had several comfortable middlegame paths. Then. This year, everything changed.

Not 1 dominant Protoss, but a gaggle of them began to pick apart Zergs predictable greed and tech choices. The hive, compared to its history, have been getting stiff armed by Protoss players. Protoss, at least somewhat lead by Mini have been pushing every edge and at times just flat about abusing zergs predictability.

And now ... now after nearly 18 years, Zerg have returned to the original approach to ZvP. Hydra as fast as possible and keep making them while you take the map. Things are a changing in ZvP.

Not that the new build is an auto-win, it's not, but now for the first time since Jaedong and then Effort, we have Zergs building wild variants, abusing the darkness that hydra place protoss in and abusing the thread of hydra busts.

Action is not the Queen of Blades or the King of Dogcatchers but he is a strong macro zerg, who is definitely up-to-date with the brand new field of opening theory that has arrived. And he choked so hard in his last match that he is definitely in mood to attempt a Rain crush.

... Rain.

Rain is either the most overhyped (he's not) or the most slept on (he's not) protoss of our time. Everyone has pretty crappy opinions about him.

Rain is a champion. Period. He has never had the best micro or macro of any protoss. Or the best builds. According to some he is bad at every matchup or just good pvp or blah blah blah. The fact is, this guy shows up to tournaments and wins. He is the 1 in 7 billion player who is actually only his best self in incredibly stressful environments. A god damn unicorn.

But ... Rain. Rain choked hard against Flash. Not as hard as Action choked. But he definitely played below his best. Which is rare, because the dude normally becomes groot the second money is on the line.

Normally, I would root for Zerg but expect the Champion to beat the non-champion. But ... Action played so sloppy last week, I have no emotional support for the guy. Just a really lackluster display of zerg, from someone who literately made a name for themselves as one of the few people who could play Extreme late game ZvT. His choices and control were regrettable and bad enough to not be forgettable.

So, I think the current state of opening theory, gives Action a slight edge going into the series. I doubt Rain will be the Protoss to show us the 1-2-3 on the 9734 build. But the games that result from it are often scrappy and ugly and he has a much better shot at keeping composer.

Lots of words for - this shit is a toss-up.
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
August 25 2019 10:22 GMT
#4
Damn! Action doing quite well really glad to see him using more lings.. why wouldn't u ?!
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
August 25 2019 10:23 GMT
#5
and so on top of the shuttle harass.... fabulous!
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
257 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-25 10:27:25
August 25 2019 10:26 GMT
#6
rain playing like he could care less

props to action tho, seems like he cares more :D
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 25 2019 10:27 GMT
#7
sick game 1, what nices plagues
The heart's eternal vow
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
August 25 2019 10:28 GMT
#8
ANOTHER shuttle stopped cold!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:29 GMT
#9
Action is an entirely different player then last week. His play is beautiful and clear and smart.
This is the player I know.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
August 25 2019 10:30 GMT
#10
Why was the other thread deleted? Should've been merged.
maybe
Profile Joined January 2008
257 Posts
August 25 2019 10:31 GMT
#11
On August 25 2019 19:30 KamMoye wrote:
Why was the other thread deleted? Should've been merged.

the AP probably deleted it
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 25 2019 10:31 GMT
#12
Very nice game from Action. Right at the end Rain finally got the shuttles to drop the HT but it was too late.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:36 GMT
#13
It was titled "Losers Match" .... it deserved to go.
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
August 25 2019 10:37 GMT
#14
No, it was titled Losers Finals. But I agree it deserved to go
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:38 GMT
#15
On August 25 2019 19:37 nikolaus8844 wrote:
No, it was titled Losers Finals. But I agree it deserved to go


I gave you a great response to your question!!
nikolaus8844
Profile Joined March 2019
111 Posts
August 25 2019 10:39 GMT
#16
True that!
[AS]Rattus
Profile Joined March 2017
427 Posts
August 25 2019 10:42 GMT
#17
On August 25 2019 19:31 KobraKay wrote:
Very nice game from Action. Right at the end Rain finally got the shuttles to drop the HT but it was too late.

you mean on 3? i think those just went up there when the main army cleared the way.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:47 GMT
#18
If he doesn't switch to lurker I will freak the hell out. Last week, he kept not going into lurker contain or defense. So annoying.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 25 2019 10:48 GMT
#19
Thank god. He needed to do this last week. But he isn't as far ahead this time.
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 25 2019 10:53 GMT
#20
Rain doesnt seem to be on top form but it was still enough to secure this.

The second ling counter did more harm than good for Action I think.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
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