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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 11 2019 21:57 GMT
#101
In game 3 Light had 3-2 mech upgrades against the 3-0 of Flash. I thought that to be huge differentiator but it was never picked up by Artosis during cast. So I'm pondering is that less crucial of an upgrade difference in TvT than I thought it to be?
The heart's eternal vow
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
August 11 2019 22:22 GMT
#102
That endurance vs. FlaSh prooved that Light deserves his 2nd place on spon matches and he isn't just a ladder hero. If he could play like vs. P as his Z, he can become top 3 terran for sure.
sunbeams are never made like me...
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3022 Posts
August 11 2019 23:27 GMT
#103
On August 12 2019 06:57 PVJ wrote:
In game 3 Light had 3-2 mech upgrades against the 3-0 of Flash. I thought that to be huge differentiator but it was never picked up by Artosis during cast. So I'm pondering is that less crucial of an upgrade difference in TvT than I thought it to be?

It's not huge, +3 weapon gives sieged tank +15 attack while +3 armor only gives -3 damage. Most important upgrade in TvT is +2 attack due to making siege tanks kill each other in 2 hits instead of 3 no matter the armor upgrades. If you only get +1 then that only works vs 0-0 tanks.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 11 2019 23:50 GMT
#104
Thanks, so its every 5th attack upgrade damage you get to save with armor? that's indeed not much. I wonder then why he hadn't turned that gas into bcs.
The heart's eternal vow
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation370 Posts
August 12 2019 01:23 GMT
#105
Light show brilliant play. With only 250 apm (comparing to 350 of Flash). Amazing.
Artas1984
Profile Joined August 2018
Lithuania119 Posts
August 12 2019 02:34 GMT
#106
What happened to the video? Flash vs. Light video is GONE from Afreeca channel in Youtube. Did the same audio copyright problem occur, or what now?

This is getting annoying... Is there any link to the match???

Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
August 12 2019 02:44 GMT
#107
On August 12 2019 11:34 Artas1984 wrote:
What happened to the video? Flash vs. Light video is GONE from Afreeca channel in Youtube. Did the same audio copyright problem occur, or what now?

This is getting annoying... Is there any link to the match???



It was pulled from YouTube about half an hour after the stream ended (copyright claim)

The link for the afreeca stream is in the original post. I had to watch it in a browser, mobile kept buffering
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
August 12 2019 03:59 GMT
#108
On August 12 2019 06:57 PVJ wrote:
In game 3 Light had 3-2 mech upgrades against the 3-0 of Flash. I thought that to be huge differentiator but it was never picked up by Artosis during cast. So I'm pondering is that less crucial of an upgrade difference in TvT than I thought it to be?


2-0 is the most important upgrade and the rest is just a bonus. Armor helps units last longer vs goliaths, vultures, wraiths and scvs but not really that important.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
August 12 2019 04:00 GMT
#109
On August 12 2019 11:34 Artas1984 wrote:
What happened to the video? Flash vs. Light video is GONE from Afreeca channel in Youtube. Did the same audio copyright problem occur, or what now?

This is getting annoying... Is there any link to the match???



I think Afreeca should just mute the stream when music is playing to avoid copyright claims, it's just annoying to deal with afterwards.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
August 12 2019 04:17 GMT
#110
Direct link for others looking: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/46766719

One of those times the nyoken casts came in handy.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1285 Posts
August 12 2019 10:33 GMT
#111
On the BC note, nerd stats tell me that it takes 16/17/17/18 BC hits to kill a BC on 0/+1/2/3 armour upgrades respectively.

In the long run, it makes a significant difference
sup
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
August 12 2019 10:43 GMT
#112
It seems that youtube thinks Flash playing is too good for westerners(second or third time this happens with his games).

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I just wished Afreeca would finally listen to the feedback of uploading the YT VODs for the english cast with songs on mute, because those copyright claims are really annoying as they take down the entire video for stuff that has ABSOLUTELLY NOTHING TO DO with the games just songs that are probably going to be skipped if the viewer is active.

Btw on this upgrade discussion, like on mech battles armor and +3 wasn't relevant only when big armies composed of units who fire slow and fast clash?
:3
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
August 12 2019 14:44 GMT
#113
Great series. As a Flash fan I can't recall the last time I saw him this on the ropes(especially against Terran). Light outplayed him in game 2 despite being constantly behind on supply for most of the game. He was definitely giving Flash a run for his money in games 3 and 4 as well. Game 1 was the only one that Flash really took handily
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
Aesthetician
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
20 Posts
August 12 2019 15:35 GMT
#114
On August 12 2019 13:17 Sabu113 wrote:
Direct link for others looking: http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/46766719

One of those times the nyoken casts came in handy.

Thanks friendo, made my search quite a bit easier
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
August 12 2019 18:25 GMT
#115
On August 12 2019 23:44 RainmanMP wrote:
Great series. As a Flash fan I can't recall the last time I saw him this on the ropes(especially against Terran). Light outplayed him in game 2 despite being constantly behind on supply for most of the game. He was definitely giving Flash a run for his money in games 3 and 4 as well. Game 1 was the only one that Flash really took handily


What? In game 4 he was pretty much dominated or am I missing something?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 12 2019 19:46 GMT
#116
On August 13 2019 03:25 KobraKay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2019 23:44 RainmanMP wrote:
Great series. As a Flash fan I can't recall the last time I saw him this on the ropes(especially against Terran). Light outplayed him in game 2 despite being constantly behind on supply for most of the game. He was definitely giving Flash a run for his money in games 3 and 4 as well. Game 1 was the only one that Flash really took handily


What? In game 4 he was pretty much dominated or am I missing something?

I think it was Light-favoured / even until he won that BC fight -- I'm still a bit confused by that one did Light not manage to fire Yamatos or was he hit by EMPs or is it just not worth it in BC v BC?
The heart's eternal vow
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-12 23:45:18
August 12 2019 23:43 GMT
#117
PVJ, the BCs were in game 3. You're quoting a comment saying that game 4 (with a fast tank contain on the nat) was one-sided, which it was as far as I could see.

Edit: And yeah Flash did get Light with an EMP in game 3, and Light got Flash a bit later, so that not many BCs had 150 energy in the big fight. I think some BCs did have Yamatos that didn't get fired but that may be because it was hard for the players to find the one or two that had energy among the fleet with no energy (?).
May the BeSt man win.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 13 2019 18:04 GMT
#118
On August 13 2019 08:43 Djabanete wrote:
PVJ, the BCs were in game 3. You're quoting a comment saying that game 4 (with a fast tank contain on the nat) was one-sided, which it was as far as I could see.

Edit: And yeah Flash did get Light with an EMP in game 3, and Light got Flash a bit later, so that not many BCs had 150 energy in the big fight. I think some BCs did have Yamatos that didn't get fired but that may be because it was hard for the players to find the one or two that had energy among the fleet with no energy (?).

Yeah I mixed those up, sorry.

I initially didn't see the EMPs hit and Light has had to make mistakes as he was ahead before the fight started.
The heart's eternal vow
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