EPT[ASL7] Semifinal A - Mini vs EffOrt - Page 9
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Nyovne
Netherlands19140 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
On March 03 2019 20:59 PanoRaMa wrote: Really wanted EffOrt in the finals, but he was fated to lose on the anniversary of the Revolution, the day an up and coming PvZ savant beat the #1 in the world. why fated? is there a curse? | ||
TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
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Jackal03
Brazil7469 Posts
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oxKnu
1259 Posts
On March 03 2019 20:58 Dante08 wrote: Effort tried to be too smart in the games he lost. Why keep going muta? Because Z's are used to getting free wins by just going Mutas for such a long time, along with Z's not caring what P usually does in the matchup in terms of BO. It's hard to beat old habits. | ||
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NoS-Craig
Australia3142 Posts
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Wonk
546 Posts
I'm wondering what Mini can do to prepare for this series because I've never been hugely impressed by his PvT or PvP. | ||
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ggsimida
1156 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:04 Wonk wrote: I'm wondering what Mini can do to prepare for this series because I've never been hugely impressed by his PvT or PvP. lol yeah its actually better if he faces rain instead of last, his pvt is his worst he can't lategame to snuff | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On March 03 2019 20:59 goody153 wrote: mini is a beast and so is rain .. i would love any of them in the finals but not together .. pvp is the least fun MU by a margin Mini is a lucky guy and not quite a beast at all. I mean, he wins vs Calm who played like shit and today's Effort was also pretty poor... All wins today are pretty much early game wins and effort even scouts exactly what he's doing 2/3 losses and he still manages to fuck up badly. Just a poor series in general in my opinion or at least I definitely did not feel any of the games were really that good (except for maybe game 3, but Effort also played super sloppy in that imo)... | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:01 Jackal03 wrote: if rain wins, the 3rd place match will be more interesting than the finals I forgot that 3rd placer match is a thing on ASL. Guess my ASL experience final series is still saved then even if Rain wins lol | ||
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
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TiQ.SinGi
Norway386 Posts
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xccam
Great Britain1150 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:06 Kaolla wrote: Mini is a lucky guy and not quite a beast at all. I mean, he wins vs Calm who played like shit and today's Effort was also pretty poor... All wins today are pretty much early game wins and effort even scouts exactly what he's doing 2/3 losses and he still manages to fuck up badly. Just a poor series in general in my opinion or at least I definitely did not feel any of the games were really that good (except for maybe game 3, but Effort also played super sloppy in that imo)... Surprisingly every time the unexpected player wins, it's "luck" rather than any skill... | ||
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nikolaus8844
115 Posts
As for a PvP finals... not so sure. I don't know why everyone's so certain that Rain will roll over Last. Last has a very solid mentality and can hold his own under pressure. Plus.... he's a lot more flexible and willing to switch it up depending on the occasion. I just LOVED IT when Snow and Calm rocked the boat in Ro16, and Last immediately adapted. Mannnnnnnnnnnnnn Soulkey was SO salty :D it made me feel all fuzzy and warm inside. Those two.. Soulkey and Rain - can't see any real character in them. Not a legend material That being said.. Rain is really solid PvT. Guess Last will take him down 3:2. | ||
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Kaolla
China2999 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:23 xccam wrote: Surprisingly every time the unexpected player wins, it's "luck" rather than any skill... Well maybe not really luck, but I mean any other (pro) protoss using the same builds would have won these games. I feel Mini just didn't do anything special really and it was mostly Effort that lost the games. So yea, I feel tonight's games were not that great at all and a 3-2 series isn't automatically a great series. I guess we don't all have to agree on that  | ||
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whaski
Finland577 Posts
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arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:38 Kaolla wrote: Well maybe not really luck, but I mean any other (pro) protoss using the same builds would have won these games. I feel Mini just didn't do anything special really and it was mostly Effort that lost the games. So yea, I feel tonight's games were not that great at all and a 3-2 series isn't automatically a great series. I guess we don't all have to agree on that I saw it the opposite way. Mini had great micro and decision making today. Also great preparation. I was tired already of seeing protosses losing corsairs again muta/scourge, and today Mini had great micro with his corsairs. Not to mention his zealot+probe micro. And the overall decision making was great, no pointless engagements where he would lose the whole army for nothing, as we again, see so many times protosses doing. The preparation was on point too, think about the pylon in the first game, and the not-so-standard builds he prepared in general. That's how you approach Bo5. Just think about it - we didn't see one storm today, in 5 PvZ games! | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
At his best he's maybe stronger than anyone but he is just as likely to upset himself like he did today. I hope Last's wrists won't hurt this week so he could eventually win his well deserved ASL! Rain is so scary tho. | ||
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rackdude
United States882 Posts
On March 03 2019 21:06 Kaolla wrote: Mini is a lucky guy and not quite a beast at all. I mean, he wins vs Calm who played like shit and today's Effort was also pretty poor... All wins today are pretty much early game wins and effort even scouts exactly what he's doing 2/3 losses and he still manages to fuck up badly. Just a poor series in general in my opinion or at least I definitely did not feel any of the games were really that good (except for maybe game 3, but Effort also played super sloppy in that imo)... Yes, every single one of the best players in the world always tends to play like shit against Mini because he's super lucky, every single time, and he's not causing it? That makes sense... See, the thing with Mini is he plays a great micro game. He's always getting just a few more drones and lings out of his zealots. Every single time. We can chalk that up to Mini since it's so consistent. And this changes the dynamic of the game, because now the Z will have less and have to deal with the possibility of aggression (building more units and less drones), which makes the Z look like their macro is off and making bad choices (locked into units because they were built early). But Mini's aggro play is causing the game to look like this, so he gets "lucky" every time he chooses to be lucky. | ||
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ggsimida
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