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great games today, disappointed in leta's late game g1 performance, but otherwise, quite good.On November 30 2018 00:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2018 19:40 KamMoye wrote:On November 29 2018 19:34 razorsuKe wrote:On November 29 2018 19:33 KamMoye wrote:
What the hell? Leta blew it. Predictably. Got scared of losing and camped too hard. 3-0 incoming. he took out 2 of rain's bases, game is still live even supply and income (for now) You don't stretch the game out vs a player who's significantly more skilled than you. What a dumbass move, "oh I have a small economical edge, I think I'm gonna make nukes against a starleague winner and #1 protoss" He lost because he didnt scout the carriers and didnt micro at all competently against them, not because of nukes [not that the nukes helped him...]. Besides, you used to be able to nuke bot right from leta's main, i think thats what he was trying to do. Might of been patched out at one point?
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On November 30 2018 02:32 Dazed. wrote:great games today, disappointed in leta's late game g1 performance, but otherwise, quite good. Show nested quote +On November 30 2018 00:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:On November 29 2018 19:40 KamMoye wrote:On November 29 2018 19:34 razorsuKe wrote:On November 29 2018 19:33 KamMoye wrote:
What the hell? Leta blew it. Predictably. Got scared of losing and camped too hard. 3-0 incoming. he took out 2 of rain's bases, game is still live even supply and income (for now) You don't stretch the game out vs a player who's significantly more skilled than you. What a dumbass move, "oh I have a small economical edge, I think I'm gonna make nukes against a starleague winner and #1 protoss" He lost because he didnt scout the carriers and didnt micro at all competently against them, not because of nukes [not that the nukes helped him...]. Besides, you used to be able to nuke bot right from leta's main, i think thats what he was trying to do. Might of been patched out at one point?
I think maybe with the ghost vision upgrade you might be able to? Anyway you need a lot of tech to do all this just to kill 1 base, seems like too much of a gamble against such a high level opponent, it's dumb unless you have the game 100% won
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On November 30 2018 03:30 LG)Sabbath wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2018 02:32 Dazed. wrote:great games today, disappointed in leta's late game g1 performance, but otherwise, quite good. On November 30 2018 00:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:On November 29 2018 19:40 KamMoye wrote:On November 29 2018 19:34 razorsuKe wrote:On November 29 2018 19:33 KamMoye wrote:
What the hell? Leta blew it. Predictably. Got scared of losing and camped too hard. 3-0 incoming. he took out 2 of rain's bases, game is still live even supply and income (for now) You don't stretch the game out vs a player who's significantly more skilled than you. What a dumbass move, "oh I have a small economical edge, I think I'm gonna make nukes against a starleague winner and #1 protoss" He lost because he didnt scout the carriers and didnt micro at all competently against them, not because of nukes [not that the nukes helped him...]. Besides, you used to be able to nuke bot right from leta's main, i think thats what he was trying to do. Might of been patched out at one point? I think maybe with the ghost vision upgrade you might be able to? Anyway you need a lot of tech to do all this just to kill 1 base, seems like too much of a gamble against such a high level opponent, it's dumb unless you have the game 100% won
Or you will most likely lose and might at least earn some style points. Though Leta might build a fort out of those soon. I enjoyed the game. Leta and Rain are from different leagues atm anyway.
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On November 30 2018 02:32 Dazed. wrote:great games today, disappointed in leta's late game g1 performance, but otherwise, quite good. Show nested quote +On November 30 2018 00:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:On November 29 2018 19:40 KamMoye wrote:On November 29 2018 19:34 razorsuKe wrote:On November 29 2018 19:33 KamMoye wrote:
What the hell? Leta blew it. Predictably. Got scared of losing and camped too hard. 3-0 incoming. he took out 2 of rain's bases, game is still live even supply and income (for now) You don't stretch the game out vs a player who's significantly more skilled than you. What a dumbass move, "oh I have a small economical edge, I think I'm gonna make nukes against a starleague winner and #1 protoss" He lost because he didnt scout the carriers and didnt micro at all competently against them, not because of nukes [not that the nukes helped him...]. Besides, you used to be able to nuke bot right from leta's main, i think thats what he was trying to do. Might of been patched out at one point?
All you need is a flying building to get vision of the high ground.
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I think Leta was trying to do what he did in this game:
https://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/31999_Leta_vs_Pure/vod
drop the ghost in the holes on the cliffs between his main and the expansion. I guess because of how the cannons were positioned maybe Leta couldn't get his ghost in those holes without being shot at by cannon? Either way it's a cool idea but really bad execution haha.
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On November 30 2018 03:54 Freakling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2018 02:32 Dazed. wrote:great games today, disappointed in leta's late game g1 performance, but otherwise, quite good. On November 30 2018 00:43 LG)Sabbath wrote:On November 29 2018 19:40 KamMoye wrote:On November 29 2018 19:34 razorsuKe wrote:On November 29 2018 19:33 KamMoye wrote:
What the hell? Leta blew it. Predictably. Got scared of losing and camped too hard. 3-0 incoming. he took out 2 of rain's bases, game is still live even supply and income (for now) You don't stretch the game out vs a player who's significantly more skilled than you. What a dumbass move, "oh I have a small economical edge, I think I'm gonna make nukes against a starleague winner and #1 protoss" He lost because he didnt scout the carriers and didnt micro at all competently against them, not because of nukes [not that the nukes helped him...]. Besides, you used to be able to nuke bot right from leta's main, i think thats what he was trying to do. Might of been patched out at one point? All you need is a flying building to get vision of the high ground. I figured that, and he had a building floating and a ghost ready to launch the nuke, but then he walked a ghost around the length of the map and nuked the entrance to the base. Odd.
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Just watched the vods. Awesome game 1 between Leta and Rain. Shame Leta couldn't seal the deal and got rolled by carriers. He did very well with all his harassment to stay in the game. Plus we got to see a nuke. It's didn't do a ton but still cool to see it in a pro game. Game 2 and 3 were rollovers. No more needed to be said.
The TvT between Sharp and Mind was awesome. Kinda like when Sharp was up against Jaehoon he kept coming from behind to win the game. Loved all the game between those 2 great players. So glad we got a great set of TvT games.
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Sharp played so damn solid! Mind had some really good ideas and really does deserve his alias, but Sharp was better able to get a sene for the playing field as the game developed and Mind made a few mistakes.
Good TvTs.
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Those Mind vs Sharp games were exceptional.
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On November 29 2018 20:33 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2018 20:13 Motivate wrote:favourite player is and always will be modesty   Modesty 0 3  Leta
you say that but no one defines the term "specialist" more than modesty. the term is thrown around loosely these days but modesty was basically on stx alone to snipe jaedong during jaedong's prime. although i will admit he never lived up to the expectations he's still a great zvz player and is why zvz is my favourite and best match up.
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On November 30 2018 16:27 Motivate wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2018 20:33 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:On November 29 2018 20:05 Motivate wrote:
leta is so bad lol On November 29 2018 20:13 Motivate wrote:favourite player is and always will be modesty Modesty 0 3 Leta you say that but no one defines the term "specialist" more than modesty. the term is thrown around loosely these days but modesty was basically on stx alone to snipe jaedong during jaedong's prime. although i will admit he never lived up to the expectations he's still a great zvz player and is why zvz is my favourite and best match up. well at least during the pre flash era modesty was just a really really strong all rounder, like a top 4 zerg easily, and his zvt in particular was super sick.
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I guess the final would be Rain VS Last. And Rain wins again.
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On December 01 2018 06:14 HansenZ wrote:
I guess the final would be Rain VS Last. And Rain wins again.
What do you mean again? he has never won a KSL (given this is the 2nd one too), also I would not count out SK yet, he has quite unpredictable performance levels, but when he plays his best, he is on par with Last and the other top players. Additionally, I dont think that Sharp is free semi for Rain, Rain is the favorite, even heavy favorite, but definitely its not a free semi for him. And finally even if the final is Rain-Last, these are not the blizzard inv protoss maps, I think its 50/50 who is going to win between them
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On December 01 2018 22:47 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2018 06:14 HansenZ wrote:
I guess the final would be Rain VS Last. And Rain wins again. What do you mean again? he has never won a KSL (given this is the 2nd one too), also I would not count out SK yet, he has quite unpredictable performance levels, but when he plays his best, he is on par with Last and the other top players. Additionally, I dont think that Sharp is free semi for Rain, Rain is the favorite, even heavy favorite, but definitely its not a free semi for him. And finally even if the final is Rain-Last, these are not the blizzard inv protoss maps, I think its 50/50 who is going to win between them
Again as in Rain beating Last AGAIN
(Cuz you know Blizzcon and every other time Rain has played Last in recent times he has won)
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On December 01 2018 06:10 Dazed. wrote:
well at least during the pre flash era modesty was just a really really strong all rounder, like a top 4 zerg easily, and his zvt in particular was super sick.
Modesty was never a top 4 Zerg..
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On December 02 2018 08:55 KamMoye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2018 06:10 Dazed. wrote:
well at least during the pre flash era modesty was just a really really strong all rounder, like a top 4 zerg easily, and his zvt in particular was super sick.
Modesty was never a top 4 Zerg..
back in 2014 yeah he is (read the bold part in dazed statement) but there wasn't much competition back then.
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China10252 Posts
Noticing a lot of one-sided 3-0s and man Miso really threw that game on HBR.
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