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Yanokabo
Profile Joined October 2018
268 Posts
October 19 2018 04:13 GMT
#121
Near, far, whereeeever you are... where and killer I always confuse since both use multiple names, Baxter is better I think so we’ll see how he plays tomorrow. Where getting eliminated in benzzene was the highlight of today for me.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
October 19 2018 04:30 GMT
#122
On October 19 2018 05:13 Miragee wrote:
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On October 19 2018 03:46 BisuDagger wrote:
It must be very frustrating to be a Light fan. Light hasn't won a BoX series versus a protos player in the post kespa era.


Has he won one in the Kespa era though?

Well, his TvP has always been pretty bad compared to his other match ups. So I'm surprised that he put up a good fight. Game 3 was so fucking good. Really enjoyed the games today.


Light never won a best-of-series against a protoss in the latter stages (round of eight and above) of major individual leagues during his professional career.

His biggest triumph versus the protoss race in a best-of-series setting would either be his 2-1 victory versus Bisu in the round of 16 of WCG Korea 2007, or his 2-1 victory versus JangBi in the round of 28 of Incruit OGN StarLeague. Obviously he won more, but these would be the ones he would be most proud of I'd imagine.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 19 2018 04:37 GMT
#123
Is there any reason for Light's vP being well, bad I guess? He's certainly not bad mechanically, but I guess maybe he just doesn't understand the matchup as well as say, TvZ? Anyone have any ideas.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-19 05:16:28
October 19 2018 05:13 GMT
#124
On October 19 2018 13:37 BigFan wrote:
Is there any reason for Light's vP being well, bad I guess? He's certainly not bad mechanically, but I guess maybe he just doesn't understand the matchup as well as say, TvZ? Anyone have any ideas.


I don't even think it has necessarily to do with the fact that he utterly lacks the fundamental flow of the match-up, since his protoss-versus-terran abilities are top level for an offrace (he has beaten Flash's terran with it before). From a pure theoretical point of view, the way he talks makes me feel like he has encyclopedic knowledge of Brood War in general.

I have the feeling that Light is just not a natural competitor in general. This is a quality that is often downplayed, but it is an essential asset to have since you are competing at a Brood War tournament, not showing off your Brood War capabilities to an audience in a laid-back vacuum setting, totally free from consequences. It is true that Light does have a better skills in the other match-ups, but his utter lack of competitive results in this specific match-up has more to do with his flaws as a competitor, than any crippling flaws as a gamer in my personal opinion.

Light, after losing his series, lamented the fact that he lost in such a disappointing manner, not being able to show the kind of skills he displayed during practice. Even during his days as a professional, he wasn't that bad during practice. Bisu once said on stream that when he was having his best ProLeague performance of his career, he had a joint-practice session with MBC Game HERO, and he went undefeated against the entire terran roster of that team, excluding Light, who managed to defeat him.

Assuming that it is the Shinhan 2010/2011 ProLeague season Bisu is talking about (where he got the MVP as well as the most number of individual victories), Light actually had a sub-50% win rate versus the protoss race that season. Sea had a win rate that was closer to 60%. From a pure gaming point of view, Light may have been the better player, but it essentially doesn't matter from a competitive stand point if he couldn't bring the results.
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Yanokabo
Profile Joined October 2018
268 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-19 07:13:19
October 19 2018 07:10 GMT
#125
Light strikes me as the guy who plays like ace level pro play 1/10 times but you can never guess when that time will be. Guys like this exist in all sports and jobs. He doesn’t even look like he knows himself when gosu light vs shit light wil appear. It’s like god strikes him with lightning turning him into a flash/ boxer hybrid and then strikes him back to a sea clone. U never know which man you’re going to get. I’d compare him to like a drew brees or a Adam sandler or something, either home run hit or super miss.
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
October 19 2018 07:19 GMT
#126
Today was a very good broodwar day. Nice matches
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-20 15:19:52
October 20 2018 15:19 GMT
#127
On October 19 2018 13:37 BigFan wrote:
Is there any reason for Light's vP being well, bad I guess? He's certainly not bad mechanically, but I guess maybe he just doesn't understand the matchup as well as say, TvZ? Anyone have any ideas.


Light's decision making is just sub-par in TvP. The circuit breaker game is a perfect example. At one point he had 4 tanks killing the 3 o'clock nexus and he ran his vultures in to kill the probes instead of protecting his tanks and lost his whole army. Later on they were 4 base vs 4 base which is very good for Terran, Rain attacks the 6 o'clock base with his whole army and Light brings units too slowly and doesn't manage to save the nexus. He should have just attacked Rain's 3rd and 4th and he would have a very strong chance to close out the game but he loses his base, cedes map control and lets Rain get his 5th up.

These were just some examples of bad decision making, he's mechanically solid but until he really learns the matchup I don't see him performing well vs Protoss.
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