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[KSL] Grand Finals: Last vs Jaedong - Page 12

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The balance whining is starting to get out of hand. TL has always had a "zero tolerance" policy when it comes to addressing balance whine. Please be wary of what you post because we will be handing out mod actions now.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 08 2018 09:07 GMT
#221
Last made the vessels very early, so they had a lot of energy. I don't think Jaedong expected that many irradiates in a row. After the first couple he was feeling secure.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
September 08 2018 09:07 GMT
#222
On September 08 2018 18:02 ShloobeR wrote:
I feel like there's no reason to muta clump if there are no marines and few turrets


Great, underrated point here.

I guess in such a sloppy game, Jaedong didn't have a great read on Last's tech situation.

He had a great chance with that Muta switch. At minimum should have killed a bunch of SCVs and the high ground tank. He might have been able to take over the Barracks with spread out Mutas.

His one job was to not get annihilated by those Irradiates. Easier said than done but 9 Mutas can be fine against 4 Irradiates. Unfortunately it didn't happen.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 08 2018 09:10 GMT
#223
lol @ the quiet cheer for last
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3123 Posts
September 08 2018 09:10 GMT
#224
So glad to hear the chants going again. Awesome stuff. COME ON JD reverse sweep.
Artosis loves Starcraft
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 08 2018 09:10 GMT
#225
On September 08 2018 18:07 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2018 18:02 ShloobeR wrote:
I feel like there's no reason to muta clump if there are no marines and few turrets


Great, underrated point here.

I guess in such a sloppy game, Jaedong didn't have a great read on Last's tech situation.

He had a great chance with that Muta switch. At minimum should have killed a bunch of SCVs and the high ground tank. He might have been able to take over the Barracks with spread out Mutas.

His one job was to not get annihilated by those Irradiates. Easier said than done but 9 Mutas can be fine against 4 Irradiates. Unfortunately it didn't happen.

ye, vs no turrets and no marines all he needed to do was to spread, sad throw.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 08 2018 09:10 GMT
#226
Jaedong fans in the audience are actually crying already, damn I feel so bad for them and JD.

Let's take some maps Tyrant!

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 08 2018 09:11 GMT
#227
I don't know what to say. Either JD is bad, or Last is good or both. I never watch much BW but is JD's ZvT still good in the current days of Brood War? His ZvP is very good, monstrous as he devoured Rain 4-0. ZvZ, I think it's still good.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
September 08 2018 09:11 GMT
#228
1-1-1 incoming for Last again I think
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
September 08 2018 09:12 GMT
#229
does 1-1-1 ever lead to a long game?
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
September 08 2018 09:13 GMT
#230
I can see JD winning if he gets into a flow state, but it's hard after that last game he should've won
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
September 08 2018 09:13 GMT
#231
Sorry but as much as i love Jaedong this kind of botching of important matches has been going for way too long for me to have any faith in the guy to pull a deciding victory.

Guess it will go down 0-4.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 08 2018 09:13 GMT
#232
Ez 8 points
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Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-08 09:14:24
September 08 2018 09:14 GMT
#233
can anyone explain in one sentence what the appeal of 1-1-1 is and why everyone is doing it? you can die super easily... is it fast tech/science vessels? is it easier on the wrist?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 08 2018 09:15 GMT
#234
Fangrills crying for JD
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
serendipitous
Profile Joined November 2017
Canada195 Posts
September 08 2018 09:15 GMT
#235
On September 08 2018 18:14 Motivate wrote:
can anyone explain in one sentence what the appeal of 1-1-1 is and why everyone is doing it? you can die super easily... is it fast tech/science vessels? is it easier on the wrist?


Versatility, you can be unpredictable and take control of the game early
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
September 08 2018 09:17 GMT
#236
Loses 2 mutas and more with no damage done to Last
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
September 08 2018 09:18 GMT
#237
55,000 people watching this finals, pretty sick
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
September 08 2018 09:20 GMT
#238
Wow what an amazing engagement by JD
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3820 Posts
September 08 2018 09:20 GMT
#239
Ultralisks seems like he's going to hit in a window just before they're up
: o )
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
September 08 2018 09:21 GMT
#240
Now that was epic.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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