EPTFlash, Shine,
Best, Stork
Jd, Effort,
Rain, Mini
will be the ones advancing.
ASL5 Ro16 Group Selection Ceremony - Page 4
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Flash, Shine, Best, Stork Jd, Effort, Rain, Mini will be the ones advancing. | ||
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Stax736
United States119 Posts
Grp B: Snow, Stork Grp C: Jaedong, Effort Grp D: Movie, Mini | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Grp B: hero, Snow Grp C: Larva, Jaedong Grp D: Rain, Mini | ||
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Also, I found it funny when Flash removed Snow from his group. It was smart of Where to include snow in the group and smart of Flash to kick him back out. =) | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
I still feel he should make it out of that group, hopefully not in 2nd place though because that would mean a ro8 vs flash | ||
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 27 2018 23:15 Cryoc wrote: The first and second place finishers of each group are usually reshuffled again for the Ro8 bracket, so the chances to meet each other are equal for everyone. And if you already played in the same group you won't face each other again in the Ro8. Oh i only checked last ASL and figured that's the usual ro8 seeding, fair enough then  Point still remains now, would be better to get first ^^ | ||
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juvenal
2448 Posts
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
Group A: Flash Mind Group B: Hero Snow Group C: Jaedong Effort Group D: Mini Rain | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
One thing I'm glad of is that we have no all Z or P groups and it's a little mixed. Sad that the only two terrans are in group A though  | ||
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usopsama
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On March 27 2018 23:15 Cryoc wrote: The first and second place finishers of each group are usually reshuffled again for the Ro8 bracket, so the chances to meet each other are equal for everyone. And if you already played in the same group you won't face each other again in the Ro8. Sorry to say that, but thats wrong. in all past ASLs there was no reshuffle. it has always been 1st place qualifiers against 2nd place qualifiers and when someone was drawn the same opponent as in the ro16 group, they layed the ticket back into the pot... On March 28 2018 02:41 usopsama wrote: Picking Mind is a smart choice. Flash doesn't have to worry about getting sniped by zerg/protoss on Sparkle. Sparkle wont be used in Ro16, so he couldnt be sniped there...  | ||
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
On March 28 2018 03:29 oEkY wrote: Sorry to say that, but thats wrong. in all past ASLs there was no reshuffle. it has always been 1st place qualifiers against 2nd place qualifiers and when someone was drawn the same opponent as in the ro16 group, they layed the ticket back into the pot... Sparkle wont be used in Ro16, so he couldnt be sniped there... Drawing from a pot to determine the matchups between the first and second places is reshuffling. During MSL and OSL times the bracket was always fully determined by the Ro16 finishes, there was no drawing. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 27 2018 21:05 Essbee wrote: This protoss/zerg fest sucks because it makes players who can barely zvt like shine and hero able to go far, hence making it super easy for flash once again because he has a high change of facing them later on. We need flash to face the likes of effort/larva/stork/jaedong, not zvp snipers... I'm getting pessimistic again but the exact same thing happened last season and I called it at the beginning that it would be hero vs flash in the finals after the group selection... :/ Someone please change my mind herO is probably the best ZvT player right now and the only one with a good chance of bringing Flash down. This is mainly due to herO being the best at facing the 1-1-1 build. JaeDong, Larva and Effort have been performing badly against it. As a reference, from the Flash interview article we can see the different zerg players winning percentage against Flash, when Flash mostly used his 1-1-1 build. herO 31%, 21-46 SoulKey 27%, 12-31 Larva 20%, 29-99 JaeDong 10%, 3-27 Effort 10%, 5-46 The maps and the live pressure can of course change the odds somewhat, but stating that herO can barely zvt is wrong. Flash has been practicing a lot with herO due to his skill vs the 1-1-1 build. | ||
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Kuks
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On March 28 2018 04:34 StylishVODs wrote: herO is probably the best ZvT player right now and the only one with a good chance of bringing Flash down. This is mainly due to herO being the best at facing the 1-1-1 build. JaeDong, Larva and Effort have been performing badly against it. As a reference, from the Flash interview article we can see the different zerg players winning percentage against Flash, when Flash mostly used his 1-1-1 build. herO 31%, 21-46 SoulKey 27%, 12-31 Larva 20%, 29-99 JaeDong 10%, 3-27 Effort 10%, 5-46 The maps and the live pressure can of course change the odds somewhat, but stating that herO can barely zvt is wrong. Flash has been practicing a lot with herO due to his skill vs the 1-1-1 build. True that. Though Flash's main problem atm are the protoss players, at least as I see it. But herO is very far from being a pushover in ZvT. And Flash having to face terrans would actually be a good bet for him, maps are definitely slanted against Terran. BTW, when were the khaydarin crystals added in the unused mains on Transistor? Because it seemed like a terran graveyard vs zerg to me, but that way it looks a bit better, though the naturals are almost as good (though more droppable) for a zerg 3rd - being on high ground and all. Are there crystals on the naturals also? And is it just me or Stork is in beast form? Every time I tune in to his channel I see him beating a high-end player. I only saw him losing to Effort. | ||
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oEkY
Germany649 Posts
On March 28 2018 04:06 Cryoc wrote: Drawing from a pot to determine the matchups between the first and second places is reshuffling. During MSL and OSL times the bracket was always fully determined by the Ro16 finishes, there was no drawing. omg, sorry, missunderstood what you were saying. thought u would mean, that even two 1st place qualifiers could get matched... my fault | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
On March 28 2018 05:30 TaardadAiel wrote: And is it just me or Stork is in beast form? Every time I tune in to his channel I see him beating a high-end player. I only saw him losing to Effort. Yes it seems as if Stork is in beast form. Partly due to that enough time has passed since he came back and partly, in my opinion, because Stork's calm and calculated style profits from maps where you have to think outside the box. He was never the fastest player but he plays intelligently, specially in PvT and PvP. I'd say Flash's biggest threats this season is Stork, Rain and Mini. At least if the maps consists of sparkle, transistor and third world. Stork beat flash over and over on transistor and third world a few days ago. I still hope Flash will solve those maps though. | ||
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TaardadAiel
Bulgaria750 Posts
On March 28 2018 05:45 StylishVODs wrote: Yes it seems as if Stork is in beast form. Partly due to that enough time has passed since he came back and partly, in my opinion, because Stork's calm and calculated style profits from maps where you have to think outside the box. He was never the fastest player but he plays intelligently, specially in PvT and PvP. I'd say Flash's biggest threats this season is Stork, Rain and Mini. At least if the maps consists of sparkle, transistor and third world. Stork beat flash over and over on transistor and third world a few days ago. I still hope Flash will solve those maps though. I also thought of this as an explanation. He's just too experienced and too smart not to profit from such maps. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1717 Posts
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