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SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
March 28 2018 02:15 GMT
#81
On March 27 2018 20:18 PVJ wrote:
Who is Larva this time if not McGregor?



He looks like a character in PUBG If I'm not mistaken I've seen him use that exact hairstyle on his character on PUBG
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1689 Posts
March 28 2018 02:24 GMT
#82
On March 27 2018 21:31 Stax736 wrote:
Grp A: Flash, Shine
Grp B: Snow, Stork
Grp C: Jaedong, Larva
Grp D: Movie, Action

sure ur a movie fan but how the hell do you think Action is going to beat Rain? Rain just wrecked Soulkey couple weeks ago
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
March 28 2018 06:26 GMT
#83
What's the map order for the ro16?
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
March 28 2018 06:35 GMT
#84
Since flash swapped snow with shine instead of action, does that mean action is better than shine?
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 28 2018 06:40 GMT
#85
On March 28 2018 11:15 Kawal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 20:18 PVJ wrote:
Who is Larva this time if not McGregor?



He looks like a character in PUBG If I'm not mistaken I've seen him use that exact hairstyle on his character on PUBG

: D Thanks

On March 28 2018 15:26 reincremate wrote:
What's the map order for the ro16?

3rd world, Transistor, Gladiator.
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 28 2018 06:41 GMT
#86
On March 28 2018 15:35 Kau wrote:
Since flash swapped snow with shine instead of action, does that mean action is better than shine?

I thought it's only due to their KT bond
The heart's eternal vow
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 28 2018 06:43 GMT
#87
On March 28 2018 05:55 TaardadAiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2018 05:45 StylishVODs wrote:
On March 28 2018 05:30 TaardadAiel wrote:
On March 28 2018 04:34 StylishVODs wrote:
On March 27 2018 21:05 Essbee wrote:
This protoss/zerg fest sucks because it makes players who can barely zvt like shine and hero able to go far, hence making it super easy for flash once again because he has a high change of facing them later on. We need flash to face the likes of effort/larva/stork/jaedong, not zvp snipers... I'm getting pessimistic again but the exact same thing happened last season and I called it at the beginning that it would be hero vs flash in the finals after the group selection... :/

Someone please change my mind

herO is probably the best ZvT player right now and the only one with a good chance of bringing Flash down. This is mainly due to herO being the best at facing the 1-1-1 build. JaeDong, Larva and Effort have been performing badly against it.
As a reference, from the Flash interview article we can see the different zerg players winning percentage against Flash, when Flash mostly used his 1-1-1 build.

herO 31%, 21-46
SoulKey 27%, 12-31
Larva 20%, 29-99
JaeDong 10%, 3-27
Effort 10%, 5-46

The maps and the live pressure can of course change the odds somewhat, but stating that herO can barely zvt is wrong.
Flash has been practicing a lot with herO due to his skill vs the 1-1-1 build.


And is it just me or Stork is in beast form? Every time I tune in to his channel I see him beating a high-end player. I only saw him losing to Effort.


Yes it seems as if Stork is in beast form. Partly due to that enough time has passed since he came back and partly, in my opinion, because Stork's calm and calculated style profits from maps where you have to think outside the box. He was never the fastest player but he plays intelligently, specially in PvT and PvP.

I'd say Flash's biggest threats this season is Stork, Rain and Mini. At least if the maps consists of sparkle, transistor and third world. Stork beat flash over and over on transistor and third world a few days ago. I still hope Flash will solve those maps though.


I also thought of this as an explanation. He's just too experienced and too smart not to profit from such maps.

He's not a commander of no weak points for nothing after all.

It's a tough group though. Last season he lost his Ro16 PvP - against Rain.
The heart's eternal vow
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
March 28 2018 07:33 GMT
#88
On March 26 2018 23:02 Alpha-NP- wrote:
So in about 24 hours, I believe they are going to have the ASL5 Ro16 Group Selection Ceremony. (As soon as group F is done). I think this ceremony is sometimes more fun than watching the players play actual games. Who do you guys think will steal the show and be the nost entertaining? For anyone that doesn't know why it is worth it to watch the ASL5 Group Selection Ceremony, it is kind of like half the Hunger Games and half the Olympics opening ceremony.

The players are introduced and the players pick their opponents. So you get to see the brackets while the players choose them live. There is also a lot of drama as sometimes the players that don't like each other talk smack. It is really good to watch this event if you are new to watching professional tournaments like I am. Enjoy.


Please update OP with the groups
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8656 Posts
March 28 2018 07:46 GMT
#89
this was bisus asl to win...so sad hes not available. if jaedong steps up without meeting flash in the lower rounds this could be his chance to win also.
the maps are so bad for terran
sCriv
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom90 Posts
March 28 2018 08:26 GMT
#90
Great groups for Flash and Rain.

Group C is bonkers
Kuks
Profile Joined March 2018
43 Posts
March 28 2018 08:45 GMT
#91
On March 28 2018 15:35 Kau wrote:
Since flash swapped snow with shine instead of action, does that mean action is better than shine?


No, I assume he did that because him and Rain are friends and he didn't want to take Rain's first choice away from him.

What is interesting is that Stork took Shine because he knew FlaSh would swap out Snow. Stork knew that FlaSh would not take way Action from Rain so he picked Shine. Really Stork is the genius in all of this, he got a good group for himself.
Stax736
Profile Joined February 2017
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 09:17:37
March 28 2018 09:11 GMT
#92
On March 28 2018 11:24 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 21:31 Stax736 wrote:
Grp A: Flash, Shine
Grp B: Snow, Stork
Grp C: Jaedong, Larva
Grp D: Movie, Action

sure ur a movie fan but how the hell do you think Action is going to beat Rain? Rain just wrecked Soulkey couple weeks ago



Well I haven't been watching that much Starcraft since Movie stopped streaming. I was thinking of Action during the KeSPa days. Mini is definitely going to be tough, he beat Soulkey and Action, and he has strong PvP.
By.Movie hwaiting
TiQ.SinGi
Profile Joined December 2004
Norway385 Posts
March 28 2018 11:23 GMT
#93
On March 28 2018 11:24 ShowTheLights wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2018 21:31 Stax736 wrote:
Grp A: Flash, Shine
Grp B: Snow, Stork
Grp C: Jaedong, Larva
Grp D: Movie, Action

sure ur a movie fan but how the hell do you think Action is going to beat Rain? Rain just wrecked Soulkey couple weeks ago


Agreed. Rain is a beast!

On another note.. whyyy Larva? I wanted Jeadong in Group B or D T_T
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TornadoSteve
Profile Joined March 2018
1038 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 12:58:10
March 28 2018 12:55 GMT
#94
I feel like Snow will struggle in his new group.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
March 28 2018 12:56 GMT
#95
Are they still using sparkle for ro16? i hope they do those island maps show so much fun

we actually see shit like corsair vs valkyrie
this is a quote
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
March 28 2018 16:46 GMT
#96
Nah bro they said Sparkle won't be used in ro16, but in later rounds.

I think Shuttle stole the show in the Group Selection Ceremony. I loved his antics. Gotta respect his honesty in acting terrified of his group.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44127 Posts
March 28 2018 16:58 GMT
#97
Well that's alright since they're bringing it back on the later rounds
this is a quote
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 17:45:49
March 28 2018 17:45 GMT
#98
On March 28 2018 15:35 Kau wrote:
Since flash swapped snow with shine instead of action, does that mean action is better than shine?


You're not seeing the true beauty of Flash. Why would he swap a Zerg to create an all Protoss group? He knows he can stomp both Action and Shine, so he might as not create an all P group and give Action a good chance of making it out of the group stages to give Flash a possibly easy BO5 or at least trip P's up down the line. But swapping Shine means that all of the Protoss still have a good zvper in their groups, possibly limiting P's but still giving an easy group stage.

There's a chance Hero, Action, Larva, and Jaedong make it out of their groups, all of which are ~<30% against Flash, leaving just two Protoss who would have to confront excellent zvpers. That's Flash's dream.
Sweet.
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 28 2018 17:49 GMT
#99
Yes, so beautiful, Flash will once again dominate the league and bore the shit out of everyone.
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 28 2018 18:50 GMT
#100
Yeah I'm really fed up with this group selection thingy. It's unserious. Players should speak through their games only. And why should a reigning champion have these kinds of favours?
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