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orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 31 2017 10:40 GMT
#301
On October 31 2017 19:38 asel wrote:
That siege-unsiege-push gave me nerdchills.


Same here! Insane control, that must've felt like a slow impending death from Bisu's standpoint.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
October 31 2017 10:40 GMT
#302
On October 31 2017 19:38 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 19:35 _Animus_ wrote:
On October 31 2017 19:30 _Animus_ wrote:
For now game 1 is going in favor of Flash, you cant expect to win vs flash with just ground army advantage vs eco advantage, because flash will roll you after.

On October 31 2017 19:32 _Animus_ wrote:
Bisu is going his usual style against terran, he is doomed.

Like what did i said?

dont think so,this 2 gates bo put him behing vs flash rax expo

Thats what i said, going army advantage vs flash eco advantage doesnt work.
Luv ya BroodWar!
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2717 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 10:43:04
October 31 2017 10:41 GMT
#303
Was it just me or the way Flash handled that Reaver+Zealot drops was perfect? One mistake and the push loses momentum and he falls behind.
Also 777 posts, looks like I will not be posting for a long time.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
October 31 2017 10:42 GMT
#304
On October 31 2017 19:37 TT1 wrote:
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On October 31 2017 19:35 LV_426 wrote:
this bo from Flash wrecks p so hard, if no scouted:<


Its mainly cus Bisu's opener was terrible (2 gate mass goons expo which is extremely low eco, he didnt do any dmg) then he followed it up with a 3rd vs a strong timing build from FlaSh. If he obs scouted FlaSh's 4 facts he would have stayed on 2 bases and went up to 4+ gates before taking his 3rd.

But he opted to hold with reaver so he could get a faster third. Staying on 2 bases like you suggest might be good for a lesser player, but with pro reaver control Bisu made the right call i think. But flash pushed perfectly..

I'm sure 2 gate has advantages or else pro players wouldnt go for it
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 31 2017 10:42 GMT
#305
Oh you can win an Afreeca jacket. Nice.
The heart's eternal vow
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
October 31 2017 10:42 GMT
#306
WHATTT I REMEMBER I SAW IT At 6:30 Start!!! OMG I MISS 30 min!!! I MISS GAME 1!!!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 31 2017 10:42 GMT
#307
On October 31 2017 19:40 Levque wrote:
he either picked up the reaver too fast or it had no scarabs.....was not an AI issue.

In that moment I thought he purposely did it.
Flash targeted the reaver with tanks (they started pointing towards the reaver) so bisu would lose the reaver. my theory is that he maybe sacrificed 1 shot of reaver to save it.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
October 31 2017 10:42 GMT
#308
On October 31 2017 19:41 Terrorbladder wrote:
Was it just me or the way Flash handled that Reaver+Zealot drops was perfect? One mistake and the push loses momentum and he falls behind.


I thought Bisu actually micro'd the main fight really well considering his early game deficit into a greedy 3rd, losing those transferring probes was what really did him in.
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 31 2017 10:43 GMT
#309
Around 100 000 viewers currently. That's sick.
The heart's eternal vow
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
October 31 2017 10:43 GMT
#310
On October 31 2017 19:41 Terrorbladder wrote:
Was it just me or the way Flash handled that Reaver+Zealot drops was perfect? One mistake and the push loses momentum and he falls behind.

when u see the terran has more tanks than protoss dragons in that early stage you have a problema amigo ^^
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 31 2017 10:43 GMT
#311
On October 31 2017 19:38 asel wrote:
That siege-unsiege-push gave me nerdchills.

Yeh, super impressive stuff. Wish I could control my army like that.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 10:43:45
October 31 2017 10:43 GMT
#312
On October 31 2017 19:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 19:41 Terrorbladder wrote:
Was it just me or the way Flash handled that Reaver+Zealot drops was perfect? One mistake and the push loses momentum and he falls behind.

when u see the terran has more tanks than protoss dragons in that early stage you have a problema amigo ^^

true ^^ and my thoughts exactly in the game
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
October 31 2017 10:44 GMT
#313
pleaseee no 3-0.... I want hyped bisu who believes in himself. Please 1-1
_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-31 10:46:22
October 31 2017 10:45 GMT
#314
Bisu goes for 2 gate is a standart because its a reverse ramp map and he didnt want to fall too early if flash was going to be agressive, however i dont think it was the best option for a player on his level.
Luv ya BroodWar!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6505 Posts
October 31 2017 10:45 GMT
#315
i dont expect bisu winning in Terran spirit honestly -_-
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
October 31 2017 10:45 GMT
#316
Bisu looking scared af.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9990 Posts
October 31 2017 10:45 GMT
#317
On October 31 2017 19:42 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2017 19:37 TT1 wrote:
On October 31 2017 19:35 LV_426 wrote:
this bo from Flash wrecks p so hard, if no scouted:<


Its mainly cus Bisu's opener was terrible (2 gate mass goons expo which is extremely low eco, he didnt do any dmg) then he followed it up with a 3rd vs a strong timing build from FlaSh. If he obs scouted FlaSh's 4 facts he would have stayed on 2 bases and went up to 4+ gates before taking his 3rd.

But he opted to hold with reaver so he could get a faster third. Staying on 2 bases like you suggest might be good for a lesser player, but with pro reaver control Bisu made the right call i think. But flash pushed perfectly..

I'm sure 2 gate has advantages or else pro players wouldnt go for it


It's situational, in that spot Bisu has to add gates before taking a 3rd due to his weak early game (he didn't scout FlaSh at all and decided to gamble because he was really far behind eco-wise imo). Had Bisu gone 1 gate goon expo he could have played the way he did (fast 3rd while defending with goon reavs).
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5214 Posts
October 31 2017 10:46 GMT
#318
This can easily snowball from here. This is where Bisu has to draw the line.

Fighting Spirit next, Bisu is at 7, Flash at 5.
The heart's eternal vow
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
October 31 2017 10:46 GMT
#319
Why not crosspos pls
Give thanks and praise!
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1652 Posts
October 31 2017 10:47 GMT
#320
Close again, god damn!! :|
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