EPT[ASL4] Ro8 Flash vs Mind - Page 15
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 25 2017 09:40 Golgotha wrote: it won't be 3-0 Flash. people need to watch some bisu streams before they say that. bisu is the best toss atm and it showed in how he murdered both his rounds. he was also the best toss until he got murdered by Sea in ASL2 then again the best toss before he got murdered by Shine last ASL lol. Only reason I think this might be different is because Bisu has said that this might be his last ASL before military service so I have a feeling that he'll prepare hardcore so that he can beat Flash. Having said that, I'm sure Flash is just as excited to face Bisu so he'll probably prep as much. | ||
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Urth
United States1252 Posts
I also think Hero has a real chance of winning it all if Bisu beats Flash. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Golgotha
Korea (South)8418 Posts
On October 25 2017 10:18 BigFan wrote: he was also the best toss until he got murdered by Sea in ASL2 then again the best toss before he got murdered by Shine last ASL lol. Only reason I think this might be different is because Bisu has said that this might be his last ASL before military service so I have a feeling that he'll prepare hardcore so that he can beat Flash. Having said that, I'm sure Flash is just as excited to face Bisu so he'll probably prep as much. oh god when he lost to shine....that hurt like hell. fk you shine!!! =P Bius's bane!!!!!! | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2609 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On October 25 2017 17:50 chrisolo wrote: Someone knows when the first semi final takes place? This sunday or will there be a pause in-between rounds? Yeah it's this sunday with Larva vs Hero first. Flash vs Bisu on tuesday. | ||
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weiliem
2071 Posts
On October 25 2017 18:16 Valikyr wrote: Yeah it's this sunday with Larva vs Hero first. Flash vs Bisu on tuesday. So Flash vs Bisu on 31st Oct? Will it be shown on the teamliquid calendar? | ||
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mcmascote
Brazil1575 Posts
On October 24 2017 22:00 niteReloaded wrote: I think not many other terrans would attack with 2 tanks in game 3 as response to wraiths? Such a Flash move, seeing a non-trivial opportunity and seizing it. -> -200 minerals & supply stuck mind Actually its a reverse ramp map. You can't hold a siege push without bringing back the wraiths and if you do then its over anyway. Flash said after the match it was a good map for 2port wraith but during the game I was wondering if it was a bad map for it. I haven't played a TvT for over a decade but when I was a T Requiem was a great match for wraith but to hold the ramp with one tank and some rines was quite difficult there due to the reverse ramp. At least there wraiths had amazing value in the mid game, not sure about it on Gladiator. But if flash said then he's right. | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1713 Posts
On October 25 2017 10:18 BigFan wrote: he was also the best toss until he got murdered by Sea in ASL2 then again the best toss before he got murdered by Shine last ASL lol. Only reason I think this might be different is because Bisu has said that this might be his last ASL before military service so I have a feeling that he'll prepare hardcore so that he can beat Flash. Having said that, I'm sure Flash is just as excited to face Bisu so he'll probably prep as much. I think that Bisu’s tendency to lose to “weaker” players is causing people to underestimate him. Even if he wasnt in his best form, he will in most instances be a real threat to Flash or any other top player. On October 25 2017 18:32 mcmascote wrote: Actually its a reverse ramp map. You can't hold a siege push without bringing back the wraiths and if you do then its over anyway. Flash said after the match it was a good map for 2port wraith but during the game I was wondering if it was a bad map for it. I haven't played a TvT for over a decade but when I was a T Requiem was a great match for wraith but to hold the ramp with one tank and some rines was quite difficult there due to the reverse ramp. At least there wraiths had amazing value in the mid game, not sure about it on Gladiator. But if flash said then he's right. Actually Flash said 2port wasnt good in Gladiator. Thats why even though he was caught off guard, he was confident he would be ok. At least thats what tasteless said during the interview. | ||
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Miragee
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On October 26 2017 00:46 Miragee wrote: Didn't expect it to be this one sided but I also didn't expect Mind to have no balls and only go for cheese in 3 games straight. In TvT you don't cheese Flash. Flash is very cheese resistant but in TvT you basically can't beat him with cheese. However, you can beat him in a longer game. I'm not saying it's easy or Mind's chances were good but his chances would have been higher in a macro game. You could see that in game 2. He almost had the game but missplayed the huge advantaged he had and Flash, being Flash, utilises any mistake to come back and roll over his opponent. I don't see this series as being one sided. Game 1 was somewhat close and game 2 was in Mind's favour but he fumbled and his macro caught up to him afterwards. Game 3 was the only roll imo and that was because his opening failed. Wish he played for a macro game that game. | ||
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Miragee
8623 Posts
On October 26 2017 00:54 BigFan wrote: I don't see this series as being one sided. Game 1 was somewhat close and game 2 was in Mind's favour but he fumbled and his macro caught up to him afterwards. Game 3 was the only roll imo and that was because his opening failed. Wish he played for a macro game that game. Game 1 was so damn one-sided. Mind hang on longer than I thought but Flash was so far ahead at almost any point of the game. Mind caught up somewhat when he pushed the ramp but he lost too many units in the end and was in a disadvantage after that again. You can take a look at the supply as well. Irrc Flash was 15 to 20 supply ahead after Mind pushed, which is insane in that early stage of the game. Game 2 was indeed good and Mind played very well for the most part. I think his transition to macro caught Flash off-guard and put him far ahead in the macro battle here. As for game 3: Yes, that's what happens if you cheese. As I said, I don't think cheese works vs Flash in TvT at all so I agree with you. A macro game would have been way less of a roll or Mind might have even been able to the game. | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3124 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Game 1 was fun, great scouting by Flash on the map. I guess he sense Mind was going to be up to something. Probably used to a lot of proxies and such on Gold Rush. Loved game 2 so much. Mind was on fire just out playing Flash up until he ran his units into a siege line. Felt like that was the turning point of that match. Flash just macro'd up and rolled him after that. Didn't mind Game 3 either, fending of that 2 port and counter attacking to supply block him was a pretty cool move. I love how he surrounded Minds army near the end of that game. I can't wait for the semi finals. Flash vs Bisu is usually an awesome contest. | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
Flash commentating himself slaughtering Mind. | ||
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johanes
Czech Republic2229 Posts
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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NoS-Craig
Australia3124 Posts
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