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[ASL4] Ro8 Flash vs Mind - Page 14

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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 24 2017 13:14 GMT
#261
Was it as much of a beatdown as the scoreline suggests?
kiss kiss fall in love
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 13:17:26
October 24 2017 13:16 GMT
#262
It was much better than last ASL's beatdown against Last. Game 1 and 2 were really cool to watch.

On October 24 2017 22:00 niteReloaded wrote:
I think not many other terrans would attack with 2 tanks in game 3 as response to wraiths?
Such a Flash move, seeing a non-trivial opportunity and seizing it. -> -200 minerals & supply stuck mind

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Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 20:00 Valikyr wrote:
Thor's Hammer, Flash's Ruler same same

lol

Show nested quote +
On October 24 2017 19:06 THE Sliggy wrote:
Mind wins.

Calling it.

congrats! :D

Pretty smart move indeed by Flash.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 13:51:59
October 24 2017 13:51 GMT
#263
Srlsly if 2nd best terran Last and one of the best TvT masters Mind getting owned like this who can beat the God? It just feels like slow painful suicide if you go lategame vs. FlaSh. We need ASAP FanTaSy if we want at least 40 min. bo5 TvT.
sunbeams are never made like me...
WiSaGaN
Profile Joined July 2006
203 Posts
October 24 2017 14:02 GMT
#264
When will we know the time of the semi-finals?
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
October 24 2017 14:35 GMT
#265
On October 24 2017 23:02 WiSaGaN wrote:
When will we know the time of the semi-finals?

It's Oct 29 (Sunday [Larva v hero]) and 31 (Tuesday [Flash v Bisu]) at 7 PM KST.

The heart's eternal vow
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 14:43:28
October 24 2017 14:43 GMT
#266
I've never seen flash break 400 or 500 apm in his afreeca stream. He averages 320 apm on-stream and 250 when doing tutorials. Then pulls out the extra apm like nothing when it counts. Fuckin' beast.
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
LightCrusader
Profile Joined July 2006
Romania1 Post
October 24 2017 14:58 GMT
#267
On October 24 2017 23:43 orvinreyes wrote:
I've never seen flash break 400 or 500 apm in his afreeca stream. He averages 320 apm on-stream and 250 when doing tutorials. Then pulls out the extra apm like nothing when it counts. Fuckin' beast.


What was his APM now?
geod
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Vietnam450 Posts
October 24 2017 15:06 GMT
#268
Game 2 is too disgusting. Mind got the upper hand then Flash just stormed over him with his computer macro
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
October 24 2017 15:15 GMT
#269
Not that I'm worried for man-crush bisu, but who'll he practice against that can simulate the TvP of Flash... the decision making, the metagaming and macro mechanics of Flash.. clearly not Mind who was just simply outmacro'd, outplayed by God, nor Last, who thought going after Stork's 3rd would win him a trip to the Ro16, Mong, I've written off already, and also Piano (lol)....

On the other hand, Flash can practice against Rain and Best....

Hope Bisu can find good practice partners... but we'll see some great TvP with the Last Protoss Dragon in the best form he's in vs God himself...
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7007 Posts
October 24 2017 15:44 GMT
#270
On October 25 2017 00:15 gamapg wrote:
Not that I'm worried for man-crush bisu, but who'll he practice against that can simulate the TvP of Flash... the decision making, the metagaming and macro mechanics of Flash.. clearly not Mind who was just simply outmacro'd, outplayed by God, nor Last, who thought going after Stork's 3rd would win him a trip to the Ro16, Mong, I've written off already, and also Piano (lol)....

On the other hand, Flash can practice against Rain and Best....

Hope Bisu can find good practice partners... but we'll see some great TvP with the Last Protoss Dragon in the best form he's in vs God himself...

Last and sSak,even Rush could be a good match,or even better bisu vs melee last ssak
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
October 24 2017 16:10 GMT
#271
Last actually has the highest TvP winrate in sponmatches for the last six months
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
October 24 2017 19:48 GMT
#272
Man I was worried for Flash in Game 2. Mind looked to have quite a significant lead at one point, but bungled things up and was suddenly overwhelmed when Flash's macro kicked into gear.

Otherwise just insane play by Flash. Game 3 super dirty 4x wraith surprise gave him a bit of an anticlimactic easy win at the end there, but not a bad series considering it was 3-0. Mind seemed to lack a bit of APM comparatively which may have hurt him too much towards end game.

So it's official we now have Bisu vs Flash!! IT'S HAPPENINGGGGG!!! (wish it was Bo7!)

(>'.')>
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
October 24 2017 20:16 GMT
#273
Flash will 3 0 Bisu
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
October 24 2017 20:18 GMT
#274
Impressive performance by the FlaSh. The decision making is just awesome.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 20:23:14
October 24 2017 20:19 GMT
#275
Game 1 was pretty good but that game 2 still gets me mad. Mind had an advantage, decided to engage as he managed to take his fourth then ran half his tanks down the ramp leaving like 3 on the high ground. Lost so many workers there and Flash used this to come back into the game. F/u vulture drop cleaned Mind's back exp afterwards and the game went downhill :/

On October 25 2017 04:48 jonich0n wrote:
Man I was worried for Flash in Game 2. Mind looked to have quite a significant lead at one point, but bungled things up and was suddenly overwhelmed when Flash's macro kicked into gear.

Otherwise just insane play by Flash. Game 3 super dirty 4x wraith surprise gave him a bit of an anticlimactic easy win at the end there, but not a bad series considering it was 3-0. Mind seemed to lack a bit of APM comparatively which may have hurt him too much towards end game.

So it's official we now have Bisu vs Flash!! IT'S HAPPENINGGGGG!!! (wish it was Bo7!)


Mind's macro seems to be his weak spot. Of course, it's not too bad but compared to someone like Flash or Bisu, he lacks greatly imo. Also, much like you mentioned, his APM is on the lower side compared to other top pros so I think that probably affects him somewhat. What I'd like to hear is Mind's thoughts on the games today.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 24 2017 20:36 GMT
#276
On October 25 2017 05:16 ne4aJIb wrote:
Flash will 3 0 Bisu

Not gonna happen.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 24 2017 20:48 GMT
#277
On October 25 2017 05:16 ne4aJIb wrote:
Flash will 3 0 Bisu


This would he surprising. Combine Bisu with PvT being PvT...and I definitely see Flash likely to drop a game. I'm guessing Flash in 3-1, maybe Flash in 3-2. I think the latter is more likely that a 3-0.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
October 24 2017 21:17 GMT
#278
I am happy for a Bisu vs Flash semis. It will be the true final actually, imo. And I am hoping for a Larva vs Bisu final (for entertainment purpose)
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
October 24 2017 22:37 GMT
#279
When is the next round. Someone ninja edit Liquipedia please.
DracoMortuiVolantus
Profile Joined October 2016
68 Posts
October 24 2017 22:54 GMT
#280
It's wrong thread but I have to post it somewhere and I don't want to bump old topics.
This message is directed to Rain and Soulkey.
It is better to be second/third protoss/zerg in brood war than first in sc2 xD

I'm so sad there are not so much events with high rewards as in the old days :/
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