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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 21 2017 03:19 GMT
#541
Every group except Group B has the potential for amazing games, but I'm looking forward even more so to the round of 8 and beyond. I hope we can see Flash play a TvP series in the elimination bracket as it's been a while since he's played that match-up in an ASL. The last time was ro8 vs Guemchi in ASL2, which felt like ages ago.
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
September 21 2017 03:19 GMT
#542
Man jaedong....everyone loves you but brodie's got to work on his ZvsMech...... Only zergs that I feel are comfortable going against Mech terran are Soulkey, Effort, and Larva... Jaedong's living in the past era, hope he comes in with some new tricks.

His mechanics are solid, but I feel he's so vulnerable in the mid-game because of his over aggression coupled with twitch decision making against mech terrans which have an inherent advantage defending their positions.... I'm gonna root for Jaedong whenever Terran goes MnM (except flash's 5 rax +1), but jaedong against Mech... not his alley...

Good luck to Jaedong though.... hope he regains his swagger coupled with his veteran's wisdom for the game

sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
September 21 2017 03:32 GMT
#543
^Luckily he won't have to face a terran until the Ro8, which is part of the reason why i'm confident on him going through his Ro16 group. I agree that he has shown weaknesses against mech, but it seems incredibly hard to take a 4th gaz in ZvT for the zerg on Crossing Ridge.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 21 2017 03:38 GMT
#544
On September 21 2017 12:19 gamapg wrote:
Man jaedong....everyone loves you but brodie's got to work on his ZvsMech...... Only zergs that I feel are comfortable going against Mech terran are Soulkey, Effort, and Larva... Jaedong's living in the past era, hope he comes in with some new tricks.

His mechanics are solid, but I feel he's so vulnerable in the mid-game because of his over aggression coupled with twitch decision making against mech terrans which have an inherent advantage defending their positions.... I'm gonna root for Jaedong whenever Terran goes MnM (except flash's 5 rax +1), but jaedong against Mech... not his alley...

Good luck to Jaedong though.... hope he regains his swagger coupled with his veteran's wisdom for the game



effOrt has just as much trouble as Jaedong, if not more, with late game mech. Jaedong has actually quite a few good ideas, chief among them his lurker/defiler drops while getting his 4th base up, but his execution has been really lacking throughout the entire matchup, which is why he hasn't looked very good at it.
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outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
September 21 2017 04:46 GMT
#545
Honestly group B looks more like group of death, of massacre and cannibalism. All zergs are solid af. I think Shine will mindfuck them all even in ZvZ.
sunbeams are never made like me...
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
September 21 2017 05:23 GMT
#546
On September 21 2017 13:46 outscar wrote:
Honestly group B looks more like group of death, of massacre and cannibalism. All zergs are solid af. I think Shine will mindfuck them all even in ZvZ.

Group B is a rock-paper-scissor competition. It is hardly a group of death.
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
September 21 2017 06:22 GMT
#547
We need more ZvTs! I wish Flash had taken Larva's challenge and switched him with Rain to group A. Then both A and B would look much better to me. Now B and D are gonna be all about the worst matchups in the game in the current meta, ZvZ and PvZ.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
September 21 2017 09:53 GMT
#548
On September 21 2017 06:46 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2017 06:43 PVJ wrote:
So here's what I hope will happen. Not sure I'll vote the same on liquibet though.

[A] - Flash, Mong
[B] - Effort, Shine
[C] - Shuttle, Bisu
[D] - Rain, Stork

You think stork has the pvz to get past both jaedong and soulkey? O.O


It's been a long time since ASL2 and Stork beat JD in quite a couple of showmatches and spons. SK is harder, I agree, but since it's only 2 MUs and I don't think he really needs to train that much for PvP he might be able to come up with something.

It's also possible that if he manages to win his 1st match he'll beat Rain in the winners and go out 1st.

This is just what I'm hoping for and trying to rationalise it. It's going to be hard and he might crush out 0-2 just as well.
The heart's eternal vow
Shalashaska_123
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States142 Posts
September 21 2017 09:53 GMT
#549
Thank you, Seeker, for providing translations. I personally think FlaSh was given too much of an advantage. Being able to pick first from the pool of 16 and switching any other two players at the end is pretty huge. He switched out Rain for Mong, which made his group the easiest. Group B is certainly going to be a bloodbath. I feel bad for Larva; that challenge to Shine blew up in his face when Effort and Hero came in the picture, and FlaSh didn't help him out in the end. Most if not all of his training was for ZvT and ZvP, so I'm curious how he'll handle this situation. Group C is the group of death in my opinion. All the players went really deep in previous ASLs, so I expect that group to be the most competitive. Group D on paper would seem to be the group of death, but I don't think it is because Stork and JD aren't as dominant as they once were. I think Rain was delighted to transfer over to this group for this reason and the fact that he'd only have to prepare for PvP and PvZ. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, though. I really wish Stargirl would've chosen the groups by lottery.

Shalashaska_123
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
September 21 2017 10:20 GMT
#550
Group B is the hivemind at work, Shine sent forth the summons and well, all them zergs followed lol
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
September 21 2017 11:45 GMT
#551
Perfect. I get to watch Flash on sunday and when group B aka ZvZ snorefest takes place I'm at work
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
September 21 2017 12:29 GMT
#552
On September 21 2017 19:20 c3rberUs wrote:
Group B is the hivemind at work, Shine sent forth the summons and well, all them zergs followed lol


Its as if the Overmind suddenly got killed and most of the swarm are just suddenly tearing each other apart.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
NoS-Craig
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia3140 Posts
September 21 2017 12:44 GMT
#553
Was it Seeker who did those translation in that Ro.16 picks Video?. If so, that is awesome work. 'Outstanding' as a marine would say.

Round 16 is going to be amazing. I can't wait to see how it all unfolds. I want to see how Flash, Shuttle, Effort and Bisu go into the next stage. From the ladder, practice and tournaments games I've seen from these guys. I'm really pumped to see how they go in the next part of the ASL.

Such a fun ASL at the moment. I Hope we get more close games then the Ro 24 though.
Artosis loves Starcraft
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4406 Posts
September 21 2017 12:45 GMT
#554
I hope Larva does indeed get out of the group. ZvZ is so... ZvZ.
After all he's one of the players who could really use at least a good portion of that prize cash. To buy new keyboards.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 21 2017 13:52 GMT
#555
On September 21 2017 18:53 Shalashaska_123 wrote:
Thank you, Seeker, for providing translations. I personally think FlaSh was given too much of an advantage. Being able to pick first from the pool of 16 and switching any other two players at the end is pretty huge. He switched out Rain for Mong, which made his group the easiest. Group B is certainly going to be a bloodbath. I feel bad for Larva; that challenge to Shine blew up in his face when Effort and Hero came in the picture, and FlaSh didn't help him out in the end. Most if not all of his training was for ZvT and ZvP, so I'm curious how he'll handle this situation. Group C is the group of death in my opinion. All the players went really deep in previous ASLs, so I expect that group to be the most competitive. Group D on paper would seem to be the group of death, but I don't think it is because Stork and JD aren't as dominant as they once were. I think Rain was delighted to transfer over to this group for this reason and the fact that he'd only have to prepare for PvP and PvZ. I'd love for them to prove me wrong, though. I really wish Stargirl would've chosen the groups by lottery.

Shalashaska_123

I don't. Larva challenged Shine to pick him, and on his own turn he picked Effort. He created 75% of the ZvZvZvZ group himself, and his request to get switched at the end was just made to increase his camera time. If he'd wanted to go against Flash, he could have said something at the start.
May the BeSt man win.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3502 Posts
September 21 2017 16:23 GMT
#556
Can't wait to watch group B. If only it were round robin so that there was a chance of tiebreakers.
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1782 Posts
September 21 2017 19:26 GMT
#557
Group B is going to be short. Just mutas running into scourges into gg.

JD you can do it.
Leee Jaee Doong
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10410 Posts
September 21 2017 19:34 GMT
#558
I really hope whoever is previewing group b in our staff just puts down "i flipped a coin for each match and this is what i got." Would make my day.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Alpha-NP-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 20:03:34
September 21 2017 20:01 GMT
#559
Group A:
Easy for Flash. No clue who will be second to advance.

Group B:
I think all the Zergs in group B is going to be very entertaining. There is a nice grudge match between Shine (a creative mastermind) and Larva (Flash thinks is a new up and comer). Not to mention Effort and Hero both have a good chance of winning. Anything can happen in ZvZ

Group C:
I wish I knew more about these players. I don't follow the scene enough to know about them.

Group D:
I'm hoping for Stork and Jaedong. But my brain tells me Rain is gonna advance. But alot of viewers are underestimating Stork. He trounced Last and shocked everyone. I think Stork has a chance of shocking us and advancing again.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
September 21 2017 20:07 GMT
#560
On September 22 2017 05:01 Alpha-NP- wrote:
Group A:
Easy for Flash. No clue who will be second to advance.

Group B:
I think all the Zergs in group B is going to be very entertaining. There is a nice grudge match between Shine (a creative mastermind) and Larva (Flash thinks is a new up and comer). Not to mention Effort and Hero both have a good chance of winning. Anything can happen in ZvZ

Group C:
I wish I knew more about these players. I don't follow the scene enough to know about them.

Group D:
I'm hoping for Stork and Jaedong. But my brain tells me Rain is gonna advance. But alot of viewers are underestimating Stork. He trounced Last and shocked everyone. I think Stork has a chance of shocking us and advancing again.

Group C has Bisu, Mind and Shuttle. Surprised you don't know about them tbh ^^

Stork is unlikely to beat Soulkey and Jaedong who both have solid ZvP so Rain should have issues as well. Wouldn't be surprising to see SK and Jaedong face off in the winners' match either. However, there is always a chance for an upset with a BO1 so who know.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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