• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:37
CEST 13:37
KST 20:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1135.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Server Blocker Stellar Fest 2 Replay Pack
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
[Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Rollback Netcode in Brood War Bot on ladder BW General Discussion Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
ASL 22 Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs Dreams 2026-10-15
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9102 users

[ASL Season 4] Busan Qualifiers - Page 23

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 21 22 23 All
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
September 04 2017 19:11 GMT
#441
On September 04 2017 18:37 Qikz wrote:
I'm sad that Scan didn't make it in (not sure if he was even at Busan, I was in bed), but gogo Firebathero! :D

Yeah, I also thought so, he tried though.
I am just happy to see so many old players participate, XellOs of all men!
Sad for Leta and Horang2. Don't know but I am also sad for Movie.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 19:13:28
September 04 2017 19:13 GMT
#442
On September 04 2017 18:07 juvenal wrote:
Ayelar the MVP, thank you man!
The final racial distribution looks fine. Where's Zero btw? If he qualified over one of the terrans it would've been even better.

Maybe I missed the news but where is Soulkey?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
September 04 2017 19:21 GMT
#443
Soulkey, Bisu, Flash and Shine are all seeded into the ro16 since they finished top 4 last season.
srj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada134 Posts
September 04 2017 20:55 GMT
#444
Any word on when the ro24 groups will be announced?
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 04 2017 23:58 GMT
#445
On September 05 2017 05:55 VoodooSteve wrote:
Any word on when the ro24 groups will be announced?


Wondering this too.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden561 Posts
September 04 2017 23:59 GMT
#446
any vods with eng comm?
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
September 05 2017 00:33 GMT
#447
On September 05 2017 08:59 A.Alm wrote:
any vods with eng comm?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172174230
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
September 05 2017 02:34 GMT
#448
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 05 2017 03:32 GMT
#449
On September 05 2017 11:34 QuickStriker wrote:
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.


Same. That's something I'm consciously starting to notice in my own casting, and something I fail at very very often. BTW, huge thumbs up for the cast over there ^^.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 03:37:20
September 05 2017 03:36 GMT
#450
On September 05 2017 11:34 QuickStriker wrote:
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.

I'd like to see you continue! You have a great quality that no other casters seem to have. You can translate on the spot and you have seem to have decent knowledge on progamer backgrounds as well as good enough game knowledge. I'm sure other English casters would be happy to duocast with you if that's in your interest.
FBH #1!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
September 05 2017 04:03 GMT
#451
Too bad Action didn't make it. I still remember his godlike late-game he managed to display back during ProLeague. But FBH is in the ASL! That's good too!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 05 2017 04:21 GMT
#452
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 05 2017 14:49 GMT
#453
Please tell me they're not planning on using dynamic lighting for the ASL matches...
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 15:19:04
September 05 2017 15:16 GMT
#454
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.
Broodwar for life!
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden561 Posts
September 05 2017 23:49 GMT
#455
On September 05 2017 09:33 epicdoom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 08:59 A.Alm wrote:
any vods with eng comm?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172174230

<3
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 06 2017 00:13 GMT
#456
On September 06 2017 00:16 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.


Protoss is favoured against the zerg race on Fighting Spirit assuming that the two players have an equal ELO rating (expected win rate of 52.7%) over a sample size of 1,860 sponsored AfreecaTV games over the last couple of months.

Fighting Spirit is a bad map for the zerg race in general in the current meta-game. That is a fact. The magnitude of the imbalance towards the zerg race can be argued, but you cannot simply look into the win rates to argue otherwise, because nobody thinks perfect balance is the hypothetical situation of somebody terrible such as Britney having a 50% record versus EffOrt on Fighting Spirit.
TL+ Member
CUTtheCBC
Profile Joined December 2016
Canada91 Posts
September 06 2017 16:22 GMT
#457
yea and notice he didn't link the ZvT winrate~
Brood War's Back, YEA!
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 06 2017 17:22 GMT
#458
On September 06 2017 09:13 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 00:16 Cele wrote:
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.


Protoss is favoured against the zerg race on Fighting Spirit assuming that the two players have an equal ELO rating (expected win rate of 52.7%) over a sample size of 1,860 sponsored AfreecaTV games over the last couple of months.

Fighting Spirit is a bad map for the zerg race in general in the current meta-game. That is a fact. The magnitude of the imbalance towards the zerg race can be argued, but you cannot simply look into the win rates to argue otherwise, because nobody thinks perfect balance is the hypothetical situation of somebody terrible such as Britney having a 50% record versus EffOrt on Fighting Spirit.


How you don't have a star next to your name is perplexing! Quality posts every time.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Prev 1 21 22 23 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
20:00
WardiTV Not-Summer Championshi
IntoTheiNu 437
WardiTV324
OGKoka 177
TKL 122
LamboSC260
Liquipedia
Online Event
20:00
BamsPatch 1.0 Weekly #4
SHIN 11
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ByuN 206
OGKoka 177
TKL 122
LamboSC2 60
SHIN 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7435
Bisu 1231
FanTaSy 693
Jaedong 440
Horang2 429
Larva 428
BeSt 312
actioN 281
Stork 266
Zeus 163
[ Show more ]
Hyuk 157
ZerO 147
Dewaltoss 145
EffOrt 113
Snow 111
Light 108
ggaemo 105
Leta 104
Barracks 79
Mind 75
Hyun 74
Killer 71
Free 57
Pusan 57
910 40
ToSsGirL 30
Sharp 30
Shinee 29
Bishop 27
hero 27
soO 25
ajuk12(nOOB) 21
Hm[arnc] 21
Bale 20
sorry 15
sSak 13
Noble 12
zelot 12
Terrorterran 4
Dota 2
canceldota3
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1605
olofmeister1345
kennyS912
kRYSTAL_22
Other Games
gofns30691
singsing1797
Coldzera 750
B2W.Neo694
Lowko217
Pyrionflax215
ZerO(Twitch)7
BEARDiaguz4
DeMusliM0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 11
lovetv 5
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
15h 23m
Afreeca Starleague
18h 23m
Rush vs Soulkey
CranKy Ducklings
22h 23m
WardiTV Invitational
23h 23m
AI Arena Tournament
1d 4h
BSL Open Qualifier
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.