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[ASL Season 4] Busan Qualifiers - Page 23

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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
September 04 2017 19:11 GMT
#441
On September 04 2017 18:37 Qikz wrote:
I'm sad that Scan didn't make it in (not sure if he was even at Busan, I was in bed), but gogo Firebathero! :D

Yeah, I also thought so, he tried though.
I am just happy to see so many old players participate, XellOs of all men!
Sad for Leta and Horang2. Don't know but I am also sad for Movie.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-04 19:13:28
September 04 2017 19:13 GMT
#442
On September 04 2017 18:07 juvenal wrote:
Ayelar the MVP, thank you man!
The final racial distribution looks fine. Where's Zero btw? If he qualified over one of the terrans it would've been even better.

Maybe I missed the news but where is Soulkey?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
September 04 2017 19:21 GMT
#443
Soulkey, Bisu, Flash and Shine are all seeded into the ro16 since they finished top 4 last season.
srj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada134 Posts
September 04 2017 20:55 GMT
#444
Any word on when the ro24 groups will be announced?
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
September 04 2017 23:58 GMT
#445
On September 05 2017 05:55 VoodooSteve wrote:
Any word on when the ro24 groups will be announced?


Wondering this too.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
September 04 2017 23:59 GMT
#446
any vods with eng comm?
epicdoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States489 Posts
September 05 2017 00:33 GMT
#447
On September 05 2017 08:59 A.Alm wrote:
any vods with eng comm?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172174230
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
September 05 2017 02:34 GMT
#448
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
September 05 2017 03:32 GMT
#449
On September 05 2017 11:34 QuickStriker wrote:
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.


Same. That's something I'm consciously starting to notice in my own casting, and something I fail at very very often. BTW, huge thumbs up for the cast over there ^^.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4992 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 03:37:20
September 05 2017 03:36 GMT
#450
On September 05 2017 11:34 QuickStriker wrote:
I listened to my own VOD and realized I talked pretty badly at many times. I need to undergo some intense speech improvement session: disabling those ums/uhs, eliminate bad accents, and be more clear with my speech.

I'd like to see you continue! You have a great quality that no other casters seem to have. You can translate on the spot and you have seem to have decent knowledge on progamer backgrounds as well as good enough game knowledge. I'm sure other English casters would be happy to duocast with you if that's in your interest.
FBH #1!
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
September 05 2017 04:03 GMT
#451
Too bad Action didn't make it. I still remember his godlike late-game he managed to display back during ProLeague. But FBH is in the ASL! That's good too!
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
September 05 2017 04:21 GMT
#452
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 05 2017 14:49 GMT
#453
Please tell me they're not planning on using dynamic lighting for the ASL matches...
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 15:19:04
September 05 2017 15:16 GMT
#454
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.
Broodwar for life!
A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden522 Posts
September 05 2017 23:49 GMT
#455
On September 05 2017 09:33 epicdoom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 08:59 A.Alm wrote:
any vods with eng comm?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/172174230

<3
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 06 2017 00:13 GMT
#456
On September 06 2017 00:16 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.


Protoss is favoured against the zerg race on Fighting Spirit assuming that the two players have an equal ELO rating (expected win rate of 52.7%) over a sample size of 1,860 sponsored AfreecaTV games over the last couple of months.

Fighting Spirit is a bad map for the zerg race in general in the current meta-game. That is a fact. The magnitude of the imbalance towards the zerg race can be argued, but you cannot simply look into the win rates to argue otherwise, because nobody thinks perfect balance is the hypothetical situation of somebody terrible such as Britney having a 50% record versus EffOrt on Fighting Spirit.
TL+ Member
CUTtheCBC
Profile Joined December 2016
Canada91 Posts
September 06 2017 16:22 GMT
#457
yea and notice he didn't link the ZvT winrate~
Brood War's Back, YEA!
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 06 2017 17:22 GMT
#458
On September 06 2017 09:13 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2017 00:16 Cele wrote:
On September 05 2017 13:21 r33k wrote:
Boy oh boy is Fighting Spirit a good and balanced map! I'm sure everyone's totally fine with Zerg having a 20% qualifying rate, despite literally what the fuck kind of a race is Protoss. But hey Tau Cross! Why don't we fucking add Katrina to the map pool while we're at it.

User was warned for this post


only ecxept Fighting Spirit has a positive winrate for in ZvP, zergs favor in TLPD Korea as well as SOSPA Fighting Spirit

Soo, perhaps you should know your stuff before you come here to whine around?


Btw, the later Katrina SE version of the map was actually okay on balance in korean pro games too.


Protoss is favoured against the zerg race on Fighting Spirit assuming that the two players have an equal ELO rating (expected win rate of 52.7%) over a sample size of 1,860 sponsored AfreecaTV games over the last couple of months.

Fighting Spirit is a bad map for the zerg race in general in the current meta-game. That is a fact. The magnitude of the imbalance towards the zerg race can be argued, but you cannot simply look into the win rates to argue otherwise, because nobody thinks perfect balance is the hypothetical situation of somebody terrible such as Britney having a 50% record versus EffOrt on Fighting Spirit.


How you don't have a star next to your name is perplexing! Quality posts every time.
new BW-player (~E rank fish) twitch.tv/crispydrone || What plays 500 games a season but can't get better? => http://imgur.com/a/pLzf9 <= ||
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