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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 31 2017 01:41 GMT
#121
The first two games were quite fun to watch. Will watch the rest when I have time
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2453 Posts
May 31 2017 02:58 GMT
#122
On May 31 2017 03:10 TaardadAiel wrote:
I don't have any idea why SoulKey decided to bring the lings from the main - where he just broke - back to the natural in game 1? Was this a mistake or just a gamble?

He did it because he had brought in the 4 new lings and thought it'd be enough to rush down the cannon, allowing him to tip the scales and completely bust Bisu. Well, he got the cannon but there was another warping and the zealots still popping out, and so in the end it got him nowhere.

He took a risk that killing the cannon would mean he could keep doing prolonged damage, but instead yep, he just threw away those 8ish lings that had made it into the main for nothing. He could've done some real damage with them if he'd just stayed up in there =/

It was definitely a mistake in hindsight, but I think to Soulkey it was a "maybe I can just put the game away right now!".
The original Bogus fan.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 31 2017 03:56 GMT
#123
On May 31 2017 10:02 BisuDagger wrote:
I miss the old style of Zerg that would beat Bisu. Back when hero won in the finals it was through superb standard play and simply being mechanically better. Soulkey and Shine just don't show the same level of mechnical talent that hero did and even Effort when he won. Credit to shine for winning with his head, but Soulkey's play just looked completely uninspired.

I miss the mutalisks+scourage vs corsairs battles and dark templar drops. I'm seeing much more hydra busts now for some reason. Hopefully, ZvP goes back to that rather than what it currently is.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 31 2017 04:33 GMT
#124
On May 31 2017 12:56 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2017 10:02 BisuDagger wrote:
I miss the old style of Zerg that would beat Bisu. Back when hero won in the finals it was through superb standard play and simply being mechanically better. Soulkey and Shine just don't show the same level of mechnical talent that hero did and even Effort when he won. Credit to shine for winning with his head, but Soulkey's play just looked completely uninspired.

I miss the mutalisks+scourage vs corsairs battles and dark templar drops. I'm seeing much more hydra busts now for some reason. Hopefully, ZvP goes back to that rather than what it currently is.


I actually really miss watching a well executed corsair-reaver... Though this build disappeared mostly because Zerg players learned how to play against it, and it requires great multi-tasking and control from the Protoss player.

L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
May 31 2017 04:45 GMT
#125
Man, Bisu.. Why can't you play well when it really matters?
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
May 31 2017 11:12 GMT
#126
On May 31 2017 13:45 L1ghtning wrote:
Man, Bisu.. Why can't you play well when it really matters?

Meh, as a Bisu fan you can't be upset with his results now or over the past 3 years. It's amazing how losing in the semifinals can make people turn against him so fast via the other LR thread. The competition gets better and better yet he still hangs at the top.

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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-31 11:17:18
May 31 2017 11:16 GMT
#127
Also lol,
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
May 31 2017 19:44 GMT
#128
I think Bisu's mid-game is really strong against Zerg. He just knows when to commit his army for frontal attacks. Soulkey just couldn't get to late game against him.
Leee Jaee Doong
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden320 Posts
May 31 2017 19:46 GMT
#129
On June 01 2017 04:44 polgas wrote:
I think Bisu's mid-game is really strong against Zerg. He just knows when to commit his army for frontal attacks. Soulkey just couldn't get to late game against him.


Soulkey also didn't drone up enough but went for early aggression so he was always gonna be way behind in the late game unless he got major damage done.
nah
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
May 31 2017 20:02 GMT
#130
His early aggression could also use some of Shine's creativity.
Leee Jaee Doong
wabe.PrayHard
Profile Joined October 2011
Bolivia45 Posts
June 01 2017 03:35 GMT
#131
So I'm bisu fan, and for the finals I'm supporting shine! Do it man for the kids!
the force is in prayer
plast1c
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany101 Posts
June 01 2017 07:24 GMT
#132
On May 31 2017 13:45 L1ghtning wrote:
Man, Bisu.. Why can't you play well when it really matters?


Bisu only plays as good as the opponent does let him play. Everbody plays awesome against weaker players and seems to suck against stronger players. Otherwise, the opponent would not be the stronger player.
kinda right, kinda wrong
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-01 13:09:55
June 01 2017 11:16 GMT
#133
Edit: Wrong thread
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
June 01 2017 11:21 GMT
#134
On June 01 2017 20:16 Wolf wrote:
Just be very clear, restreaming any of SPOTV's contents is not allowed. On Twitch, or any other platform.

Wolf, I will notify the frequent restreamers if I see them in the future and remove them from the Calendar. Also, you may want to post this in the SSL threads. PM me if you ever need anything. Hope your day is well. Cheers.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
June 01 2017 13:05 GMT
#135
On June 01 2017 20:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2017 20:16 Wolf wrote:
Just be very clear, restreaming any of SPOTV's contents is not allowed. On Twitch, or any other platform.

Wolf, I will notify the frequent restreamers if I see them in the future and remove them from the Calendar. Also, you may want to post this in the SSL threads. PM me if you ever need anything. Hope your day is well. Cheers.



LOL! Wrong thread sorry. Must have misclicked because posting on my phone.
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Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
June 01 2017 14:52 GMT
#136
On June 01 2017 12:35 wabe.PrayHard wrote:
So I'm bisu fan, and for the finals I'm supporting shine! Do it man for the kids!

actually I'm bisu-fan and haha yes I'm also cheering for shine. glad to see bisu won~
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-01 20:20:56
June 01 2017 20:17 GMT
#137
OMG, im seeing a protoss army siegeing zerg natural late game and with endurance. I was genuinely surprised to see that phase of standart play happening, its like pvz doesnt go there anymore. Now i remember what i like in this matchup.
Luv ya BroodWar!
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
June 03 2017 13:43 GMT
#138
This series looked like this to me.

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