EPT[SSL Classic] S1 Mind vs Soulkey - Page 3
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chrisolo
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He seems to stuggle more against SK Terran. | ||
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tanngard
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On May 29 2017 19:47 atrox_ wrote: having groups of 3 vultures dying to lings without even attempting to control them -before- the muta switch? There's no need to be so defensive, just pointing out that mind wasn't playing the greatest No you werent. Read your post again. You can talk like that if you want, but people on this forum will correct you. Because we care about these players and respect how difficult this game is to play. I'm sure you do too, but your post in question did now show it. And you give no credit to soulkey. Soukey is always doing something that mind has to respond to, how can he then control his vultures perfect? | ||
EsportsJohn
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Thank you :D. Hopefully my casting wasn't too painful. I still rely on chat a lot to help guide me in the right direction. On May 29 2017 19:42 tanngard wrote: "real bad control" interesting words from a foreigner. I'm sure soulkeys multitasking had nothing to do with those groups dying? It was just "real bad control" Mind didn't play the greatest in this series. I think Soulkey's only weakness is his early game, but he tried out some more aggressive builds in this matchup that covered a lot of those early weaknesses early on. His mid to late game is insane though. When he's allowed to get up to that 4-base economy, Soulkey gets some work done. The series was pretty one-sided, but I think it's still a good one to watch for Zerg players. Aside from having very weird/late tech paths, Soulkey pretty much played perfectly with good flanks and excellent macro. Loved the interview as well. Was really fun to see the player in the next round interview...created a whole new dynamic to it. Soulkey is gonna get some good ZvP practice in against Bisu tomorrow, so I expect he'll do just fine against free on Thursday. | ||
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EsportsJohn
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On May 29 2017 20:09 tanngard wrote: No you werent. Read your post again. You can talk like that if you want, but people on this forum will correct you. Because we care about these players and respect how difficult this game is to play. I'm sure you do too, but your post in question did now show it. And you give no credit to soulkey. Soukey is always doing something that mind has to respond to, how can he then control his vultures perfect? I mean, he's not wrong. In general, I'm not a huge fan of bashing players after the games are over, but it's clear that Mind's play was a little bit off today. It's possible that Soulkey's uncharacteristic early aggression threw him off, but in any case, he really shouldn't have been losing those small groups of vultures or tons of marines in the middle of the map to zerglings. There were a few moments like that vulture drop in Soulkey's 3rd on Neo Jade that were fantastic, but other than that, Mind's play was a little sloppy overall. Poor control and decision making from Mind led to Soulkey getting way stronger leads than he should have. Soulkey played really well today, so I'm looking forward to his matches vs Bisu and free later this week. He's very quickly becoming a top 3 Zerg player while hero and Jaedong stagnate. | ||
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RAPiDCasting
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On May 29 2017 20:02 Terrorbladder wrote: Is that a real desk or a CG desk? It's a real desk! | ||
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EsportsJohn
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L_Master
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On May 29 2017 20:09 tanngard wrote: No you werent. Read your post again. You can talk like that if you want, but people on this forum will correct you. Because we care about these players and respect how difficult this game is to play. I'm sure you do too, but your post in question did now show it. And you give no credit to soulkey. Soukey is always doing something that mind has to respond to, how can he then control his vultures perfect? Nobody said perfect. There is a difference between perfect and not controlled at all. Soulkey's play surely contributed, but Mind's overall gameplay did look sloppy. Moreover, if I don't micro my marine/medic well in one area of the map and lose two groups of bio to a small group of ling/muta, or walk in lurkers...it's still unquestionably poor control from me, and would still be poor control from me even if a contributing factor was that I was also being dark swarmed in my nat and getting attacked at my third. I'm still not sure what "interesting words from a foreigner" is even supposed to mean, and I'm fairly confused why you seemed so hostile in the first place. | ||
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Lebesgue
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On May 29 2017 20:09 tanngard wrote: No you werent. Read your post again. You can talk like that if you want, but people on this forum will correct you. Because we care about these players and respect how difficult this game is to play. I'm sure you do too, but your post in question did now show it. And you give no credit to soulkey. Soukey is always doing something that mind has to respond to, how can he then control his vultures perfect? Dude, you're bashing Soulkey in the other thread for choosing a "poor" spot to morph guardian, which turned out poor only because Flash scanned the right place... And here Mind played really sloppy and you are jumping on the guy who points that. Yes, for a progamer standards, that was poor control. | ||
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kaspa84
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tanngard
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On May 30 2017 06:11 Lebesgue wrote: Dude, you're bashing Soulkey in the other thread for choosing a "poor" spot to morph guardian, which turned out poor only because Flash scanned the right place... And here Mind played really sloppy and you are jumping on the guy who points that. Yes, for a progamer standards, that was poor control. I have never bashed Soulkey for anything. Go read my posts from that exhange again. I was bewildered of why he choosed to morph the guardians in that spot, especially since i have seen that kind of thing happening many times. Bewilderment is in part an admission of confusion/lack of competence. If i regret anything, it is that i was showing hostility towards atrox. Even if i took issue with the implications of his message, i'm sure he did not mean anything other than pointing out a mistake so as to try and give meaning to Minds loss. Sorry for that | ||
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