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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 18 2017 10:48 GMT
#21
Yeah, mind also put too much tanks in the bottom right and never properly established the 9 o'clock expansion, free took ages to land a recall despite multiple good opportunites etc etc

I prefer a well executed rush than a sloppy macro game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 18 2017 10:50 GMT
#22
On May 18 2017 19:39 nojok wrote:
This game is so sloppy from both players.

I think most people enjoyed that game. You say they play sloppy, yet you should know that playing BW perfectly is extremely difficult.

Just enjoy a game that was back and forth and long?
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3851 Posts
May 18 2017 11:07 GMT
#23
This game vs Light probably irrelevant for Effort's standings after Mind lost
whoever wins the Mind-Effort game next week will probably take 1st
: o )
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 18 2017 11:08 GMT
#24
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 18 2017 11:11 GMT
#25
On May 18 2017 20:08 EsportsJohn wrote:
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.

Yeah, the hydra push delayed the 3rd too long and then hero could afford to lose a fair chunk of army to snipe the templars and end it with the next wave.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
May 18 2017 11:22 GMT
#26
This is great. Zergs are starting to scout earlier more often and are taking advantage of the information they get to adjust their builds. Maybe that's the way they will defeat 5rax.
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
May 18 2017 11:26 GMT
#27
Brutal surround.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11837 Posts
May 18 2017 11:27 GMT
#28
bio got rekt in the corner
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11837 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 11:32:21
May 18 2017 11:31 GMT
#29
lol this action at the top left

both players pouring every newly macro'd unit

Light trying to power through with firebats (fbh must be proud)
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11837 Posts
May 18 2017 11:42 GMT
#30
Light fought a losing battle with EffOrt just everywhere GG
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7182 Posts
May 18 2017 11:43 GMT
#31
Effort so good !!!
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 18 2017 12:13 GMT
#32
In my opinion, the new wave of mid game aggression and emphasis on SCV scout denial by Zergs is a great counter to the +1 5rax. Unless Terran players start cutting for quicker drops, I think we're going to see a return to 3rax/fact again since it's a bit more flexible.

Still, great game by effOrt. For a second there, it looked like Light might actually be able to break the 11, but effOrt stayed on top of his macro and got just enough units to fend off the attack and stabilize. I think the other key moment was effOrt picking off that group of mnm in the middle of the map; because of that, Light had to remake a lot of units, put up bunkers, and delay his drops.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 18 2017 12:34 GMT
#33
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.
Chinese teams flair when
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2017 12:59 GMT
#34
On May 18 2017 21:34 Colouss wrote:
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/466030-afreeca-feed?page=92#1832
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
May 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#35
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#36
On May 18 2017 21:59 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 21:34 Colouss wrote:
wait, what happened to Ssak? I'm out of the loop and I'd like to know.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/466030-afreeca-feed?page=92#1832


Ah, thank you. I don't really follow the BW scene much so this was much appreciated
Chinese teams flair when
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 18 2017 13:39 GMT
#37
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

They usually upload the english VODs a bit later in the eSports Global channel, should be up in a few hours
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 18 2017 13:55 GMT
#38
On May 18 2017 21:13 EsportsJohn wrote:
In my opinion, the new wave of mid game aggression and emphasis on SCV scout denial by Zergs is a great counter to the +1 5rax. Unless Terran players start cutting for quicker drops, I think we're going to see a return to 3rax/fact again since it's a bit more flexible.

Yeah, Effort's spire was really late but just in time for the dropship. Last usually follows up with 2 star which forces the 5rax marines into the zergs bases, Light kinda tried to brute force his way (which made sense since Effort wasted all his lurkers just before defiler, ah Effort)

On May 18 2017 20:08 EsportsJohn wrote:
Good game from herO. Rain played excellently too, but I think the lack of archons really killed him in the latter fights. Nice to herO playing well again.

The main two options after the original hydra wave are: aggressive 3 base play (usually with muta switch to snipe templars), or 4 base hive transition. Rain prepared for the 1st option (adding sairs and delaying 3rd a lot), while Hero went for the 2nd. Had the sairs scouted bottom left , then Rain could have changed his strategy and put up a fight.
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-18 15:51:38
May 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#39
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

You should always check the Small VOD thread. A maniac is usually putting both korean and english links within a few hours after every match...
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 18 2017 16:07 GMT
#40
On May 19 2017 00:51 Burned Toast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2017 22:00 Wonk wrote:
I was watching the games a bit late so I lost half of that last game when they decided to cut the stream, but they've only uploaded the VODs of the korean version so I can't see the rest of it. Does anybody have a VOD of the english cast?

You should always check the Small VOD thread. A maniac is usually putting both korean and english links within a few hours after every match...

that guy is doing god's work
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