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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
AfreecaTV (FlashFTW and EsportsJohn) Twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis) ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream | ||
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
BTW, if anyone knows the names of the Korean casters, we'd like to add those. Thank you! | ||
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iamho
United States3347 Posts
Best > Mong Jaehoon > Guemchi Jaehoon > Best Mong > Guemchi Mong > Best | ||
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Piste
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Guemchi>Jaehoon Best>Guemchi Mong>Jaehoon Guemchi>Mong Go Guemchi  | ||
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YASHSHAKAR
United States75 Posts
Jaehoon>Guemchi Best>Jaehoon Mong>Guemchi Jaehoon>Mong | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
Jaehoon > Guemchi Mong > Jaehoon Best > Guemchi Best > Jaehoon | ||
Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
guemchi > jaehoon best > guemchi mong > jaehoon mong > guemchi | ||
GTR
51468 Posts
On May 07 2017 14:12 EsportsJohn wrote: PvP day snooooozeeeeee. BTW, if anyone knows the names of the Korean casters, we'd like to add those. Thank you! Park Sang-hyun (https://twitter.com/NameCardBooK)  IntoTheRain CoolWeN (https://twitter.com/soCoolweN) | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
Jaehoon > GuemChi Best > Jaehoon Mong > GuemChi Mong > Jaehoon | ||
TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 07 2017 17:17 GTR wrote: Park Sang-hyun (https://twitter.com/NameCardBooK) IntoTheRainCoolWeN (https://twitter.com/soCoolweN)I once asked in the Simple Questions, Simple Answers thread: Does anyone know if Starcraft commentators Lee Seung Won 이승원 and Park Sang Hyun 박상현 are the former players CoolweN and SoMa respectively? You just answered Part 1 but do you know if Park Sang-hyun=Soma?  | ||
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GTR
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SCC-Faust
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Terrorbladder
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mdb
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
Anyway, hope we get better PvPs today than in the Stork/Guemchi/Pusan group. | ||
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Ziggy
South Korea2105 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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gngfn
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
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Terrorbladder
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BLinD-RawR
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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Terrorbladder
2719 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:13 BLinD-RawR wrote: :^)damn that was good on best killing all those marines. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
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GTR
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toriak
Slovakia477 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:10 BLinD-RawR wrote: oh yeah this is 1.18, well, hope everything goes 100% good. everything has already gone 100% bad changing the game in the mid of tournament is just act of violence no matter if 1.18 is trash or not | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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TheNewEra
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HalcyonRain
United States124 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:16 FlaShFTW wrote: dear protoss: STOP GOING TRIPLE NEXUS ON ANDROMEDA Dear Protoss now coming to netflix this summer. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:17 SCC-Faust wrote: Dear Protoss now coming to netflix this summer. STOP SAYING WOKE | ||
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outscar
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
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HalcyonRain
United States124 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:19 gngfn wrote: OK so with that behind us can we discuss how the game looks like it was resized to fit the cast resolution in mspaint? I don't think it's a 1.18 issue because SSL looks fine. Maybe this is like some next-level strategy by ASL to claim that the patch makes the cast ugly so they can finish the tournament on 1.16. Are we sure it was 1.18? I didn't notice any of the annoying "player view" boxes on the minimap. Though I came in at the end they may have shown the supply/resource thing and I missed it. | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:19 gngfn wrote: OK so with that behind us can we discuss how the game looks like it was resized to fit the cast resolution in mspaint? I don't think it's a 1.18 issue because SSL looks fine. Maybe this is like some next-level strategy by ASL to claim that the patch makes the cast ugly so they can finish the tournament on 1.16. But didn't they themselfs do 1.18 without much pressure from Blizzard? Why would they need to make it looks bad then? Is this some 5d chess I'm missing? | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24582 Posts
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:20 HalcyonRain wrote: Are we sure it was 1.18? I didn't notice any of the annoying "player view" boxes on the minimap. Though I came in at the end they may have shown the supply/resource thing and I missed it. The resource counter is in the upper right. I guess there must be an obs option to turn off the view boxes, which is good because that was hella annoying. On May 07 2017 19:21 Arvendilin wrote: But didn't they themselfs do 1.18 without much pressure from Blizzard? Why would they need to make it looks bad then? Is this some 5d chess I'm missing? Some people complained about the switch on the Afreeca CEO's stream and he promised to "forward their concerns to Blizzard," which suggests that it was not his choice. | ||
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GTR
51468 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:20 HalcyonRain wrote: Are we sure it was 1.18? I didn't notice any of the annoying "player view" boxes on the minimap. Though I came in at the end they may have shown the supply/resource thing and I missed it. the broadcast observer is in the UMS observer slot to avoid this and the resource overlay is put on top of the broadcast from a secondary observer | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:19 gngfn wrote: OK so with that behind us can we discuss how the game looks like it was resized to fit the cast resolution in mspaint? I don't think it's a 1.18 issue because SSL looks fine. Maybe this is like some next-level strategy by ASL to claim that the patch makes the cast ugly so they can finish the tournament on 1.16. Not sure what you're talking about. The game looked great on the Twitch stream, in both 1080p or 720p. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:22 Heartland wrote: You can't fucking use this song for fucking Jaehoon! I think its his choice... | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:22 gngfn wrote: The resource counter is in the upper right. I guess there must be an obs option to turn off the view boxes, which is good because that was hella annoying. Some people complained about the switch on the Afreeca CEO's stream and he promised to "forward their concerns to Blizzard," which suggests that it was not his choice. On the other hand K.H.J. implied that Afreeca switched because they don't know what Blizz wants them to do. Tho it might be the language barrier between K.H.J. and us | ||
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HaFnium
United Kingdom1074 Posts
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HalcyonRain
United States124 Posts
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Bonyth
Poland566 Posts
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:23 RHoudini wrote: Not sure what you're talking about. The game looked great on the Twitch stream, in both 1080p or 720p. This ugly artifacting: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Eiyqfhh.png) Look at the HP in particular. But it looks a bit better now so maybe they tweaked something. | ||
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Ej_
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:27 gngfn wrote: This ugly artifacting: Look at the HP in particular. But it looks a bit better now so maybe they tweaked something. Are you watching the 480p stream? | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24582 Posts
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Heartland
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Terrorbladder
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Heartland
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GTR
51468 Posts
now for the tongue twisting mong vs mang, | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
1080p. Welp so much for these PvPs being more watchable | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
Now we will see the triple nexus vs triple nexus loosers map lmao | ||
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:34 TheNewEra wrote: Rip liquibet My liquibets also have been shredded by IamMang and Mong. | ||
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Piste
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On May 07 2017 19:21 Arvendilin wrote: But didn't they themselfs do 1.18 without much pressure from Blizzard? Where did you get this info? I really don't know ASL and Blizzard connections other than blizzard announced about this league at their website. | ||
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Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
On May 07 2017 19:35 felisconcolori wrote: My liquibets also have been shredded by IamMang and Mong. I'm going to guess over 90% of liquibets have been destroyed by the "Maongs". | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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Terrorbladder
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
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Terrorbladder
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sixfour
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Arvendilin
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letian
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BLinD-RawR
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piggu deals | ||
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Heartland
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Terrorbladder
2719 Posts
Mong = god Mong = god He just got wiped by Snow like 2 days ago in an online league, now he beat Best and Guemchi in a row to advance to Ro8 | ||
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Miragee
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Heartland
Sweden24582 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
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K.H.J
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
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outscar
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Heartland
Sweden24582 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:03 FlaShFTW wrote: wtf is happening today. next thing you know godhoon is gonna come out There is no such thing | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On May 07 2017 20:03 FlaShFTW wrote: wtf is happening today. next thing you know godhoon is gonna come out if the day is enigma... | ||
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Terrorbladder
2719 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:04 outscar wrote: Then what is Flash Isn't Mong used to be called Afreecan Flash? Glad he's back to his post Kespa form.  | ||
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outscar
2832 Posts
 It was when Flash didn't arrive to Afreeca scene yet. And well Flash is God. | ||
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Terrorbladder
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sixfour
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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sixfour
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Terrorbladder
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Arvendilin
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
LOL Tasteless. | ||
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Miragee
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Terrorbladder
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Terrorbladder
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Heyoka
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BLinD-RawR
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Terrorbladder
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TheNewEra
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:23 Miragee wrote: Please John, queens see more uses than dark archons. thats what im telling him lol | ||
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outscar
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
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Piste
6179 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:30 gngfn wrote: Jaehoon's concave was better in theory but half the "concave" was Zealots, which do not really behave in a helpful way in that shape I think he just had too many zealots clumped and die to best's archons. | ||
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:33 Piste wrote: I think he just had too many zealots clumped and die to best's archons. The Storms were actually way worse, but yeah the issue was that he had a big clump of Zealots and then a big clump of Dragoons right below it. If you swap some of the positions around Jaehoon has way more total surface area, but Best got there first so he was able to put his melee in front and his ranged behind. Jaehoon honestly kind of panicked, he had plenty of time since Best couldn't really go up to kill his third without trapping his own army. | ||
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sixfour
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atrox_
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BLinD-RawR
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atrox_
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gngfn
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Terrorbladder
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GTR
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gngfn
United States1726 Posts
2/2 | ||
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atrox_
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TheNewEra
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BLinD-RawR
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but I'm more worried about tuesday. | ||
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Miragee
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Just invite him to a grudge match and play 3 hatch queen. //all these groups have been 1/2 for me... | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10172 Posts
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Arvendilin
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Piste
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On May 07 2017 20:47 Arvendilin wrote: tuesday is gonna be pretty insane Omg yeah I can't wait :D I really hope JD has some tricks so he can advance. Last season's Flash vs JD was so awesome | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Piste
6179 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:57 SCC-Faust wrote: hero/Last gonna make it out of next group you heard it here first. Hero and JD  | ||
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heliuchuan
United States3 Posts
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RKC
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Where does he rank amongst Terrans? Below Flash and Last, surely? Better than Sea? | ||
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Miragee
8517 Posts
On May 07 2017 22:34 RKC wrote: How good is Mong, anyway? Each time I see him plays, he does pretty standard stuff, nothing impressive that makes me go "wow!". His games also seem to usually end by mid-game, so I've not seen any glimpses of great macro play. (Then again, I've not seen many of his games, and I'm prepared to stand corrected.) Where does he rank amongst Terrans? Below Flash and Last, surely? Better than Sea? Mong is a bit of a strange case to judge. He is quite solid, especially in macro games. As you observed correctly he doesn't do anything special though, which is his biggest weakness. Imho he is very predictable which makes him espacially vulnerable in the later stages of tournaments. As long as he can just play standard he is pretty strong. I'm not quite sure where to rank him. He is kind of dipping in and out of the top 5 terran maybe? | ||
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RJGooner
United States2076 Posts
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EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:23 Miragee wrote: Please John, queens see more uses than dark archons. Sorry, I come from the world where queens are actually good units :p I honestly think Dark Archons are far better and more interesting than BW queens, so it's surprising that they are far more situational. Maybe if the game had smartcast.... :X | ||
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Miragee
8517 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:37 EsportsJohn wrote: Sorry, I come from the world where queens are actually good units :p I honestly think Dark Archons are far better and more interesting than BW queens, so it's surprising that they are far more situational. Maybe if the game had smartcast.... :X Hm, I think they are similarly interesting. Jaedong had some awesome Ensnare usage back in the day. Broodlings can be really good against mech if used correctly. Post-kespa I have mostly seen bad uses in tourneys. In the Kespa-era Zero and Soulkey did it on a regular basis while everyone else stayed away from it. Regarding Dark Archons: Maelstorm is strong but doesn't quite justify the cost of two Dark Templars in most cases. Feedback is a nice skill but its use is only feasible in small scale battles. Like you said, with smartcast it would be a completly different story but BW doesn't have that (and I'm glad it doesn't). | ||
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
On May 07 2017 20:57 SCC-Faust wrote: hero/Last gonna make it out of next group you heard it here first. another one underestimating the power of the god sSak | ||
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