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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51084 Posts
May 07 2017 11:43 GMT
#121
finally a 2/2 prediction for me.

but I'm more worried about tuesday.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8678 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 11:44:27
May 07 2017 11:43 GMT
#122
On May 07 2017 20:31 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 20:23 Miragee wrote:
Please John, queens see more uses than dark archons.

thats what im telling him lol


Just invite him to a grudge match and play 3 hatch queen.

//all these groups have been 1/2 for me...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10500 Posts
May 07 2017 11:46 GMT
#123
1/2 for me today, cant wait for tuesday's mini group of death.
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 07 2017 11:47 GMT
#124
tuesday is gonna be pretty insane
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 07 2017 11:50 GMT
#125
On May 07 2017 20:47 Arvendilin wrote:
tuesday is gonna be pretty insane

Omg yeah I can't wait :D I really hope JD has some tricks so he can advance. Last season's Flash vs JD was so awesome
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
May 07 2017 11:57 GMT
#126
hero/Last gonna make it out of next group you heard it here first.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 07 2017 12:18 GMT
#127
On May 07 2017 20:57 SCC-Faust wrote:
hero/Last gonna make it out of next group you heard it here first.

Hero and JD
heliuchuan
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3 Posts
May 07 2017 12:39 GMT
#128
can anyone interpret what the players' thoughts were on the patch?
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 07 2017 13:34 GMT
#129
How good is Mong, anyway? Each time I see him plays, he does pretty standard stuff, nothing impressive that makes me go "wow!". His games also seem to usually end by mid-game, so I've not seen any glimpses of great macro play. (Then again, I've not seen many of his games, and I'm prepared to stand corrected.)

Where does he rank amongst Terrans? Below Flash and Last, surely? Better than Sea?
gg no re thx
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8678 Posts
May 07 2017 14:06 GMT
#130
On May 07 2017 22:34 RKC wrote:
How good is Mong, anyway? Each time I see him plays, he does pretty standard stuff, nothing impressive that makes me go "wow!". His games also seem to usually end by mid-game, so I've not seen any glimpses of great macro play. (Then again, I've not seen many of his games, and I'm prepared to stand corrected.)

Where does he rank amongst Terrans? Below Flash and Last, surely? Better than Sea?


Mong is a bit of a strange case to judge. He is quite solid, especially in macro games. As you observed correctly he doesn't do anything special though, which is his biggest weakness. Imho he is very predictable which makes him espacially vulnerable in the later stages of tournaments. As long as he can just play standard he is pretty strong. I'm not quite sure where to rank him. He is kind of dipping in and out of the top 5 terran maybe?
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
May 07 2017 16:31 GMT
#131
Ugh. worst possible result.
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
May 07 2017 18:37 GMT
#132
On May 07 2017 20:23 Miragee wrote:
Please John, queens see more uses than dark archons.


Sorry, I come from the world where queens are actually good units :p

I honestly think Dark Archons are far better and more interesting than BW queens, so it's surprising that they are far more situational. Maybe if the game had smartcast.... :X
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8678 Posts
May 07 2017 18:46 GMT
#133
On May 08 2017 03:37 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2017 20:23 Miragee wrote:
Please John, queens see more uses than dark archons.


Sorry, I come from the world where queens are actually good units :p

I honestly think Dark Archons are far better and more interesting than BW queens, so it's surprising that they are far more situational. Maybe if the game had smartcast.... :X


Hm, I think they are similarly interesting. Jaedong had some awesome Ensnare usage back in the day. Broodlings can be really good against mech if used correctly. Post-kespa I have mostly seen bad uses in tourneys. In the Kespa-era Zero and Soulkey did it on a regular basis while everyone else stayed away from it.

Regarding Dark Archons: Maelstorm is strong but doesn't quite justify the cost of two Dark Templars in most cases. Feedback is a nice skill but its use is only feasible in small scale battles. Like you said, with smartcast it would be a completly different story but BW doesn't have that (and I'm glad it doesn't).
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
May 07 2017 22:04 GMT
#134
On May 07 2017 20:57 SCC-Faust wrote:
hero/Last gonna make it out of next group you heard it here first.

another one underestimating the power of the god sSak
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