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[KRS]KCM RACE SURVIVAL S2W1 is on May 5th(Fri)

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largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 10:09:44
May 04 2017 01:00 GMT
#1
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Hello, BW fans around the world.

Thanks to your support, KRS Season 2 starts this week.

There are several changes in this season:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. ALL KILL REWARD
- If a player achieves all kill, player will receive a ALL KILL REWARD and 200,000 KRW(about $200).
- If there is no all kill player in 1st week, the reward will be carried over to the next week.

2. NEW MAPS
- By collecting opinions from players, production crew, and casting team, Fighting Sprit and Neo Medusa are excluded this season.
- Instead, Python and New Ground Zero will be used in this season.
- Circuit Breaker - La Mancha - Blue Storm - Neo Ground Zero - Neo Jade - Python will be used in this season by rotation order.

3. EVENTS(planning)
- KCM Old Gamer's Race Survival
- KCM RACE SURVIVAL SEASON 2 WINNERS DAY
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Since new players had chance to participate matches occationally, Our team decided to give chances to players who rarely showed to KRS.

Only this week, (T)Sharp, (Z)Miso, (P)Mini are the leaders of each team.

I hope you enjoy the 2nd season of KRS!!

Here are some of the details:
=========================================================================================
Date: Friday, 2017-05-05 (19:00 KST/ 05:00 EST / 11:00 CET)

Broadcasting team: KCM/Zeus

Players:
- Team TERRAN : (T)Sharp, (T)Mong, (T)Rush
- Team ZERG : (Z)Miso, (Z)HyuN, (Z)by.hero
- Team PROTOSS : (P)Mini, (P)Snow, (P)Shuttle

Map order:
(Wiki)Circuit Breaker - (Wiki)La Mancha - (Wiki)Blue Storm - (Wiki)Neo Ground Zero - (Wiki)Neo Jade - (Wiki)Python
(NOTICE : If the match doesn’t ends in game 6, order will start again from Blue Storm)

Watch Live at:
- AfreecaTV (http://play.afreeca.com/cjfals28)

Watch VODs at
- Youtube "KCM TV"(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2ja61Zku_rw3ZBfDZi8cuQ)
(Uploading date may vary by conditions//Please SUBSCRIBE :-))

Other informations
- (Wiki)KCM Legend Match

Facebook Page
- https://www.facebook.com/kcmrace
=========================================================================================

Thank you for watching.

Best regrads.
KCM
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 04 2017 01:43 GMT
#2
Hyped Brood War nearly every day
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
sc19980331
Profile Joined March 2017
China1609 Posts
May 04 2017 05:31 GMT
#3
Two Miso, haha:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/649_Miso
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/5142_Miso

BTW, any plan to invite Jangbi, KCM?
Thx.
TL+ Member
largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 04 2017 06:51 GMT
#4
On May 04 2017 14:31 sc19980331 wrote:
Two Miso, haha:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/649_Miso
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/5142_Miso

BTW, any plan to invite Jangbi, KCM?
Thx.


Fixed. Thx
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
May 04 2017 07:51 GMT
#5
Wow nice, I would like to see pros playing on Python!
BroodWar forever
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10360 Posts
May 04 2017 09:28 GMT
#6
zerg team looks strong
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 04 2017 12:14 GMT
#7
Mong and Snow are supposed to play in Thrill SL 1:30h after this one starts, hopefully this will be considered by the team captains
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 04 2017 12:51 GMT
#8
"Since new players had chance to participate matches occationally, Our team decided to give chances to players who rarely showed to KRS."

This is awesome. Well done! Sharp, Rush, Miso, Snow and Mini - Welcome.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 10:01:13
May 05 2017 09:58 GMT
#9
So we using this thread to discuss the games?

Also, team Zerg should hopefully have this!
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 05 2017 10:00 GMT
#10
On May 05 2017 18:58 Arvendilin wrote:
So we using this thread to discuss the games?



yeah, why not?
largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 05 2017 10:06 GMT
#11
team zerg line-up changed:

effort -> hyun

enjoy!!
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 10:10 GMT
#12
heart says zerg, head says protoss. (my liquibet history suggests terran!)
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
May 05 2017 10:11 GMT
#13
On May 05 2017 19:06 largoman wrote:
team zerg line-up changed:

effort -> hyun

enjoy!!

Welcome Huyn. Thank you!
largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 05 2017 10:11 GMT
#14
Map order changed

1st match is Miso vs. Mini
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 10:15 GMT
#15
Oh god over using the new observer mechanics :D
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 10:17 GMT
#16
miso is playing like a boss.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 05 2017 10:18 GMT
#17
On May 05 2017 19:06 largoman wrote:
team zerg line-up changed:

effort -> hyun

enjoy!!


Awwe I was looking forward to effort, now team Zerg isn't the clear favorite anymore
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 05 2017 10:22 GMT
#18
2nd match miso vs. mong
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 10:23 GMT
#19
I am so amazed at KCM. Not just because he organises this awesome event every time but he also really keeps our foreign community up to date even tho we probably only are a small part of his viewers. KCM really strikes me as an all around awesome guy.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 10:25 GMT
#20
On May 05 2017 19:23 TheNewEra wrote:
I am so amazed at KCM. Not just because he organises this awesome event every time but he also really keeps our foreign community up to date even tho we probably only are a small part of his viewers. KCM really strikes me as an all around awesome guy.


Yea, we're lucky to have a guy like him around
largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 05 2017 10:33 GMT
#21
On May 05 2017 19:23 TheNewEra wrote:
I am so amazed at KCM. Not just because he organises this awesome event every time but he also really keeps our foreign community up to date even tho we probably only are a small part of his viewers. KCM really strikes me as an all around awesome guy.


THX
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 05 2017 10:39 GMT
#22
now we probably get Mong vs Snow and in 55Min they play the same match in Thrill SL, hehe
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 10:39 GMT
#23
That was an interesting game there. Nice hold from Miso at the start, but Mong's control for the rest of the game was a little too good. Defilers were just a little too late
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51577 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 10:48:30
May 05 2017 10:47 GMT
#24
observers can't chat to players and can't save games lol

i don't know why they don't just host on old-style ums obs maps and obs from the in-game obs slot
sure you miss out on the supply/resource tab but thats about it?
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largoman
Profile Joined May 2016
Korea (South)87 Posts
May 05 2017 10:50 GMT
#25
match 3 mong vs. snow

due to server condition, the match will be restart with 1.16 version
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 05 2017 10:50 GMT
#26
On May 05 2017 19:47 GTR wrote:
observers can't chat to players and can't save games lol

i don't know why they don't just host on old-style ums obs maps and obs from the in-game obs slot
sure you miss out on the supply/resource tab but thats about it?


I think you also miss out on those two AMAZING boxes on the map showing the players current vision LOL
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 10:55 GMT
#27
On May 05 2017 19:39 oEkY wrote:
now we probably get Mong vs Snow and in 55Min they play the same match in Thrill SL, hehe

this is gonna be close
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 10:58 GMT
#28
lol - is he just doing the same proxy!?
oEkY
Profile Joined August 2016
Germany649 Posts
May 05 2017 11:23 GMT
#29
On May 05 2017 19:55 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 19:39 oEkY wrote:
now we probably get Mong vs Snow and in 55Min they play the same match in Thrill SL, hehe

this is gonna be close


snow got to lose in 7 minutes now to the next Z player
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 11:25 GMT
#30
On May 05 2017 20:23 oEkY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 19:55 TheNewEra wrote:
On May 05 2017 19:39 oEkY wrote:
now we probably get Mong vs Snow and in 55Min they play the same match in Thrill SL, hehe

this is gonna be close


snow got to lose in 7 minutes now to the next Z player

I mean Thrill can let the other game be played first. It's not as if he doesn't know where Snow is And maybe he is doing it like Hosic otherwise. First match forfeited but if he arrives for the loser match he still is allowed to play
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
May 05 2017 11:35 GMT
#31
How much money is a balloon again?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 11:41:50
May 05 2017 11:39 GMT
#32
On May 05 2017 20:35 Arvendilin wrote:
How much money is a balloon again?

Wasn't it 100 Won ? So ~ 0.08$
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
May 05 2017 11:49 GMT
#33
On May 05 2017 19:47 GTR wrote:
observers can't chat to players and can't save games lol

i don't know why they don't just host on old-style ums obs maps and obs from the in-game obs slot
sure you miss out on the supply/resource tab but thats about it?


most likely the same reason why ASL is switching on 1.18. because Blizzard wants them to, so they can show off the awesome new features.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 11:57:40
May 05 2017 11:55 GMT
#34
On May 05 2017 20:49 Bakuryu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 19:47 GTR wrote:
observers can't chat to players and can't save games lol

i don't know why they don't just host on old-style ums obs maps and obs from the in-game obs slot
sure you miss out on the supply/resource tab but thats about it?


most likely the same reason why ASL is switching on 1.18. because Blizzard wants them to, so they can show off the awesome new features.

TBF in Blizzards defense: K.H.J. report of why ASL switched doesn't really sound like Blizz is forcing them to switch

Though it may have something to do with the languae barrier in K.H.J.'s post
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 12:00 GMT
#35
Those hold position lurkers @.@ so good.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 12:03:09
May 05 2017 12:00 GMT
#36
lol defiler consume
Sharp makes TvZ look imba... in Zergs favor
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:02 GMT
#37
that was pretty sick zvt from hero.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:09 GMT
#38
Ahaha look at this wall, begging to get speedlinged
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 12:11 GMT
#39
Pretty slick block from shuttle...although he has 2 forges now...
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:11 GMT
#40
O_o that wall!
Esp1noza
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation481 Posts
May 05 2017 12:11 GMT
#41
Very nice hold, now he can make double upgrades :D
BroodWar forever
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:12 GMT
#42
On May 05 2017 21:11 Esp1noza wrote:
Very nice hold, now he can make double upgrades :D

I think after that hold he really can do whatever he wants
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:12 GMT
#43
Holy shit, this was sick. I think it was a bait tbh
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 12:13 GMT
#44
i had to take a nap when second game started, could someone possibly give me status update on the scores and which players are left?
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:16 GMT
#45
On May 05 2017 21:13 Piste wrote:
i had to take a nap when second game started, could someone possibly give me status update on the scores and which players are left?

+ Show Spoiler [results so far] +
miso>mini
mong> miso
snow > mong
hero > snow
hero > sharp

hero vs shuttle in progress
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 12:17 GMT
#46
On May 05 2017 21:13 Piste wrote:
i had to take a nap when second game started, could someone possibly give me status update on the scores and which players are left?

you can find the scores here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KCM_Legend_Match#KLM_.2333_May_5

Left are:

For Terran: Rush

For Protoss: Shuttle

For Zerg: herO, Hyun
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:17 GMT
#47
you know, if there's anyone who can zvp his way back into this I think it's hero.

Not saying he will - but that shuttle helps!
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:18 GMT
#48
Hero with 9 hatcheries and hive, i think he's got this
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 12:18 GMT
#49
kerpal and TheNewEra, thanks!
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:19 GMT
#50
On May 05 2017 21:18 Piste wrote:
kerpal and TheNewEra, thanks!

That's the name of my new band.
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 12:20:18
May 05 2017 12:19 GMT
#51
Yeah, heavy goon vs no lurker, it's over
WOW GATES
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:22 GMT
#52
wow i did not think shuttle could hold his 4th there.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9530 Posts
May 05 2017 12:24 GMT
#53
On May 05 2017 21:17 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 21:13 Piste wrote:
i had to take a nap when second game started, could someone possibly give me status update on the scores and which players are left?

you can find the scores here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KCM_Legend_Match#KLM_.2333_May_5

Left are:

For Terran: Rush

For Protoss: Shuttle

For Zerg: herO, Hyun

Not to take anything from your great work in updating Liquipedia, but could you please make the players aligned consistently. What I mean is, if the player who wins is written on the left side, he should be written on the left side in the next match as well ^^.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:25 GMT
#54
hero plaguing the obs! so gosu!
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 12:40:41
May 05 2017 12:30 GMT
#55
On May 05 2017 21:24 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 21:17 TheNewEra wrote:
On May 05 2017 21:13 Piste wrote:
i had to take a nap when second game started, could someone possibly give me status update on the scores and which players are left?

you can find the scores here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/KCM_Legend_Match#KLM_.2333_May_5

Left are:

For Terran: Rush

For Protoss: Shuttle

For Zerg: herO, Hyun

Not to take anything from your great work in updating Liquipedia, but could you please make the players aligned consistently. What I mean is, if the player who wins is written on the left side, he should be written on the left side in the next match as well ^^.

Sure, can do. I usually always put the winner on the left side because it fits the "Winner stays". It worked well in the past but today because except hero no one wins more than one game it's jumping from the left to the right the whole time
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:30 GMT
#56
Wow Shuttle is amazing when he feels like it. This reminds me of the game on La Mancha between these two
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 12:31 GMT
#57
Wow really well played by shuttle!
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 05 2017 12:31 GMT
#58
that was intense.
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 12:37 GMT
#59
That was pretty nuts. How are you even supposed to break cannons + reavers + HTs...other than attacking and hope he isn't looking.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 12:39 GMT
#60
On May 05 2017 21:19 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2017 21:18 Piste wrote:
kerpal and TheNewEra, thanks!

That's the name of my new band.

Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:39 GMT
#61
On May 05 2017 21:37 HalcyonRain wrote:
That was pretty nuts. How are you even supposed to break cannons + reavers + HTs...other than attacking and hope he isn't looking.

Hero's attack weren't really well executed, but he shouldn't have attacked in the first place
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 12:46:27
May 05 2017 12:45 GMT
#62
On May 05 2017 21:37 HalcyonRain wrote:
That was pretty nuts. How are you even supposed to break cannons + reavers + HTs...other than attacking and hope he isn't looking.

having a shit-ton more stuff. Hero was economically behind / level for most of the game, plus shuttle managed to keep his high value stuff alive really well, even when he lost his army pushing hero's 4th he managed to escape with the reavers.

Edit - also ultras are the only thing zerg has that can soak up reaver shots - but again, it's a crazy expensive way of getting anything done.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 12:46 GMT
#63
So just one player remaining for each race. Exciting
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 12:48 GMT
#64
On May 05 2017 21:46 Piste wrote:
So just one player remaining for each race. Exciting

yeah I like hero but because he lost it is guaranteed we get the full 8 games
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 12:49 GMT
#65
Let's see if diagonal carriers are indeed imba
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 12:57 GMT
#66
Rush put on a pretty good fight, but he is just no match to shuttle. gg
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 13:05 GMT
#67
when I see Shuttles Fish Server name I still can't believe that their clan is named NeOx -.-
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 13:10:20
May 05 2017 13:07 GMT
#68
Hyun going for the Shine build
Edit: Fast dt drop, i like it
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 13:13:34
May 05 2017 13:11 GMT
#69
God damn HyuN wasting his hydras for nothing.

edit: lol shuttle is taking all the advantage of the fact hyun didn't go for spire :D
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
May 05 2017 13:13 GMT
#70
Lol that abuse
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
May 05 2017 13:15 GMT
#71
pretty much the perfect timing. Well done protoss
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
May 05 2017 13:17 GMT
#72
shuttle showing no mercy
ortseam
Profile Joined April 2015
996 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-05 13:17:50
May 05 2017 13:17 GMT
#73
Good games today, gj Shuttle!
Edit: Now I wonder if you can put tanks/lurkers there, unlikely though
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
May 05 2017 13:18 GMT
#74
great games today, thanks KCM.
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Germany3128 Posts
May 05 2017 13:21 GMT
#75
On May 05 2017 19:33 largoman wrote:
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On May 05 2017 19:23 TheNewEra wrote:
I am so amazed at KCM. Not just because he organises this awesome event every time but he also really keeps our foreign community up to date even tho we probably only are a small part of his viewers. KCM really strikes me as an all around awesome guy.


THX

Don't thank me KCM. You deserve it Also your English is really good
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Canada2040 Posts
May 07 2017 19:49 GMT
#76
VODs are out ! I ordered them in the Small VOD Thread for those who missed the games...
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Netherlands557 Posts
May 07 2017 20:24 GMT
#77
On May 08 2017 04:49 Burned Toast wrote:
VODs are out ! I ordered them in the Small VOD Thread for those who missed the games...


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