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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-05-07 05:14:43
April 30 2017 04:17 GMT
#1

Afreeca Starleague Season 3


Sunday, Apr 30 10:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)


(Wiki)Afreeca Starleague Season 3
[image loading][ASL]Ro16 Expectations


Casters & Hosts


Tasteless | Artosis
EsportsJohn | FlashFTW


Streams


Korean Afreeca Stream
AfreecaTV (FlashFTW and EsportsJohn)
Twitch TV (Tasteless and Artosis)
ASL Youtube Channel with both English and Korean Stream



Matchups and Maps



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(T)Flash              (Z)HyuN

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(Z)Shine              (Z)ggaemo





Results


+ Show Spoiler [Full results] +




Recommended Games


+ Show Spoiler [Flash vs HyuN] +
Poll: Recommend Flash vs HyuN?

Yes (11)
 
100%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (0)
 
0%

11 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Flash vs HyuN?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Shine vs ggaemo] +
Poll: Recommend Shine vs ggaemo?

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (1)
 
25%

If you have time (3)
 
75%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Shine vs ggaemo?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +
Poll: Recommend Winners Match?

Yes (8)
 
89%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (1)
 
11%

9 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Winners Match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +
Poll: Recommend Losers Match?

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (0)
 
0%

If you have time (3)
 
100%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Losers Match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time


+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +
Poll: Recommend Final Match?

Yes (2)
 
50%

No (1)
 
25%

If you have time (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time





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StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 04:19:11
April 30 2017 04:18 GMT
#2
Recaps are running a little late, should be posted shortly. FlashFTW has been very busy with IRL stuff lately, so the ASL2 stream may not run tonight; will keep you posted.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Zariel
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1312 Posts
April 30 2017 04:48 GMT
#3
Flash and shine should advance!

Hoping for epic matches at very least
sup
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 05:24:18
April 30 2017 05:11 GMT
#4
I love Flash but he deserves to be eliminated for creating a group like this

On the other hand, at least one of the underdogs will advance which is pretty nice
YASHSHAKAR
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 30 2017 07:12 GMT
#5
2 zerg guaranteed to be eliminated pretty much. Meanwhile group C guaranteed at least one toss moves forward. Overall I kinda like these brackets. Hope to see flash assert his dominance over these zerg
My wallet for Aiur
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
April 30 2017 07:21 GMT
#6
So this is basically:

Flash wins with 5 rax timing
ZvZ weirdness
Flash wins with 5 rax timing
ZvZ weirdness
ZvZ weirdness

Would like to see someone hold out until Flash needs to transition to mech, or just a straight up muta v muta game, but I can't see the former and we haven't really been seeing the latter
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
K.H.J
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
Korea (South)769 Posts
April 30 2017 07:25 GMT
#7
well, the start time is 07:00pm KST.
t2azor
Profile Joined April 2017
32 Posts
April 30 2017 07:30 GMT
#8
On April 30 2017 16:21 sixfour wrote:
So this is basically:

Flash wins with 5 rax timing
ZvZ weirdness
Flash wins with 5 rax timing
ZvZ weirdness
ZvZ weirdness

Would like to see someone hold out until Flash needs to transition to mech, or just a straight up muta v muta game, but I can't see the former and we haven't really been seeing the latter



soulkey was able to do this vs flash in the team league
JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
April 30 2017 07:32 GMT
#9
I feel like Flash is going to have his way with these guys...
www.broodwarmaps.net
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 30 2017 07:33 GMT
#10
On April 30 2017 16:25 K.H.J wrote:
well, the start time is 07:00pm KST.


Thank you! I had copied the LR thread from last week that started early! Fixed now!
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 07:35 GMT
#11
i dunno about everyone mailing flash in for this group, does anyone not remember pdpop msl where he got knocked out 0-2 in a group with classic and ssak?

i mean, all it takes are two well-prepared all-in's from the zerg players that face him and he's out.
Commentator
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 30 2017 07:46 GMT
#12
In Shine I believe! Do some weird timing and knock out champion.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Netto.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland523 Posts
April 30 2017 07:50 GMT
#13
Flash and ggaemo to advance
Be the change you want to see in the world.
YASHSHAKAR
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 30 2017 08:03 GMT
#14
Still not live yet. Did North korea just nuke them or what? Lol
My wallet for Aiur
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
April 30 2017 08:05 GMT
#15
On April 30 2017 17:03 YASHSHAKAR wrote:
Still not live yet. Did North korea just nuke them or what? Lol


I made a mistake with the OP using the earlier time they started last week. Should be fixed now, we're back to 1900KST every day for the Ro16. So...still got another 2 hours to go! :D
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
CrayonPopChoa
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada761 Posts
April 30 2017 08:06 GMT
#16
On April 30 2017 17:05 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 17:03 YASHSHAKAR wrote:
Still not live yet. Did North korea just nuke them or what? Lol


I made a mistake with the OP using the earlier time they started last week. Should be fixed now, we're back to 1900KST every day for the Ro16. So...still got another 2 hours to go! :D



unreal man... i woke up so excited and now i have to kill 2 hours. drats!
BW4LIFE
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 09:16:09
April 30 2017 09:15 GMT
#17
I hope we see some 5 pool tonight! Andromeda would be good since Flash is expecting 3 hatch into lukers into lose...
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 30 2017 09:50 GMT
#18
ggaemo and Flash pls
ggaemo fan
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
April 30 2017 09:52 GMT
#19
No Liquibets ? Well. Easy group for ggaemo and Shine.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 09:52 GMT
#20
As long as God advances, that's all that matters.
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
April 30 2017 09:54 GMT
#21
twitch.tv/gsl is streaming this too

probably add to stream links
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 09:56 GMT
#22
Lets do this Flash!

I sadly have noone else to cheer for... I guess, not Shine advancing would be nice too :D
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 30 2017 09:58 GMT
#23
I've been a little disappointed with Flash's TvZ on his stream over the past few days so I'm slightly worried. But he was also doing some really weird builds, so maybe that was just experimentation and tonight will be optimization.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
April 30 2017 10:03 GMT
#24
On April 30 2017 18:58 gngfn wrote:
I've been a little disappointed with Flash's TvZ on his stream over the past few days so I'm slightly worried. But he was also doing some really weird builds, so maybe that was just experimentation and tonight will be optimization.


Or even just hiding his real builds lol
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 10:07 GMT
#25
On April 30 2017 19:03 atrox_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 18:58 gngfn wrote:
I've been a little disappointed with Flash's TvZ on his stream over the past few days so I'm slightly worried. But he was also doing some really weird builds, so maybe that was just experimentation and tonight will be optimization.


Or even just hiding his real builds lol


Hiding his real builds, while streaming? You are just talking nonsense
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
April 30 2017 10:10 GMT
#26
Artosis says twitch.tv/asl will be dead next ASL day. So migrate back to twitch.tv/gsl :O
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 10:10 GMT
#27
On April 30 2017 19:10 HyralGambit wrote:
Artosis says twitch.tv/asl will be dead next ASL day. So migrate back to twitch.tv/gsl :O


Today I'll still watch on /asl to send her off with a smile :')
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 10:18 GMT
#28
plague rush? lol
Commentator
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3836 Posts
April 30 2017 10:20 GMT
#29
arggg Hyun you had it man

you had stuff to scout dropships coming and you just didn't see it
: o )
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 10:20 GMT
#30
What a weird game to tune into.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 10:23 GMT
#31
Hyun is pretty dead. He is still on 3 bases.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 10:25 GMT
#32
On April 30 2017 18:58 gngfn wrote:
I've been a little disappointed with Flash's TvZ on his stream over the past few days so I'm slightly worried. But he was also doing some really weird builds, so maybe that was just experimentation and tonight will be optimization.


because zergs don't have it hard, hes experimenting new torture.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 10:27 GMT
#33
GG
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
April 30 2017 10:27 GMT
#34
I really like Hyun's game plan to beat Flash. Sadly he is no Jaedong..
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 30 2017 10:28 GMT
#35
hyun pls go
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
April 30 2017 10:28 GMT
#36
HyuN definetly had prepared and put thought on his build untill to the from early to late game. He probably didn't expect Flash to build 4 dropships so soon and thought that his islands are still safe when he saw 2 of the dropships at Flash's natural while doing the muta harrass.

Flash is such a beast, he knows he can go standard and just adapt on the fly.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 10:28 GMT
#37
was flash trying to look over at where hyun was sitting to wonder why he didn't gg out yet? lol
Commentator
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
April 30 2017 10:29 GMT
#38
I think Hyun's idea was good if he positioned his mutas to protect the initial expansion attempt of the 6 o'clock, I think Hyun would've been in good position to win.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 10:29 GMT
#39
His vessels are killing lings.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3836 Posts
April 30 2017 10:29 GMT
#40
If Hyun was just a bit faster/more aware he would have been able to save his original base at 6
: o )
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 10:30 GMT
#41
This is a good game. Hyun had a good strategy prepared, Flash responded with beautiful SK Terran multitasking.
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 10:31 GMT
#42
man an SK terran game in 2017, andromeda is good for everyone.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 10:31 GMT
#43
All things considered, I think it's safe to say this game was much better than anyone had expected.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 10:32 GMT
#44
On April 30 2017 19:28 Piste wrote:
HyuN definetly had prepared and put thought on his build untill to the from early to late game. He probably didn't expect Flash to build 4 dropships so soon and thought that his islands are still safe when he saw 2 of the dropships at Flash's natural while doing the muta harrass.

Flash is such a beast, he knows he can go standard and just adapt on the fly.


And the fact that he didn't manage to kill a single dropship with his scourge early on meant flash just continued to use them to kill off Hyuns expansions left and right...
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 30 2017 10:33 GMT
#45
On April 30 2017 19:31 Ej_ wrote:
All things considered, I think it's safe to say this game was much better than anyone had expected.

Potentially would've been awesome had Hyun actually defended his 6 o'clock base, it was definitely possible.
esq>n
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 10:33:16
April 30 2017 10:33 GMT
#46
HyuN needed to wait and do doom drop, not couple ling drops. Also bad scourge usage, he never got any dropships or vessels.
sunbeams are never made like me...
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
April 30 2017 10:33 GMT
#47
On April 30 2017 19:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
man an SK terran game in 2017, andromeda is good for everyone.

Yes too much Fighting Spirit.

Fighting Spirit

I almost wish we'd get more crazy maps, I would love to have another Plasma-esque map.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
April 30 2017 10:34 GMT
#48
SK Terran back in 2017.

Andromeda making TvZ great again!
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
April 30 2017 10:34 GMT
#49
On April 30 2017 19:33 outscar wrote:
HyuN needed to wait and do doom drop, not couple ling drops. Also bad scourge usage, he never got any dropships or vessels.

The game was lost when Flash killed his 6 o'clock base.

If he were prepared for that, and he could have been because dropships flew over his lings, I think then he would have had a lead and could have overpowered flash
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 10:36 GMT
#50
On April 30 2017 19:33 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 19:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
man an SK terran game in 2017, andromeda is good for everyone.

Yes too much Fighting Spirit.

Fighting Spirit

I almost wish we'd get more crazy maps, I would love to have another Plasma-esque map.


Plasma? please

we need Triathlon.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4380 Posts
April 30 2017 10:37 GMT
#51
Flashuuuu :D
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
April 30 2017 10:37 GMT
#52
On April 30 2017 19:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
man an SK terran game in 2017, andromeda is good for everyone.



hear hear. Albeit it slightly favours Zerg, I think we are going to see some great matches on it.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 30 2017 10:37 GMT
#53
On April 30 2017 19:33 outscar wrote:
HyuN needed to wait and do doom drop, not couple ling drops. Also bad scourge usage, he never got any dropships or vessels.


he didn't have any scourge cause he had no gas
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 10:39 GMT
#54
am I the only one who associate asl with the early days of aol chatting?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 10:41 GMT
#55
On April 30 2017 19:39 Heartland wrote:
am I the only one who associate asl with the early days of aol chatting?

nope, bunch of people did, you are however the first one to ask on the actual forums.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 30 2017 10:41 GMT
#56
On April 30 2017 19:39 Heartland wrote:
am I the only one who associate asl with the early days of aol chatting?

14/f/cali ;-)
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 10:42 GMT
#57
On April 30 2017 19:41 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 19:39 Heartland wrote:
am I the only one who associate asl with the early days of aol chatting?

14/f/cali ;-)


plz send me a private message
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 10:46 GMT
#58
Come on Shine!
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 10:49 GMT
#59
are their mics still on? i can faintly hear some chatter behind the ads
Commentator
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 10:50:38
April 30 2017 10:50 GMT
#60
On April 30 2017 19:49 GTR wrote:
are their mics still on? i can faintly hear some chatter behind the ads

Yeah sounds like they are
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 10:54 GMT
#61
One of the games I remember most vividly is Flash vs Shine on Heartbreak Ridge where Shine researches burrow, burrows a bunch of lings outside of Flash's nat. Flash moves out, just as Shine is expecting but then all of a sudden he scans the high ground where the lings are hidden. Total wtfness.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
April 30 2017 10:55 GMT
#62
I must have missed the ZvZ, how was it?
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 10:55 GMT
#63
On April 30 2017 19:55 Arvendilin wrote:
I must have missed the ZvZ, how was it?


like a ZvZ
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:00 GMT
#64
ooh 3 hatch lurker
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 11:01 GMT
#65
Uh oh 5 rax again
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 11:04 GMT
#66
Flash could have busted the 2 sunkens while Lurker eggs were morphing?
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:04 GMT
#67
wow shine is playing really smart
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 30 2017 11:05 GMT
#68
Is there a chat channel you guys hang out to make useful comments instead of the mess in Twitch's chat?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 11:06:58
April 30 2017 11:06 GMT
#69
Great drops but you are dead, Shine.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 11:07 GMT
#70
A crazy last few minutes
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
April 30 2017 11:07 GMT
#71
Flash that was so good!
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 11:07 GMT
#72
Nooooo!
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4380 Posts
April 30 2017 11:08 GMT
#73
oh how I missed this

Great game by Flash!
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 11:08 GMT
#74
The Flash vZ matchup at work
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
April 30 2017 11:08 GMT
#75
Can't help, but think that a better Zerg would've won that game after the drop.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:08 GMT
#76
On April 30 2017 20:05 fabiano wrote:
Is there a chat channel you guys hang out to make useful comments instead of the mess in Twitch's chat?


try discord, TL discord needs love
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 30 2017 11:13 GMT
#77
On April 30 2017 20:08 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 20:05 fabiano wrote:
Is there a chat channel you guys hang out to make useful comments instead of the mess in Twitch's chat?


try discord, TL discord needs love


What is that? How do I get there?

I'm a technologically impared man, sorry :T
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
April 30 2017 11:14 GMT
#78
On April 30 2017 20:05 fabiano wrote:
Is there a chat channel you guys hang out to make useful comments instead of the mess in Twitch's chat?

as long as I am in twitch chat, there will be useful comments, haha
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3836 Posts
April 30 2017 11:14 GMT
#79
Both those ZvTs were a lot more fun than expected.

Faster/Sharper zergs probably could have taken those games after those starts, but Flash is gonna be Flash
: o )
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 11:14 GMT
#80
I just hang out here because twitch chat is death.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 11:16 GMT
#81
Oh dear god, two more ZvZ:s in a row. Noooooooooo
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:17 GMT
#82
On April 30 2017 20:16 Heartland wrote:
Oh dear god, two more ZvZ:s in a row. Noooooooooo


be like me, hope for hive tech.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
April 30 2017 11:19 GMT
#83
now shine just needed to drop the lurker/ling play after the first successful drop. Why didn't he get a 3rd while the drop was still going on? secure some of the chokes with lurkers or even set up a contain until Flash can really push out.

Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 11:19 GMT
#84
On April 30 2017 20:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 20:16 Heartland wrote:
Oh dear god, two more ZvZ:s in a row. Noooooooooo


be like me, hope for hive tech.


I don't think I've ever seen a live game where they got to hive tech.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:20 GMT
#85
On April 30 2017 20:19 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 20:17 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 30 2017 20:16 Heartland wrote:
Oh dear god, two more ZvZ:s in a row. Noooooooooo


be like me, hope for hive tech.


I don't think I've ever seen a live game where they got to hive tech.


I have and its amazing, not just because its rare.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 11:20 GMT
#86


Commentator
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 30 2017 11:21 GMT
#87
On April 30 2017 20:20 GTR wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L998jZlCFBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RiP_XnebYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sow4N4GChJU


I've seen the games in VODs, I just haven't ever seen it live. I sort of believe it's just a hoax that the lizard people have come up with to trick people into thinking ZvZ can be fun.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 30 2017 11:23 GMT
#88
Welp. Now I have to be all-in for Shine
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
April 30 2017 11:25 GMT
#89
Poor ggaemo I wanted everyone from this group to advance.
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
April 30 2017 11:27 GMT
#90
tbh a hive-tech zvz is also not fun to watch. I like the precision, speed and decision making of the standard muta/ling ZvZ
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
April 30 2017 11:30 GMT
#91
Flash is still god tier
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:32 GMT
#92
On April 30 2017 20:27 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
tbh a hive-tech zvz is also not fun to watch. I like the precision, speed and decision making of the standard muta/ling ZvZ

Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 11:36 GMT
#93
Pumping drones was a mistake. Shine is 99% cheese build. Hyun should have seen it coming.
Terrorbladder
Profile Joined May 2014
2750 Posts
April 30 2017 11:37 GMT
#94
Man, Shine looked completely amazing with those ZvZs
My dream is to fertilize two females at a time.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
April 30 2017 11:37 GMT
#95
just came in halfway through the final game

LOLLLLLLLLLLL SHIIIINE
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 11:37 GMT
#96
shine to shout the meat at the next afreeca company dinner
Commentator
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
April 30 2017 11:37 GMT
#97
That one larva that became a drone instead of lings at the nat hatch will henceforth be known as Judas
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 11:38 GMT
#98
If Hyun had kept building lings and kept his natural alive, he would have won.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51289 Posts
April 30 2017 11:46 GMT
#99
if I see Bisu vs Shine in Ro8.....
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51685 Posts
April 30 2017 11:47 GMT
#100
nah, bisu gonna advance in second just to avoid him
Commentator
keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
April 30 2017 11:50 GMT
#101
At least that first game was fun.

This group was always gonna be crappy anyway.
Graphics
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
April 30 2017 11:51 GMT
#102
On April 30 2017 20:47 GTR wrote:
nah, bisu gonna advance in second just to avoid him


With those players I don't think Bisu has a chance to lose a game on his group, high chance he will get knocked out.
sunbeams are never made like me...
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
April 30 2017 11:53 GMT
#103
I hope Bisu gets knocked out. I will milk every tear that I can possibly milk.
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
April 30 2017 12:30 GMT
#104
Meh, first game pretty ok, but mostly boring day. I wish Flash had shown some showmanship and switched a protoss or terran to the group so the games wouldn't have been done in an hour and we could have had more interesting or at least longer games.

Of course, God does what God does best, that is maximizes his chances of winning in and outside of the game. Can't blame him really.

On the bright side, the other groups should be more interesting with the lower tier zergs out.
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
April 30 2017 12:45 GMT
#105
Cool to see HyuN still playing games...:D
go Flash.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10550 Posts
April 30 2017 16:47 GMT
#106
Ayy 5/5 in fame predictions today
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YASHSHAKAR
Profile Joined April 2017
United States75 Posts
April 30 2017 17:09 GMT
#107
Im still rootin for Bisu, hes really in a good groove lately.

Im not sure if soulkey has what it takes to give him that first loss. However, if anyone can come back and win two in a row, it would be bisu.
My wallet for Aiur
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States924 Posts
April 30 2017 17:55 GMT
#108
Andromeda is so zerg favored map.
Life is just life
HalcyonRain
Profile Joined March 2017
United States124 Posts
April 30 2017 18:41 GMT
#109
Nice build by Shine vs Flash, getting the +1 Carapace really early to counter the +1 Weapons, and skipping mutas since mutas don't do much vs 5 rax anyway. I wish I could have seen the build play out on a map where Zerg is allowed to take a 3rd, shame.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 30 2017 20:17 GMT
#110
On April 30 2017 20:53 usopsama wrote:
I hope Bisu gets knocked out. I will milk every tear that I can possibly milk.

So, how do you feel about stork's chances to win this ASL?
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
April 30 2017 21:00 GMT
#111
Glad Shine advanced. Hope to see Shine vs a Protoss in RO8 since he creates such interesting tension against them. Obviously Shine vs Bisu would be a lot of fun.
Barneyk
Profile Joined November 2008
Sweden317 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 21:47:17
April 30 2017 21:46 GMT
#112
Flash was in absolute god mode in game 1, the way he was able to do everything so well and finding everything is crazy.

Hyun had a great strategy and executed it well but didn't protect his 6 enough, I would've loved to see the game go on with him keeping that alive and develop into the late game.

Flash is just so skilled and found everything Hyun was trying to do from there, I was excited as hell for a bit though, beautiful plan that Flash just crushed with pure skill.

Shine played really well in the zvzs, well done.

Overall a bit of a flat day, but more exciting than expected.
I can't wait for group B though!
nah
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
April 30 2017 21:52 GMT
#113
Game 1 was amazing. We wish the groups were round robin instead of duel tournament to reward preparation like this more. It makes for very exciting games
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-30 22:16:11
April 30 2017 22:15 GMT
#114
On May 01 2017 05:17 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2017 20:53 usopsama wrote:
I hope Bisu gets knocked out. I will milk every tear that I can possibly milk.

So, how do you feel about stork's chances to win this ASL?

Stork just doesn't look motivated. It was obvious that he wasn't going to make it far into the tournament. Jaedong is the same way; he doesn't look motivated.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 01 2017 00:36 GMT
#115
It was more entertaining than I expected. Great showing by Hyun and Shine, the two TvZs were especially great. I was almost expecting them mentioning July with the attitude Shine took.
The heart's eternal vow
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
May 01 2017 02:56 GMT
#116
Man, I feel like ASL could really benefit from a bo3 format in the groups, maybe the elimination matches bo3? To me a bo1 feels a bit unfair, especially as some of the maps seem to be a bit unbalanced. (That ash world one seems zerg favored)
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
May 01 2017 13:13 GMT
#117
On April 30 2017 20:27 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
tbh a hive-tech zvz is also not fun to watch. I like the precision, speed and decision making of the standard muta/ling ZvZ


Naaah, this tedious blob wars are the most boring thing in BW since ever.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8700 Posts
May 01 2017 14:21 GMT
#118
I don't get why all these zergs aren't expanding for so long. Sure, Flash does a great job running around on the map, intercepting drones/bases, but after the first base is killed it takes those zergs forever to send out another drone. Also, Hyun did prepare for anti-drop, the first dropship flew right over his burrowed ling, yet he didn't scourge the dropships. I really don't get it.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 01 2017 15:06 GMT
#119
Flash's games played out like a superhero series. A motley bunch of superheroes keep throwing all kinds of special tactics and tricks at him. But just when you think he's down and out, he rises back and whoops their sorry asses. Flash makes such a great supervillain.

Who will take Flash down? Tune in next episode!
gg no re thx
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
May 01 2017 20:26 GMT
#120
On April 30 2017 19:54 Heartland wrote:
One of the games I remember most vividly is Flash vs Shine on Heartbreak Ridge where Shine researches burrow, burrows a bunch of lings outside of Flash's nat. Flash moves out, just as Shine is expecting but then all of a sudden he scans the high ground where the lings are hidden. Total wtfness.

Classic world class star sense. When he didn't see any lings that should've been spotting for his move out timing, he felt the burrow.
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