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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-19 14:06:57
April 19 2007 14:06 GMT
#161
GGPLAY ADVANCES TO STARLEAGUE

alright, so at least three non-terrans?
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 19 2007 14:07 GMT
#162
On April 19 2007 23:06 entityrj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2007 22:58 entityrj wrote:
On April 19 2007 22:54 Carnac wrote:
still tough way to go for stork though

pvz on arkanoid HARD

and then if he loses pvt on HH

ghey

I hope GG goes for an "early" win, if he finds himself trying to counter sair/reaver with queens and ensnare, devourers, defilers with plague, mutualisks and hydra's trying to chase those things down, games already lost for him.

P have recently been easily giving Z major headaches on this map, contrary to the map stats.

First time worth quoting myself, THANK YOU GG, sorry to Stork fans but the rest of us don't enjoy watching that shiznit. Harder to do than to say, but GG played that to perfection, beautiful scourge micro.


Or crappy sair micro
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 19 2007 14:07 GMT
#163
Dongrae vs GF now?
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entityrj
Profile Joined March 2007
United States185 Posts
April 19 2007 14:08 GMT
#164
On April 19 2007 23:06 Aphelion02 wrote:
Exact same thing happened to Free vs Yellow[arnc] on this map. PvZ looks really fucking hard on this map, everything the zerg does is pretty much impossible to scout.

Actually, that game was nothing like this! are you sure you're remembering that one correctly lol? The end result is the same but how they got there... jesus
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AlexanderTheGreat
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada521 Posts
April 19 2007 14:08 GMT
#165
stork really needed to get adequate amount of cannons to counter a fast rush
There is nothing impossible to him who will try
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 19 2007 14:09 GMT
#166
I can't believe Stork never came up against fast mutal in his games, though.

It was, I suppose, in part to his terrible sair micro [5 sairs to 10 scourges] that lost him the game.

but also, his build was badly timed against fast muta
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AlexanderTheGreat
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada521 Posts
April 19 2007 14:09 GMT
#167
and why did he have all of his important tech builings in the middle of his base with one pylon supporting them and no cannons near them....?
There is nothing impossible to him who will try
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 19 2007 14:09 GMT
#168
On April 19 2007 23:08 AlexanderTheGreat wrote:
stork really needed to get adequate amount of cannons to counter a fast rush

I don't think he saw it coming, though. Unavoidable unless you knew what was going on.
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 19 2007 14:10 GMT
#169
On April 19 2007 23:06 Last Romantic wrote:
GGPLAY ADVANCES TO STARLEAGUE

alright, so at least three non-terrans?
4 so far
savior (seeded)
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 19 2007 14:11 GMT
#170
so at most SIX non terrans.

at least TEN terrans

the fuck?

and most likely it'll be 5/11. bad feeling about stork vs GF, which is probably what will come up
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mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 19 2007 14:11 GMT
#171
w00t almost done homework.
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greatmeh
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1964 Posts
April 19 2007 14:12 GMT
#172
i think things would of been to s different had stork killed the overlord he didnt see, he would of killed an overlord, plus he wouldnt of flown across the map with his corsair, keeping it within reasonable distance to help stop the rush
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-19 14:13:50
April 19 2007 14:12 GMT
#173
On April 19 2007 23:11 Last Romantic wrote:
so at most SIX non terrans.

at least TEN terrans

the fuck?

and most likely it'll be 5/11. bad feeling about stork vs GF, which is probably what will come up


Well things might change as Z and P have relatively new influences (a lot of people were inspired by boxer; now we have savior + bisu for their respective races.)
EDIT: I meant in the future. Oops.
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NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
April 19 2007 14:13 GMT
#174
With maps the way they were last season we're lucky we even have 4 non terrans at this point.
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Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
April 19 2007 14:13 GMT
#175
On April 19 2007 23:08 entityrj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2007 23:06 Aphelion02 wrote:
Exact same thing happened to Free vs Yellow[arnc] on this map. PvZ looks really fucking hard on this map, everything the zerg does is pretty much impossible to scout.

Actually, that game was nothing like this! are you sure you're remembering that one correctly lol? The end result is the same but how they got there... jesus


I am remembering it correctly. I know Yellow did 1 base lair to muta instead of getting the 2nd gas, but the essential game play was the same.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 19 2007 14:14 GMT
#176
that's not really a fair comparison.

It would be more realistic to compare, say, modern NaDa to sAviOr and Bisu.

BoxeR's influence was in the old times, with GARIMTO and HOTForever.
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27174 Posts
April 19 2007 14:15 GMT
#177
So basically every OSL gameday is going to take 6 hours to finish, because it is all TvT.
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entityrj
Profile Joined March 2007
United States185 Posts
April 19 2007 14:16 GMT
#178
On April 19 2007 23:13 Aphelion02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2007 23:08 entityrj wrote:
On April 19 2007 23:06 Aphelion02 wrote:
Exact same thing happened to Free vs Yellow[arnc] on this map. PvZ looks really fucking hard on this map, everything the zerg does is pretty much impossible to scout.

Actually, that game was nothing like this! are you sure you're remembering that one correctly lol? The end result is the same but how they got there... jesus


I am remembering it correctly. I know Yellow did 1 base lair to muta instead of getting the 2nd gas, but the essential game play was the same.

Hmm... maybe Yarnc and Free met more than once on this map? The one I'm remembering is quite recent, and Free eventually tapped out after like 45 minutes of gameplay.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 19 2007 14:17 GMT
#179
On April 19 2007 23:08 entityrj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2007 23:06 Aphelion02 wrote:
Exact same thing happened to Free vs Yellow[arnc] on this map. PvZ looks really fucking hard on this map, everything the zerg does is pretty much impossible to scout.

Actually, that game was nothing like this! are you sure you're remembering that one correctly lol? The end result is the same but how they got there... jesus


LOLOLOLOLOOLOLOL WHAT ???

I just watched free vs yarnc, and the game progression was literally IDENTICAL.
14 nexus -> gate -> forge core -> stargate -> robo
vs
1 hatch muta with 2nd hatch mining gas

mutas fly in, kill nat nexus, go to the tech area, kill cannon there, and begin to confront the protoss air army with muta scourge. Meanwhile both free and stork were clearing the east nat, warping cannons, and getting nexus in the proper position. Literally identical events in the same exact order.

Literally the only differnece was how free/stork responded to this attack by running from the scourge instead of attacking mutas head-on.

Again, what exactly do you think was different up to this point? becuase that's when the game essentially ended for stork.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 19 2007 14:18 GMT
#180
On April 19 2007 23:14 Last Romantic wrote:
that's not really a fair comparison.

It would be more realistic to compare, say, modern NaDa to sAviOr and Bisu.

BoxeR's influence was in the old times, with GARIMTO and HOTForever.


Yeah what I meant was that boxer's influence was far greater than the other two, so people flocked to play T. Nada is amazing, but T already has its fanbase. P and Z have new stars that, at least for me, have rocked progaming for a bit, and hopefully show the true potential of their races.
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