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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
April 12 2007 20:38 GMT
#541
On April 13 2007 05:25 thedeadhaji wrote:
rofl 4/4

hmm... so you caved
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-12 21:05:13
April 12 2007 20:42 GMT
#542
Arkanoid 1.0 had a 66% TvP record, so yes, it was better for terran players.

Arkanoid 2.0 was stronger for T during the Season 3 of Shinhan Starleague. But that was largely thanks to players like NaDa, iloveOOv, Midas, etc. Nine top level terran players, and only one protoss player, Much[gm].

Obviously, terran would have the better record vs. P, having such a large advantage in Starleague. A single protoss player certainly can't make good percentages against such a large number of terran players.

But, after the initial rounds of 2007, where there were larger numbers of protoss players, PvT has been much higher. Protoss win 2/3 games against Terran this new pre-Starleague season for 2007.

I was merely saying that Reach seemed to have this game, despite Yooi's large resource domination. Having a large economy doesn't really do anything if your army has to squeeze through tight walls while carriers are attacking. Reach, despite being behind in the game economically, had increasing numbers of carriers. And carriers are extremely annoying units on Arkanoid vs goliaths. You don't need great control, just decent moving-shot with carriers.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
April 12 2007 20:43 GMT
#543
convincing play by hero toss! it really looks like he's back in shape. losing to stork pvp is nothing to be ashamed of.

and geez, they were listing 14 terran, 4 zerg, 6 protoss for the next round of OSL qualifiers? plus three terrans and one zerg seeded from previous OSL...

that's horrible, way too many tvts. i much prefer zerg dominance (or protoss, but that might be too much to ask)
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 12 2007 21:03 GMT
#544
WiP, on the same token though, the average protoss player in ODT is much stronger than the average terran player. Every single toss player is experienced and high-skilled, while you cant say the same for the terrans in this round.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 12 2007 21:12 GMT
#545
On April 13 2007 05:43 Polemarch wrote:
convincing play by hero toss! it really looks like he's back in shape. losing to stork pvp is nothing to be ashamed of.


and beating yooi is nothing to be proud of, you cant say he's back in shape after 1 bo3 vs yooi
Terran & Potato Salad.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-12 21:18:43
April 12 2007 21:16 GMT
#546
On April 13 2007 06:03 thedeadhaji wrote:
WiP, on the same token though, the average protoss player in ODT is much stronger than the average terran player. Every single toss player is experienced and high-skilled, while you cant say the same for the terrans in this round.

TERRAN: Midas, Goodfriend, Light, ForGG, Dongrae, Yooi, Hwasin, Sea.Up, iloveOOv, FBH, Sea[Shield], Xellos, Bifrost, JiHyun, Darkelf, Shine

PROTOSS: AnyTime, Much, Bisu, Pusan, free, Jangbi, Kingdom, Reach, Stork

Now, try to tell me with a straight face that the protoss lineup is stronger than the terran lineup.

The only players who are currently active in Starleague for protoss is AnyTime, Much, and Bisu.
Pusan, Kingdom, Reach, and Stork have been missing in action for a long time...

However, FBH, iloveOOv, Sea.Up, Hwasin, Midas, Light, Xellos, Bifrost, and Sea[shield] have all been in Starleagues these last Shinhan seasons. Sure, there are a couple terran players who don't have big famous names as the protoss players, but they certainly have proved themselves to be good as of NOW. Some of those protoss are have beens who've struggled up to this point without having any time under the television cameras (IE: Stork, Reach, Kingdom, PuSan).
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 12 2007 21:43 GMT
#547
jihyun is zerg?
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 12 2007 21:54 GMT
#548
Oh man, Yooi is so bad.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-12 23:51:16
April 12 2007 23:49 GMT
#549
Full terran lineup

Midas[gm] T (Jun Sang Wook)
GoodFrienD T ( Lee Byung Min)
Light[Alive] T (Lee Jae Ho)
fOrGG T (Park Ji Soo)
dOnGraE T (Lee Hak Ju)
Yooi T (Han Seung Yup)
Hwasin T (Jin Yeong Su)
Sea.Up T (Shin Hee Seung)
iloveoov T (Choi Yun Sung)
FireBatHero T (Lee Sung Eun)
Lomo[fOu] T (Son Jooheung)
HiyA[fOu] T (Goo Sunghoon)
Sea[Shield] T (Yum Bosung)
XellOs[yG] T (Seo Jihoon)
Bifrost T (Won Jongsuh)
TheManiaMST T (Joo Hyunjoon)
Hery[Hyo] T (Kim Yoonhwan)
O.oc T (Kim Donggun)
Lee Youngho T
DArKeLf[S.siR] T (Kim Sunggi)
FreeDom.werra T (Jang Yongsuk)
Shine[Name] T (Ahn Sangwon)

<hr>

Would you categorize these 13 terrans below as having a strong TvP? Becuase I would have a hard time doing so. Of these 13, I would say that Darkelf, Hiya and TheMania are the strongest, and we didn't know at the time how TheMania would respond to TV-pressure. So that's 13 out of 22 terrans that have some question marks over their heads.

dOnGraE T (Lee Hak Ju)
Yooi T (Han Seung Yup)
Hwasin T (Jin Yeong Su)
Lomo[fOu] T (Son Jooheung)
HiyA[fOu] T (Goo Sunghoon)
TheManiaMST T (Joo Hyunjoon)
Hery[Hyo] T (Kim Yoonhwan)
O.oc T (Kim Donggun)
Lee Youngho T
DArKeLf[S.siR] T (Kim Sunggi)
FreeDom.werra T (Jang Yongsuk)
Shine[Name] T (Ahn Sangwon)
Xellos <- when's the last time we saw convincingly strong play from him TT_TT

<hr>

Pusan, Reach and Stork are definitely suspect, but Kingdom showed a strong PvT during prelims to suggest that he is approaching decent form again, and Jangbi played well in PSL as well, before crumbling to TV pressume yesterday.

And even though these 3 tosses have been missing for a while, they have nonetheless "done it" before and are used to on-stage gameplay.

In all honesty I still think the terran lineup has many more holes compared to the protoss lineup for this ODT.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 13 2007 00:43 GMT
#550
Just watched the games, and all I can say is...

MANTOSS!!! He returns to rock your faces!
ModeratorTL VOD legends: Live2Win, hasuprotoss, Cadical, rinizim, Mani, thedeadhaji, Kennigit, SonuvBob, yakii, fw, pheer, CDRdude, pholon, Uraeus, zatic, baezzi. The contributors make this site what it is. *Props to FakeSteve for respecting the guitar gods*
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20663 Posts
April 13 2007 00:59 GMT
#551
On April 13 2007 09:43 ManaBlue wrote:
Just watched the games, and all I can say is...

MANTOSS!!! He returns to rock your faces!



YAHHHHHH I BELIEVE~

round of 24 next, he's just two wins away from StarLeague...
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20663 Posts
April 13 2007 01:04 GMT
#552
On April 13 2007 00:50 Da_PlayerX wrote:
HongJinHo - japanese legend aka [NC]..Yell0w, aka KTF_Yell0w
one of the players i will always like

edit:japanesse>japanese
(i am almost sure he is from Japan, pls correct me)


haha Jinho's from Daejeon, South Korea.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
April 13 2007 01:16 GMT
#553
go reach, i believe ...!
L O V E Y O U
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
April 13 2007 02:31 GMT
#554
does it means that chojja is out of the next OSL because of his today loss?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 13 2007 02:45 GMT
#555
my liquibet went to hell. fuck xells and chojja never voting for them EVER.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
KizZBG
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 13 2007 02:56 GMT
#556
Pics:

http://www.fighterforum.com/newsphoto/news_photo_read.asp?page=1&cat=PHO&idx=1985
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 13 2007 03:20 GMT
#557
[image loading]


I bet keke's jealous of that facial hair.

Do you think he's planning to make a windmill out of them in a few years?
Administrator
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-13 04:26:32
April 13 2007 03:59 GMT
#558
Protoss Lineup in ODT (highlighted the best ones)
Anytime[gm] (Oh YongJong)
Much[gm] (Bak YoungMin)
Bisu[Shield] (Kim TaekYong)

PuSan[S.G] (Bak Jiho)
free[gm] (Yoon YongTae)
Dream.t)Jangbi (Hu YoungMu)
Kingdom (Bak YongWook)
Ever)TT (Bak SungHoon)
[Oops]Reach (Bak JungSuk)
teSteR..[gm] (Seo KiSoo)
stork[gm] (Song ByungKu)


Now, for TvP in this ODT:
1. Up.Magic (T) > PuSan (P)
2. Justin (T) > tester..[gm] (P)
3. ForGG (T) > Kingdom (P)
4. By.Flash (T) > Ever)P(TT (P)

The ONLY protoss to win against terran this ODT was Reach, who beat Yooi.

Jangbi and Kingdom both lost already in the ODT. Almost all of the terrans are left.

Only 8 terrans have lost. And 5/8 of those losses come from other terrans:
Xellos [to GoodFriend (T)]
Yooi
FreeDom
o.oc
TheMania [to Midas (T)]
Hery [to Dongrae (T)]
Shine [to Light (T)]
Darkelf [to FBH (T)]


Players who have thus survived ODT:
Midas[gm] T (Jun Sang Wook)
GoodFrienD T ( Lee Byung Min)
Light[Alive] T (Lee Jae Ho)
fOrGG T (Park Ji Soo)
dOnGraE T (Lee Hak Ju)
Hwasin T (Jin Yeong Su)
Sea.Up T (Shin Hee Seung)
iloveoov T (Choi Yun Sung)

Lomo[fOu] T (Son Jooheung)
HiyA[fOu] T (Goo Sunghoon)
Sea[Shield] T (Yum Bosung)
Bifrost/Justin T (Won Jongsuh)

Lee Youngho T

Anytime[gm] (Oh YongJong)
Much[gm] (Bak YoungMin)
Bisu[Shield] (Kim TaekYong)
free[gm] (Yoon YongTae)

[Oops]Reach (Bak JungSuk)
stork[gm] (Song ByungKu)

There are just too many Terran all-stars in that surviving list. The two top terrans from SKT1, STX SouL's best player, eStro's best player, the #2 and #3 players from MBCGame Heroes, #1 and #2 terrans from OnGameNet Sparkys.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
April 13 2007 06:30 GMT
#559
098309q8392038 terrans
shit
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
April 13 2007 06:33 GMT
#560
WHERES CASY!?!?!?
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