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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 11:43:09
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#121
On December 20 2016 20:35 usopsama wrote:
Good thing Mind sucks, now Jaedong has a chance to advance.

Huh? Mind just beat last year's ASL runner-up.

Yah, I think JD will probably beat Mind, but it's sure not a gimme.


User was warned for being hilarious
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8710 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#122
On December 20 2016 20:30 usopsama wrote:
[image loading]

ZvP is 1-8. I guess it is now 1-9.


That's a rare sight. :o

On December 20 2016 20:32 Elyvilon wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:24 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:23 Elyvilon wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.

It seemed pretty clear to me that JD didn't know about Best's third; it wasn't hidden, exactly, but it was the normal fourth, right?

More than anything, I was disappointed by Jaedong's Swarms and general Lurker control. They just didn't seem to do much.


Hm yeah, I think he didn't know about it. But that's his fault as well. He had total map control at that point at dozens of lings. Just scout, no?

For sure, but it informs his decision making for the next few minutes. He doesn't think Best has taken his third, so he continues to build up an army, because he reads it as a monster 2 base push, and he has the economy to be clearly economically ahead. Then his control in the battle isn't really up to standards and from that point he's just barely hanging on.


Yeah, I agree and that was probably his thought process. However, a simple scout would have been easy and I see no reason why he would need to "read" anything if he just could send out a scout and confirm.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12058 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#123
BeSt yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!
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tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
December 20 2016 11:39 GMT
#124
Best looking really strong
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
December 20 2016 11:39 GMT
#125
what a beast, DO JAE WOOK
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8710 Posts
December 20 2016 11:39 GMT
#126
"I saw only 3 factories. That's so greedy and that made me angry." Hahaha
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
December 20 2016 11:39 GMT
#127
The final matchup will be Mind vs Sharp again!
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2016 11:40 GMT
#128
On December 20 2016 20:38 4Servy wrote:
everything mind did made no sense to me

he was so adamant on taking this third with only three tanks at the end. Guess he felt that he was in that much of a disadvantage. Odd game though his second drop was decent, first wasn't lol but Best was ready.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 11:41:01
December 20 2016 11:40 GMT
#129
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.


User was warned for being hilarious
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8710 Posts
December 20 2016 11:42 GMT
#130
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.




Bisu.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2016 11:42 GMT
#131
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 20 2016 11:42 GMT
#132
On December 20 2016 20:42 Miragee wrote:
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On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.




Bisu.


I second this.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8710 Posts
December 20 2016 11:43 GMT
#133
On December 20 2016 20:42 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.


Yeah agreed. If Jaedong had shown the army control he showed against Mong in the Ro24 he probably would have won the game anyways.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 20 2016 11:44 GMT
#134
On December 20 2016 20:43 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:42 BigFan wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.


Yeah agreed. If Jaedong had shown the army control he showed against Mong in the Ro24 he probably would have won the game anyways.

or you know the army control and lategame zvp that was beating bisu himself the other day
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2016 11:45 GMT
#135
On December 20 2016 20:43 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:42 BigFan wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.


Yeah agreed. If Jaedong had shown the army control he showed against Mong in the Ro24 he probably would have won the game anyways.

might've needed a bit better imo but yes, his late game was far off. Also, he scouted best's third when he moved probes over and his ling followed one then died to a cannon but he chose to ignore it for some reason.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7171 Posts
December 20 2016 11:46 GMT
#136
On December 20 2016 20:45 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:43 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:42 BigFan wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.


Yeah agreed. If Jaedong had shown the army control he showed against Mong in the Ro24 he probably would have won the game anyways.

might've needed a bit better imo but yes, his late game was far off. Also, he scouted best's third when he moved probes over and his ling followed one then died to a cannon but he chose to ignore it for some reason.

ok,he scout the third,and what can he do about it ?didnt u see Best army ?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2016 11:46 GMT
#137
Let's go Jaedong!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11821 Posts
December 20 2016 11:46 GMT
#138
How did Mind beat Sharp?
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
December 20 2016 11:47 GMT
#139
On December 20 2016 20:46 c3rberUs wrote:
How did Mind beat Sharp?


By playing better TvT overall
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7171 Posts
December 20 2016 11:47 GMT
#140
On December 20 2016 20:46 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:45 BigFan wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:43 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:42 BigFan wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:40 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:39 tanngard wrote:
Best looking really strong

Scary strong.

I'm starting to wonder who can possibly stop him, aside from Stork and Flash.



Nah not scary enough imo. Jaedong did a bad job of pressuring in their game today and Mind was too focused on taking a third with not enough defense.


Yeah agreed. If Jaedong had shown the army control he showed against Mong in the Ro24 he probably would have won the game anyways.

might've needed a bit better imo but yes, his late game was far off. Also, he scouted best's third when he moved probes over and his ling followed one then died to a cannon but he chose to ignore it for some reason.

ok,he scout the third,and what can he do about it ?didnt u see Best army ?

best could have made double expand,im surprised he didnt.
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