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LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
December 20 2016 11:20 GMT
#101
I thought the Tyrant said he'd work on his control after his last game. Guess it's a shame he didn't go Mutas. If he's tilted enough I can see him getting KO'd by Sharp.
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 20 2016 11:23 GMT
#102
Jaedong has a higher chance winning against Mind than BeSt. Let's hope BeSt doesn't lose against Mind.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 20 2016 11:23 GMT
#103
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.

It seemed pretty clear to me that JD didn't know about Best's third; it wasn't hidden, exactly, but it was the normal fourth, right?

More than anything, I was disappointed by Jaedong's Swarms and general Lurker control. They just didn't seem to do much.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8660 Posts
December 20 2016 11:24 GMT
#104
On December 20 2016 20:23 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.

It seemed pretty clear to me that JD didn't know about Best's third; it wasn't hidden, exactly, but it was the normal fourth, right?

More than anything, I was disappointed by Jaedong's Swarms and general Lurker control. They just didn't seem to do much.


Hm yeah, I think he didn't know about it. But that's his fault as well. He had total map control at that point at dozens of lings. Just scout, no?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-20 11:31:15
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#105
[image loading]

ZvP is 1-8. I guess it is now 1-9.
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
December 20 2016 11:31 GMT
#106
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.


Yeah, good point. I got quite nervous after I saw no more aggression.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#107
On December 20 2016 20:24 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:23 Elyvilon wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.

It seemed pretty clear to me that JD didn't know about Best's third; it wasn't hidden, exactly, but it was the normal fourth, right?

More than anything, I was disappointed by Jaedong's Swarms and general Lurker control. They just didn't seem to do much.


Hm yeah, I think he didn't know about it. But that's his fault as well. He had total map control at that point at dozens of lings. Just scout, no?

For sure, but it informs his decision making for the next few minutes. He doesn't think Best has taken his third, so he continues to build up an army, because he reads it as a monster 2 base push, and he has the economy to be clearly economically ahead. Then his control in the battle isn't really up to standards and from that point he's just barely hanging on.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
December 20 2016 11:32 GMT
#108
I love BW.

It just needs to be said out loud sometimes
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6872 Posts
December 20 2016 11:33 GMT
#109
best is a real contender to win ASL.finally in 2017 the dream is real
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24603 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#110
that mine drag O.o
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#111
Good thing Mind sucks, now Jaedong has a chance to advance.
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#112
fuck yeah best
the courage to be a lazy bum
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#113
gg wow
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
December 20 2016 11:36 GMT
#114
ggs
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8660 Posts
December 20 2016 11:36 GMT
#115
That was a stomp, wow Best. Dominating as fuck.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
December 20 2016 11:37 GMT
#116
best in first huh, not that it wasn't completely possible but god damn it Jaedong ;;
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
neilmellor
Profile Joined December 2010
China49 Posts
December 20 2016 11:37 GMT
#117
On December 20 2016 20:32 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:24 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:23 Elyvilon wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:19 Miragee wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:16 coolprogrammingstuff wrote:
I thought he was ahead early game, but not as much so as was stated. He was sloppy as fuck late game, though, and it doesn't look like himself. His ling control early game still incredible as it once was, but not nearly as great, decisive, aggressive and great multitasking late-game.


JD had a much much bigger army at the time his 4th expansion went up. Best just expanded as well and JD did nothing about it, which was very strange. He could have done so much.

I agree with your assessment of his late game sloppiness.

It seemed pretty clear to me that JD didn't know about Best's third; it wasn't hidden, exactly, but it was the normal fourth, right?

More than anything, I was disappointed by Jaedong's Swarms and general Lurker control. They just didn't seem to do much.


Hm yeah, I think he didn't know about it. But that's his fault as well. He had total map control at that point at dozens of lings. Just scout, no?

For sure, but it informs his decision making for the next few minutes. He doesn't think Best has taken his third, so he continues to build up an army, because he reads it as a monster 2 base push, and he has the economy to be clearly economically ahead. Then his control in the battle isn't really up to standards and from that point he's just barely hanging on.


It is quite strange that Jaedong scouted all the map except the 3rd base from best……he must have misread the situation
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6872 Posts
December 20 2016 11:37 GMT
#118
On December 20 2016 20:35 usopsama wrote:
Good thing Mind sucks, now Jaedong has a chance to advance.

chance ? jaedong will out 0-2 and even if win vs SHarp that i doubt,winning vs Mind ? xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#119
everything mind did made no sense to me
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19343 Posts
December 20 2016 11:38 GMT
#120
Jaedong has a huge battle ahead of him.
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